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Unfortunately, Samsung is yet another word synonymous to uselessness.
 
Nothing complicated about using touch to drag an app from the dock next to the current app and using the middle handle to resize imo. It's faster and easier than on desktop. The multitasking dots are useless though. I wish Apple let us hide those.
I didn't say it was complicated to use.
 
I didn't say it was complicated to use.
I meant that switching back and forth would be much more complicated in comparison to the amount of work of splitting the screen in two. Especially when you’re taking notes or copying things back and forth it would take many more steps if you’re only using full screen apps.
 
I meant that switching back and forth would be much more complicated in comparison to the amount of work of splitting the screen in two. Especially when you’re taking notes or copying things back and forth it would take many more steps if you’re only using full screen apps.
disagreed considering it's practically the same amount of the constant resizing of width of the app because each app is fighting for more space. often apps like discord break from the constant resizing too.

it's just not practical.
 
Specifically with the Samsung Folds they solve the following:

The mobile power user that needs ultra mobility without the need to carry a laptop yet still be connected to corporate information and workspaces and documentation/data with the flexibility to present and manage that data with their team or the business while travelling.

The OS allows for split screen multi-tasking on the outer display: imagine playing a voicemail or video in another language and running translation at the same time. I’ve tried this on iOS 14-16 and still currently nobody can do this! Native apps including voice memo cannot be done!

Internally the OS allows for 3 split screen apps to run simultaneously (some may be for input and output translation while an the for reference) + 1 pop up app on top of them or to bring off tot he side off screen until you need it.

Specifically I queue to Samsung is a proper desktop os experience called Dex. Android allows you to run mobile versions of Microsoft office while the desktop allows desktop versions that can merge with your M365 license. (I’m not certain if add-ins can be run in Excel I’ll know in about a week when I get my S23 to test). Also imagine connecting to corporate space securely using Citrix Viewer and able to run 2 instances of such connection simultaneously!

This effort or paradigm, the purpose of such a device, was first led by the Nokia Communicators and Ericsson as well but Ericsson pretty much gave up earlier on.

Thai generation of devices has a LOT of uptake and about 5 competitors that is continually growing so the demand is significantly there. Apple I don’t think will do this because it’ll seriously affect their casual iPad user sales and potential very light use casual MacBook Air user. Notice that the MacBOok is completely gone from their lineup for some time.

Too many words. You should work on writing with brevity.

Folding phones are a solution looking for a problem. It's a marketing gimmick, and every single unit has a crease going down the screen. It's classically bad design that has no place for discussion or acknolwedgement on an apple forum.
 
Too many words. You should work on writing with brevity.

Folding phones are a solution looking for a problem. It's a marketing gimmick, and every single unit has a crease going down the screen. It's classically bad design that has no place for discussion or acknolwedgement on an apple forum.
Your post is brief but lacking any sense. You'd have a point if you could carry iPad in the pocket.
 
If Apple released this tech, it would eat into their sales, because then you'd have an iPad and an iPhone in one. And although Steve Jobs said cannibalization was a good problem to have, somehow I don't feel the current leadership shares his view.
 
disagreed considering it's practically the same amount of the constant resizing of width of the app because each app is fighting for more space. often apps like discord break from the constant resizing too.

it's just not practical.
Maybe our uses cases are different but I've never really needed to constantly resize with the regular split screen. Perhaps you are talking about stage manager?
 
If Apple released this tech, it would eat into their sales, because then you'd have an iPad and an iPhone in one.

That’s not why Apple hasn’t done it yet. They’d love to sell you a $1,800 folding iPhone.

The reason they haven’t done it is that foldable technology sucks so far. It would be a bad iPhone and a bad iPad. Apple would much rather you get a good iPhone, good iPad, or both.


 
Four years into PCs (ca. 1980), many people still weren't sure if they were going to be a useful product.
Four years into laptops, people knew what benefits they provided.
Four years into PDAs (ca. 1997), they were still kind of a niche tech demo.
Four years into PDAs, people knew what benefits they provide.
Four years into VR glasses (ca. 1999), they were still pretty terrible.
Four years into VR glasses, people know what benefits they provide.
Sometimes, tech takes much longer than four years to actually become good. The jury's out on whether that will ever happen for foldable phones.
My comment had nothing to do with if anyone thinks they are good, or personally wants one, just that it's weird to still be asking what benefit folding phones provide.
 
Maybe our uses cases are different but I've never really needed to constantly resize with the regular split screen. Perhaps you are talking about stage manager?
No I actually mean split view.

On my iPad, using the most narrow size of window for Discord, you can only get about 2-3 messages on screen, so I typically stretch Discord to be the wider app of the two.

My second app would be something like Safari. Some websites look fine on narrow view, but look at something like PC Gamer where there is lots of ads and screenshots where text makes up maybe about 20-30% of the entire window, I'm scrolling way too much. So I widen the Safari view. But then there might be a lot of messages on Discord coming in so I have to constantly scroll up or widen the Discord view. So I find myself constantly resizing the two windows.

Now I could turn it landscape, but then the keyboard takes up the majority of the screen making it difficult to read new messages as they come in. And thumb typing feels better in portrait.

Far better to just swipe to Safari and swipe back to Discord if needed.
 
Maybe.

There will be a lot of apps (games) which don't support the aspect ratio at all, so your unfolded phone will likely be black on one side.

It isn't great for video - a 16:9-ish aspect ratio phone can't unfold once into a 16:9-ish aspect ratio tablet. You either have a tablet which has a lot of block bars when watching movies, or a phone with a relatively square body that would have difficulty running apps which require e.g. keyboard input.

Unfolding would give you double the screen space. Meanwhile, an iPad 10th gen has 3.5x the screen space over an iPhone 14.

You are basically unfolding a phone into a larger phone, and have a lot of software complexities with weird screen sizes, a new mechanical failure point, and double the thickness in your pocket to show for it.
You bring up many valid points. That said, there's no reason that apps can't be adjusted to take advantage of the extra screen space (wouldn't be the first time, and certainly wouldn't be the last either). Furthermore, not every app has to take advantage of the extra width.

There are many use cases where extra screen space would be very helpful. When I think about the apps I use most - Maps, Mail, Messages, GoodNotes, Banktivity, Gaia GPS, Photos, Anybox, Calendar - all of them would benefit from the extra screen real estate. Multi-tasking would also be a lot nicer on a bigger/wider screen. You could have two full-size apps side by side.

Reading documents would be a lot nicer too. Right now when I read a document on the iPhone, I must choose between a very small full-size view or viewing in landscape with a more readable magnification, but tons of scrolling. With a folding iPhone, I'd have both a more readable magnification and get to see at least half the page.
 
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If Apple released this tech, it would eat into their sales, because then you'd have an iPad and an iPhone in one. And although Steve Jobs said cannibalization was a good problem to have, somehow I don't feel the current leadership shares his view.
It would not be an iPhone and iPad in one. At best it would be an iPhone and iPad Mini cut off at the knees in one. No one would use a folding iPhone instead of an iPad. A folding iPhone would be closer to a square screen, which is nothing like the iPad.
 
Ya, good luck with your smoogle spyware.




Oh please, talk about the kettle calling the pot black (or whateva that phrase is). You sound very offended and defensive. How about ppl just don’t like smoogle and their creepy spying ways, for one?

At least we don’t make commercial afta commercial saying how lame the otha side is, we keep it movin with our awesome iPhones and that’s that.

When you say "we" to whom are you referring? Unless you are personally involved in producing Apple commercials or part of their executive corporate structure then you might be a bit too personally invested in your phone.


Also, (I'm aiming for a Mean Girls movie quote when I say): Stop trying to make smoogle happen. It's never going to happen. 😉
 
You’re hilarious. Where's the innovation on Apple's side? Dynamic Island? Last revolutionary iPhone was X, after that iterative af. People got bored, I am one of those. I see a lot of reddit posts left iPhone for Foldable. Also, people outside US don't rely on iMessage at all, they don't have green bubble scare, and it's not that hard to switch.
Where's the innovation of foldable phones, apart from the engineering aspect? Does it bring any real value to the user?
 
Where's the innovation of foldable phones, apart from the engineering aspect? Does it bring any real value to the user?
It's easy to answer both questions, smaller in your pocket, bigger screen when you need it.

I just got my Flip5 in last night, love it!
 
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Maybe product decisions shouldn't be made on whether people are "bored" but whether the product solves a problem. The iPhone is still pretty damn good in that respect.
Excitement sells more to people like me...

An exciting, new, product that fits with my needs, I'll buy right away, but one that really isn't any different than it's predecessors -- I buy only as a replacement for a failure, and only if I need that functionality. iPhones have had just enough difference between models for me to buy most years, but this year, I just don't see it.

And I'm on a 3 generations old Apple watch too, and I don't see upgrading this year either and probably retiring it and going with a galaxy watch.

I do not like status quo, I'm always looking for a better way...
 
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