I didn't say it was complicated to use.Nothing complicated about using touch to drag an app from the dock next to the current app and using the middle handle to resize imo. It's faster and easier than on desktop. The multitasking dots are useless though. I wish Apple let us hide those.
I meant that switching back and forth would be much more complicated in comparison to the amount of work of splitting the screen in two. Especially when you’re taking notes or copying things back and forth it would take many more steps if you’re only using full screen apps.I didn't say it was complicated to use.
disagreed considering it's practically the same amount of the constant resizing of width of the app because each app is fighting for more space. often apps like discord break from the constant resizing too.I meant that switching back and forth would be much more complicated in comparison to the amount of work of splitting the screen in two. Especially when you’re taking notes or copying things back and forth it would take many more steps if you’re only using full screen apps.
None, they create more problems than they solve… 😉What problem do foldable phones solve? Serious question.
Specifically with the Samsung Folds they solve the following:
The mobile power user that needs ultra mobility without the need to carry a laptop yet still be connected to corporate information and workspaces and documentation/data with the flexibility to present and manage that data with their team or the business while travelling.
The OS allows for split screen multi-tasking on the outer display: imagine playing a voicemail or video in another language and running translation at the same time. I’ve tried this on iOS 14-16 and still currently nobody can do this! Native apps including voice memo cannot be done!
Internally the OS allows for 3 split screen apps to run simultaneously (some may be for input and output translation while an the for reference) + 1 pop up app on top of them or to bring off tot he side off screen until you need it.
Specifically I queue to Samsung is a proper desktop os experience called Dex. Android allows you to run mobile versions of Microsoft office while the desktop allows desktop versions that can merge with your M365 license. (I’m not certain if add-ins can be run in Excel I’ll know in about a week when I get my S23 to test). Also imagine connecting to corporate space securely using Citrix Viewer and able to run 2 instances of such connection simultaneously!
This effort or paradigm, the purpose of such a device, was first led by the Nokia Communicators and Ericsson as well but Ericsson pretty much gave up earlier on.
Thai generation of devices has a LOT of uptake and about 5 competitors that is continually growing so the demand is significantly there. Apple I don’t think will do this because it’ll seriously affect their casual iPad user sales and potential very light use casual MacBook Air user. Notice that the MacBOok is completely gone from their lineup for some time.
In your pocket?I appreciate the offer, but I already have an iPad.
Your post is brief but lacking any sense. You'd have a point if you could carry iPad in the pocket.Too many words. You should work on writing with brevity.
Folding phones are a solution looking for a problem. It's a marketing gimmick, and every single unit has a crease going down the screen. It's classically bad design that has no place for discussion or acknolwedgement on an apple forum.
Maybe our uses cases are different but I've never really needed to constantly resize with the regular split screen. Perhaps you are talking about stage manager?disagreed considering it's practically the same amount of the constant resizing of width of the app because each app is fighting for more space. often apps like discord break from the constant resizing too.
it's just not practical.
If Apple released this tech, it would eat into their sales, because then you'd have an iPad and an iPhone in one.
Four years into laptops, people knew what benefits they provided.Four years into PCs (ca. 1980), many people still weren't sure if they were going to be a useful product.
Four years into PDAs, people knew what benefits they provide.Four years into PDAs (ca. 1997), they were still kind of a niche tech demo.
Four years into VR glasses, people know what benefits they provide.Four years into VR glasses (ca. 1999), they were still pretty terrible.
My comment had nothing to do with if anyone thinks they are good, or personally wants one, just that it's weird to still be asking what benefit folding phones provide.Sometimes, tech takes much longer than four years to actually become good. The jury's out on whether that will ever happen for foldable phones.
No I actually mean split view.Maybe our uses cases are different but I've never really needed to constantly resize with the regular split screen. Perhaps you are talking about stage manager?
Why would I want one in my pocket, especially a large screen with a horrid crease going down the center?In your pocket?
You bring up many valid points. That said, there's no reason that apps can't be adjusted to take advantage of the extra screen space (wouldn't be the first time, and certainly wouldn't be the last either). Furthermore, not every app has to take advantage of the extra width.Maybe.
There will be a lot of apps (games) which don't support the aspect ratio at all, so your unfolded phone will likely be black on one side.
It isn't great for video - a 16:9-ish aspect ratio phone can't unfold once into a 16:9-ish aspect ratio tablet. You either have a tablet which has a lot of block bars when watching movies, or a phone with a relatively square body that would have difficulty running apps which require e.g. keyboard input.
Unfolding would give you double the screen space. Meanwhile, an iPad 10th gen has 3.5x the screen space over an iPhone 14.
You are basically unfolding a phone into a larger phone, and have a lot of software complexities with weird screen sizes, a new mechanical failure point, and double the thickness in your pocket to show for it.
It would not be an iPhone and iPad in one. At best it would be an iPhone and iPad Mini cut off at the knees in one. No one would use a folding iPhone instead of an iPad. A folding iPhone would be closer to a square screen, which is nothing like the iPad.If Apple released this tech, it would eat into their sales, because then you'd have an iPad and an iPhone in one. And although Steve Jobs said cannibalization was a good problem to have, somehow I don't feel the current leadership shares his view.
You still don't get it. When you fold large screen it becomes small.Why would I want one in my pocket, especially a large screen with a horrid crease going down the center?
Ya, good luck with your smoogle spyware.
Oh please, talk about the kettle calling the pot black (or whateva that phrase is). You sound very offended and defensive. How about ppl just don’t like smoogle and their creepy spying ways, for one?
At least we don’t make commercial afta commercial saying how lame the otha side is, we keep it movin with our awesome iPhones and that’s that.
Smoogle is so fetch....Also, (I'm aiming for a Mean Girls movie quote when I say): Stop trying to make smoogle happen. It's never going to happen. 😉
Where's the innovation of foldable phones, apart from the engineering aspect? Does it bring any real value to the user?You’re hilarious. Where's the innovation on Apple's side? Dynamic Island? Last revolutionary iPhone was X, after that iterative af. People got bored, I am one of those. I see a lot of reddit posts left iPhone for Foldable. Also, people outside US don't rely on iMessage at all, they don't have green bubble scare, and it's not that hard to switch.
It's easy to answer both questions, smaller in your pocket, bigger screen when you need it.Where's the innovation of foldable phones, apart from the engineering aspect? Does it bring any real value to the user?
People got bored, I am one of those.
YesWhere's the innovation of foldable phones, apart from the engineering aspect? Does it bring any real value to the user?
Excitement sells more to people like me...Maybe product decisions shouldn't be made on whether people are "bored" but whether the product solves a problem. The iPhone is still pretty damn good in that respect.