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No mention of the price in the article? I assume it's in the video, but that would be handy in the copy.

Edit: Has the price not been announced yet?

Anyway - I want one. I have zero need for one, but I want one.
$1200 and UP‼️

That is insane.


I was considering one, was about to see if I could flash alternate OSes on it, so it couldn't be artificially obseleted like Apple products...

but at that price they can keep it 😂
 
It mainly comes down to iOS/iPadOS vs Android. It's like comparing Apples (pun intended) and oranges. Hardware comparisons without mentioning how well the underlying OS is making use of it isn't very useful.
The only real world functional difference between Android and iOS, is that only one of them has iMessage.

If you live in a place where all your friends are using iMessage, you're just stuck with Apple unless you want to be the weird green bubble. Most leftist cities in the US are almost all iMessage people. Rightists tend a little more towards Android, but that's small towns and rural people, and not where most people live.
 
so it is possible!:
OLED in iPad size screen
Touch ID under display
Face ID in both orientations
Camera on both orientations
Air commands with a “pencil”.
What are you waiting Apple????
It has been technically possible since a few years. Apple simply doesn’t want to shoot out all features at once, otherwise they would run out of features to present on upcoming iPads.

Planned limitations!
 
Weird that you don’t mention a really obvious downside… the notch in landscape makes it really difficult to use in portrait. On a phone this might be acceptable (it’s commonly used in landscape for single purposes like games or videos). But on a tablet, that most people will use half of the time or more on portrait, it doesn’t make any sense.
 
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The display adjustments on the Galaxy Tab 8 Ultra are awful. Once you discover Accessibility > Display & Text Size > Color Filters > Color Tint, on the iPad you will see just how much better the iPad display can be. Galaxy devices cannot display the color white very well at all. You end up with a greenish tone.

Lack of 5g is a big negative too!
 
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Weird that you don’t mention a really obvious downside… the notch in landscape makes it really difficult to use in portrait. On a phone this might be acceptable (it’s commonly used in landscape for single purposes like games or videos). But on a tablet, that most people will use half of the time or more on portrait, it doesn’t make any sense.
Probably because it’s coming to the iPad, too. Why badmouth something that will join the family?! 🤣

The iPhone got a moronic notch/island.
The MacBooks got a moronic notch.
It’s predestined that the iPad the same moronic notch/island, thinner bezels was already rumored.

Come to the dark side of the notch!
 
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so it is possible!:
OLED in iPad size screen
Touch ID under display
Face ID in both orientations
Camera on both orientations
Air commands with a “pencil”.
What are you waiting Apple????
For some things they’re waiting, i.e. for an OLED display in a tablet to match the quality of miniLED. For some others, not (it doesn’t make sense to have two biometric login options). A list of features doesn’t define how good a product is.
 
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Do they still suffer massively with jelly scrolling? I had a Samsung tablet from work for a short period (returned as I didn’t use it ) and the jelly scrolling used to make me feel sick.
 
Touchscreen tablets are empty shells without the software to make them sing and unfortunately for Android the app parity gap gets larger every year.

Without apps like Procreate, Pixelmator, Shapr3D, Final Cut, Ulysses, Logic or Swift Playgrounds name but a few all Samsung have built is a giant phone.

That’s not to knock the obviously capable hardware but if they’re building it to get stuff done there isn’t anything to actually do.
 
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I have the 12.9" M2 iPad Pro. After watching your video I have 0 interest in the Samsung tablet.

I don't like the screen aspect ratio for the Samsung. It looks like it's designed to primarily operate with the keyboard like a laptop.

You use the keyboard with your iPad; 98%. You have little experience using the Pencil. Occasionally you grab it to draw some lines.

I don't use a keyboard. I use the Pencil for almost everything. Editing, picking, writing, scrolling, screen shots, using apps,...swipe keyboard is much better using the Pencil to choose letters.

It's quite obvious the Samsung doesn't have Hover. Hover is great on my iPad.

FaceID is much better than finger print.

The most significant complaint I have using the Pencil+iPad is it should be much easier to switch between small and full size keyboard. If I touch the screen with my finger it should open the large keyboard. If I touch the screen with the Pencil the small keyboard opens.

If you need a keyboard and mouse for extended typing on the iPad use continuity.
I like the screen aspect ratio which is better for entertainment which seems to be half of what most people do with their tablets.

Dan mentioned the notch but he failed to criticize Apple for using a massive notch in the MacBooks.

Apple’s decision to use a notch appears to be nothing but design language. Which makes it sickening to me that I have to look at the damned thing all the time just so Apple can let people know this is a MacBook. Like they didn’t know to begin with.

Can’t stand anything disrupting my experience with my display. Not even if the notch has FaceID. I will take a larger bezel for symmetry over a notch if Apple must move the camera to the top in landscape mode.

Overall, I think Android tablets suck for the software, and Apple wins big on keyboard, trackpad for external keyboard and definitely the Apple Pencil even costing $140 more. I have had the Samsung S6 and S8 and I much prefer the display technology and aspect ratios on them but nothing else.

Android just doesn’t have the tablet game figured out. My Android Nothing Phone 1 is amazing in design language and software. The only thing it lacks is the ecosystem that Apple provides. Apple better keep integrating the ecosystem as it’s the real way they win with iPhones by making massive margins on iPhones and services due to the ecosystem.
 
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Dan mentioned the notch but he failed to criticize Apple for using a massive notch in the MacBooks.

It was worded a bit strange, but if you check the video again the complain wasn’t about the notch itself but rather the cameras in the notch which aren’t as good as the ones on the iPad for face recognition in low light situations etc.
 
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There's no Apple Pencil, but Samsung's tablets use the S-Pen, which is feature rich and comparable to Apple Pencil (plus it's included in the price). Latency is about the same...
I'd be interested to hear what "about the same" means from a professional artist using the devices to draw. Imperceptibly different? Maybe not quite as good but very very close? Or "it seems fine but I just scribble occasionally and don't actually care that much"?

The artist I work with, who uses an iPad Pro as their primary work machine, is very sensitive to latency and lag, and its one of the reasons they like the iPad Pro + Pencil as a tool. If the S-Pen and current-model Galaxy Tabs have fixed some of the substantial latency problems Android had in the past, that'd be very useful information.

(I'll add that I'm not a professional artist, so even with both in hand might not be sensitive enough to evaluate this accurately. Although every time I end up using someone else's Android phone it always feels kind of subtly laggy to me, and it surprises me that they apparently haven't gotten that worked out.)
 
It was worded a bit strange, but if you check the video again the complain wasn’t about the notch itself but rather the cameras in the notch which aren’t as good as the ones on the iPad for face recognition in low light situations etc.
I realized that. The point I make is more there’s a notch on the S9 but not the iPad Pro. And I surely don’t want to see a notch on the iPad Pro ever. The MacBook notches are a worse design and user sin to me than the iPhone notches were. I hate notches and dynamic island crap. They’re terrible to look at. Terrible to use as a design language so people know you’re using a MacBook and iPhone. And for the MacBook there’s absolutely zero reason to have that notch. I hate it. I would happily take symmetry and nothing ruining my display with a slightly larger bezel than notches and ridiculous islands solely made so people who don’t own the iPhone or MacBook know we are using an iPhone or MacBook.

I hate the lack of a physical SIM tray so much. But even then, it doesn’t even touch the hatred I have for these notches as design language. Heck, I would prefer to attach my iPhone to the top of the MacBook Pro and use the iPhone camera and not even have one on the MacBooks over what we have now. Disgusted in Apple’s lack of taste in design.
 
I realized that. The point I make is more there’s a notch on the S9 but not the iPad Pro. And I surely don’t want to see a notch on the iPad Pro ever. The MacBook notches are a worse design and user sin to me than the iPhone notches were. I hate notches and dynamic island crap. They’re terrible to look at. Terrible to use as a design language so people know you’re using a MacBook and iPhone. And for the MacBook there’s absolutely zero reason to have that notch. I hate it. I would happily take symmetry and nothing ruining my display with a slightly larger bezel than notches and ridiculous islands solely made so people who don’t own the iPhone or MacBook know we are using an iPhone or MacBook.

I agree. But unfortunately, all this talk about reducing iPad bezel size, going to horizontal camera, and adding an OLED option means a notch or dynamic island is coming to the iPad very soon.

Apple fulfills our wishes like the monkey’s paw. They add a couple of features we want and then one big one nobody wants.
 
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everybody who got too much money should have his bank apps on android. my boss reasently lost bec of that very much money. cops say - no one can investigate enough to get it back.
 
Practically zero apps optimised for andy dandy tablets.

Look at those icons too. Does Samsung design everything for kids?
Nobody's perfect. I even would say, that their hardware is very good. But common - that Android thing is common knowledge. Even worse Linux versions are a better Joyce...
 
No. Can't have anything but my confirmation bias confirmed. Anything outside my narrow parameters does not count.

An adult conversation about what makes the S9 ultra sound appealing to some seems to be impossible without tribal wars. It is so ridiculous and redundant that it is ridiculous how redundant the tribal war camps are.

People use multiple platforms at the same time in the same house. We are past picking sides and just pick what works within our budget.

There is nothing inherently superior about either Android or iOS and if I wanted a tablet that was the most useful in all situations then it would be a surface Pro with Windows.
 
At the end of the day I’m an iPad guy because of the software. The hardware of the S9 series of tablets is by nearly every measure superior. I also disagree with the generic statement regarding “usability.” The S9 series is going to allow you to use your tablet in a much more “laptop-esq” way when docked than iPadOS. That is a flagship qualm of many iPad Pro users. You know the (valid) complaint; “why even bother putting the M-series chips in the thing if you can’t use them?” We don’t even have bog standard display extension on our iPads which have silicon capabble of driving two 4K displays. Its absurd. If Android had the stable of apps that iPad has, I’d switch in a minute.
 
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Android on a tablet... 🤣
Yeah! Who wants peripherals that just work and proper display extension and sensible file management on their $2,000 “Pro” tablet.

I prefer iPad as well, but Apple would make a lot of iPad Pro users happy if they “borrowed” a little from Android on tablets. At least as far as productivity applications are concerned.
 
Yeah! Who wants peripherals that just work and proper display extension and sensible file management on their $2,000 “Pro” tablet.

I prefer iPad as well, but Apple would make a lot of iPad Pro users happy if they “borrowed” a little from Android on tablets. At least as far as productivity applications are concerned.
peripherals on ipad? it's not made for that. it is possible, but any mac makes more sense for any of that wishes.
 
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