He can also do atiflash in CMD on Win 10 if he has to force a flash . Once in Win 10 flashing is easy .
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Sapphire R9 280x
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Ok! I just did the flash with the new ROM file I created yesterday, and it isworking! I have boot screen on the DVI port (lower white one) and also the HDMI port! I am very happy now! Thanks to everyone, and it is a painless process if done according to the instructions.
Thanks again,
Charlie
the Chaplain
this is exactly the card I've spent this days fighting with (SKU 11221-12, Tahiti XTL).
obviously it is a 2nd hand from a gamer PC so I cannot be sure the bios I have is original (it is 015.043.000.006.000000 1100/1500).
My issue is that the card power-on on start and then power-off after the OS/driver is loaded (both original Rom and efi 280X) on DVI port I'm using; then if I unplug and plug in the cable, the card it power-on again and works quite well; just the open CL scores seems low and in Sys info PCI section the 2nd Hamachi entry states driver non installed.
But it is simply no feasible to do it this way on regular basis.
I've spent hours reading without finding the solution for the power-off, at this point I believe better ask for help here.
If somebody can provide a genuine ROM for this card, I'll really appreciate (on my risk; I flashed already about 10 Roms from Techpower, all of them working on old Windows PC, few on MP 5.1).
Thanks
ps
the GPU is powered with dual 6 to 8 pin & dual sata to 6 pin over evga powerlink, so power should be ok
pps
efi rom created from netkas bundle2 (shared by Mikx)
./makerom.sh --efifile=280Xmac.efi --romfile=efiromheader_280X.rom --originalrom=MyRom.rom --devid=6798
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That's the audio part, no driver in OSX. It's normal.
How low?
It means the card is powered on all the time, just lost the DVI connection when driver loaded. Unplug and re-plug force it to re-detect the monitor.
thank you for the fast reply h9..
on geek5 the OCL was 10.800 (efi)/26.300 (orig) compared to 33.000 with HD 7970.
Now I've just run some tests and this changed to 36.700, I don' know why and how.
So: unplug DVI and plug DP cable and the display powered on, both with orig/efi rom
attached 2nd monitor (old apple cinema) on DVI - DP ok, but DVI power on only after re-attached. But after being detected on the next restart it power on by itself.
And in this moment the score changed as well...
The DP has a loose contact so sometime it boot with just Dvi monitor and often is able to power it. Sometimes it power only Dp one, but once logged the Dvi can be activated from settings/detect display
on geek5 the OCL was 10.800 (efi)/26.300 (orig) compared to 33.000 with HD 7970.
Now I've just run some tests and this changed to 36.700, I don' know why and how.
So: unplug DVI and plug DP cable and the display powered on, both with orig/efi rom
attached 2nd monitor (old apple cinema) on DVI - DP ok, but DVI power on only after re-attached. But after being detected on the next restart it power on by itself.
And in this moment the score changed as well...
The DP has a loose contact so sometime it boot with just Dvi monitor and often is able to power it. Sometimes it power only Dp one, but once logged the Dvi can be activated from settings/detect display
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For those who want to flash either a HD 7970 or R9 280X use this 'bundle2'.
Netkas seems to have removed some things from the original bundle notably the 7970.rom I successfully flashed my Sapphire Dual-X 3gb HD 7970 with this 'bundle2'
Apologies to mods - I mistakenly attached the file twice ! Can't see a way to remove the 2nd. one. Aah . . found it . . .removed.
Netkas seems to have removed some things from the original bundle notably the 7970.rom I successfully flashed my Sapphire Dual-X 3gb HD 7970 with this 'bundle2'
Apologies to mods - I mistakenly attached the file twice ! Can't see a way to remove the 2nd. one. Aah . . found it . . .removed.
Strange conclusion:
I don't know how and why, maybe after used the detect displays action 50 times, maybe after have cleaned and remounted the GPU cooler, surely no Rom flashing - anyway now the DVI port is working without any issue, both on start-up and wake (yes, there was the DVI wake up issue too) on both Rooms.
Std ROM - all ports working (DVI 1/2, DP, HDMI)
Efi ROM only 2 ports (DVI 1, DP)
So no adaptor needed, and I can just recommend this as a really good working economic 2nd hand card.
I don't know how and why, maybe after used the detect displays action 50 times, maybe after have cleaned and remounted the GPU cooler, surely no Rom flashing - anyway now the DVI port is working without any issue, both on start-up and wake (yes, there was the DVI wake up issue too) on both Rooms.
Std ROM - all ports working (DVI 1/2, DP, HDMI)
Efi ROM only 2 ports (DVI 1, DP)
So no adaptor needed, and I can just recommend this as a really good working economic 2nd hand card.
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Hi everybody, I am new to these forums. I have one question about the card I got for my Mac Pro.
It's a Radeon Sapphire Toxic R9 280x 3 Gb
My Mac Pro is a 2009 - 4,1 flashed to 5,1
I want to use the card with 3 monitors, 23", 24" and 30", in OS X and in Bootcamp Windows 10.
I did have a red Sapphire HD 7970, that did this. (it died)
I understand that I can flash the R9 280x card to get a boot screen.
But frankly this is beyond me, I've read all the Netkas pages etc and I just don't have enough coding knowledge, or a PC to do this.
So here's the question:
From the reading I've done and the info at -
http://blog.greggant.com/posts/2018/05/07/definitive-mac-pro-upgrade-guide.html
I understand that I can put the card in the Mac 5,1 and though it won't show a boot screen, it will still boot to OS X.
And if I use 'startup disk' to choose Windows, then it'll boot to Windows (bootcamp) and then the bootcamp control panel to get back to OS X.
Is this correct?
And I could also use Boot Runner from https://twocanoes.com/products/mac/boot-runner/ if I choose to.
Any help or comments gratefully received.
Please see the image attached, for the card's pic
It's a Radeon Sapphire Toxic R9 280x 3 Gb
My Mac Pro is a 2009 - 4,1 flashed to 5,1
I want to use the card with 3 monitors, 23", 24" and 30", in OS X and in Bootcamp Windows 10.
I did have a red Sapphire HD 7970, that did this. (it died)
I understand that I can flash the R9 280x card to get a boot screen.
But frankly this is beyond me, I've read all the Netkas pages etc and I just don't have enough coding knowledge, or a PC to do this.
So here's the question:
From the reading I've done and the info at -
http://blog.greggant.com/posts/2018/05/07/definitive-mac-pro-upgrade-guide.html
I understand that I can put the card in the Mac 5,1 and though it won't show a boot screen, it will still boot to OS X.
And if I use 'startup disk' to choose Windows, then it'll boot to Windows (bootcamp) and then the bootcamp control panel to get back to OS X.
Is this correct?
And I could also use Boot Runner from https://twocanoes.com/products/mac/boot-runner/ if I choose to.
Any help or comments gratefully received.
Please see the image attached, for the card's pic
I'm new here but I can say that the 30" monitor I use, or any third monitor requires an active mini dp to DVI D adapter (one with a usb lead for extra juice)
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thanks, mnissen, seems hopefully I'll not need it anymore as the DVI port started to work w/o issues.
if you don't need the boot screen then you can use the GPU as it is, working with all ports.
just for case of any need you can also flash Efi Rom in second Bios, it's really simple and you can still use the original bios on 1st slot
having Win7 it should be possible to save and then flash Rom directly on Mac running windows Amdflash (save button)
once saved go back to OS and run the script on bundle2 with rx280x settings (replace MyRom with the name of your saved Rom)
go back to win7 and flash the patched Rom in second Bios with Amdflah (load image - program)
if everything works, no need to study anything more
if not try to select other slot
if something goes wrong re-flash your saved Rom
if you don't need the boot screen then you can use the GPU as it is, working with all ports.
just for case of any need you can also flash Efi Rom in second Bios, it's really simple and you can still use the original bios on 1st slot
having Win7 it should be possible to save and then flash Rom directly on Mac running windows Amdflash (save button)
once saved go back to OS and run the script on bundle2 with rx280x settings (replace MyRom with the name of your saved Rom)
Code:
./makerom.sh --efifile=280Xmac.efi --romfile=efiromheader_280X.rom --originalrom=MyRom.rom --devid=6798go back to win7 and flash the patched Rom in second Bios with Amdflah (load image - program)
if everything works, no need to study anything more
if not try to select other slot
if something goes wrong re-flash your saved Rom
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Thanks for that, well I've just got another Mac Pro, (old one, back plane card, was too expensive to fix or replace) 4,1 flashed to 5,1, resinstalled 10.13.6 and now I'm going to replace the ATI Radeon HD 4870 512 MB in it with the Radeon Sapphire Toxic R9 280x 3 Gb.
I'm hoping it'll boot.
Then I'll try flashing it with the instructions above.
I'm hoping it'll boot.
Then I'll try flashing it with the instructions above.
inkinx - I'd like to thank you for your help.
I haven't flashed the card, yet. I may do so in the near future.
This is because, I had to do a complete reinstall of WIN10 in Bootcamp. And I'm not confident, that I won't end up with a dead card, if Windows decides to play nasty.
Briefly
2nd hand Mac Pro 4,1 early 2009, 2 x quad core, 32Gb Ram - I flashed this to 5,1 with no issues.
I then re installed OS X 10.13.6 and migrated my files across. OK so far.
Then I put in the SSD, that had the BootCamp and existing WIN10 install on it. This was from when, the previous Mac Pro backplane died and when the previous Radeon HD 7970 died also.
The WIN10 crashed after a few minutes on every start up, didn't matter which program, I was using. So Flame Throwers at dawn was my only option.
I've come to the conclusion that Windows will work quite well, from an orderly fresh install and configuration, but change anything later and you're on you own...
I now have the OS X and the BootCamp running quite well, with the Bootcamp control panel in Windows, allowing me to restart in Mac OS and the startup disk, in Mac OS system preferences, allowing me to restart in Windows.
No boot screen, maybe I'll get a rush of blood to the head and try flashing the card soon
Cheers
I haven't flashed the card, yet. I may do so in the near future.
This is because, I had to do a complete reinstall of WIN10 in Bootcamp. And I'm not confident, that I won't end up with a dead card, if Windows decides to play nasty.
Briefly
2nd hand Mac Pro 4,1 early 2009, 2 x quad core, 32Gb Ram - I flashed this to 5,1 with no issues.
I then re installed OS X 10.13.6 and migrated my files across. OK so far.
Then I put in the SSD, that had the BootCamp and existing WIN10 install on it. This was from when, the previous Mac Pro backplane died and when the previous Radeon HD 7970 died also.
The WIN10 crashed after a few minutes on every start up, didn't matter which program, I was using. So Flame Throwers at dawn was my only option.
I've come to the conclusion that Windows will work quite well, from an orderly fresh install and configuration, but change anything later and you're on you own...
I now have the OS X and the BootCamp running quite well, with the Bootcamp control panel in Windows, allowing me to restart in Mac OS and the startup disk, in Mac OS system preferences, allowing me to restart in Windows.
No boot screen, maybe I'll get a rush of blood to the head and try flashing the card soon
Cheers
well, if everything works, don't fix it
imho, with your simple dual boot system you do not really need the boot screen.
Anyway, if you want, you always can install amdflash for win just for try, check if it detects you card, save the Rom files and stop there
- or continue patching and flashing the efi rom, knowing the second bios on the card can save you if something goes wrong.
imho, with your simple dual boot system you do not really need the boot screen.
Anyway, if you want, you always can install amdflash for win just for try, check if it detects you card, save the Rom files and stop there
- or continue patching and flashing the efi rom, knowing the second bios on the card can save you if something goes wrong.
I think the Sapphire Toxic R9 280x is a dual ROM card. Which means, you can’t brick it by destroying only one ROM.inkinx - I'd like to thank you for your help.
I haven't flashed the card, yet. I may do so in the near future.
This is because, I had to do a complete reinstall of WIN10 in Bootcamp. And I'm not confident, that I won't end up with a dead card, if Windows decides to play nasty.
Briefly
2nd hand Mac Pro 4,1 early 2009, 2 x quad core, 32Gb Ram - I flashed this to 5,1 with no issues.
I then re installed OS X 10.13.6 and migrated my files across. OK so far.
Then I put in the SSD, that had the BootCamp and existing WIN10 install on it. This was from when, the previous Mac Pro backplane died and when the previous Radeon HD 7970 died also.
The WIN10 crashed after a few minutes on every start up, didn't matter which program, I was using. So Flame Throwers at dawn was my only option.
I've come to the conclusion that Windows will work quite well, from an orderly fresh install and configuration, but change anything later and you're on you own...
I now have the OS X and the BootCamp running quite well, with the Bootcamp control panel in Windows, allowing me to restart in Mac OS and the startup disk, in Mac OS system preferences, allowing me to restart in Windows.
No boot screen, maybe I'll get a rush of blood to the head and try flashing the card soon
Cheers
As long as you only flash ROM number 1, then you can’t brick it.
If you break ROM 1, then switch to ROM 2, and you can boot again. Once boot to desktop, you can switch back to ROM 1 (you can do this when the card is running, nothing danger), and flash a healthy ROM back in to recover ROM 1.
Thanks inkinx and h982790 - I think I will try that in the forthcoming weeks, with fingers crossed.
Any thoughts on putting the NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512 MB that came with the mac, in as well, to run a separate 19" monitor, as well as the three screens, on the Sapphire Toxic R9 280x ?
Ideally I'd like to run DCS world on the three screens and stream and so on, on the 19" monitor.
I do know that the Sapphire Toxic R9 280x won't do the 4 monitors, ergo, I wondered if I could have two graphics cards in there at once. Noting that I have a separate 500 watt power supply juicing the Sapphire Toxic R9 280x, as well as the PCIE slot power.
Any thoughts on putting the NVIDIA GeForce GT 120 512 MB that came with the mac, in as well, to run a separate 19" monitor, as well as the three screens, on the Sapphire Toxic R9 280x ?
Ideally I'd like to run DCS world on the three screens and stream and so on, on the 19" monitor.
I do know that the Sapphire Toxic R9 280x won't do the 4 monitors, ergo, I wondered if I could have two graphics cards in there at once. Noting that I have a separate 500 watt power supply juicing the Sapphire Toxic R9 280x, as well as the PCIE slot power.
Gents, once again thanks for the help.
A couple of observations that may help others, browsing this thread.
Briefly: Mac Pro 2009 4,1 flashed to 5,1 (easy to flash). OS X 10.13.6
Windows 10 installed via BootCamp on 1TB SSD (not so easy as the SSD needed to be converted to MBR whilst inside the Win 8.1 installer, see image below, I then upgraded to WIN 10)
Sapphire Toxic R9 280x no boot screen - takes about 1:15 to boot into Win 10 and 2:05 to boot into Mac OS X
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On booting without boot screen, swapping Win 10 and Mac OS X as desired: 'BootCamp control panel' in Windows and 'System Preferences/Startup Disk/' in Mac OS X.
A/. If it's stuck on Win 10 and won't reboot into Mac OS X, reset NVRAM with Command+Option+P+R held down on restart.
B/. Also you can pull the disk trays out, so there's no OS in the machine and boot from a USB OS X installer and set startup disk as the USB, then put the OSX disks back in and set the startup disk from the USB installer to one of the OS X disks.
Importantly beware of (in Windows 10) an 'apple software update' that purports to 'fix' a problem, restarting in either OS X or Windows. It doesn't, it creates that problem.
SO! uninstall Boot Camp from Windows completely and re-install a period appropriate BootCamp version. I used BootCamp5.0.5033
Phew, I was up till 3 am yesterday remedying that one, no more apple updates for me in Windows...
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pic for converting to MBR in Win installer:
Then continue the install in the "unallocated space" that is the right disk and size - as the desired disk.
A couple of observations that may help others, browsing this thread.
Briefly: Mac Pro 2009 4,1 flashed to 5,1 (easy to flash). OS X 10.13.6
Windows 10 installed via BootCamp on 1TB SSD (not so easy as the SSD needed to be converted to MBR whilst inside the Win 8.1 installer, see image below, I then upgraded to WIN 10)
Sapphire Toxic R9 280x no boot screen - takes about 1:15 to boot into Win 10 and 2:05 to boot into Mac OS X
___________
On booting without boot screen, swapping Win 10 and Mac OS X as desired: 'BootCamp control panel' in Windows and 'System Preferences/Startup Disk/' in Mac OS X.
A/. If it's stuck on Win 10 and won't reboot into Mac OS X, reset NVRAM with Command+Option+P+R held down on restart.
B/. Also you can pull the disk trays out, so there's no OS in the machine and boot from a USB OS X installer and set startup disk as the USB, then put the OSX disks back in and set the startup disk from the USB installer to one of the OS X disks.
Importantly beware of (in Windows 10) an 'apple software update' that purports to 'fix' a problem, restarting in either OS X or Windows. It doesn't, it creates that problem.
SO! uninstall Boot Camp from Windows completely and re-install a period appropriate BootCamp version. I used BootCamp5.0.5033
Phew, I was up till 3 am yesterday remedying that one, no more apple updates for me in Windows...
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pic for converting to MBR in Win installer:
Then continue the install in the "unallocated space" that is the right disk and size - as the desired disk.
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3 months later and an update for those who are interested -
From High Sierra I upgraded to Mojave and got a handy 'speedup' firmware update, then via DosDude's patching, I installed Catalina, which is working out OK, with a few very minor false notes, but overall very good.
The Bootcamp install, was untouched and remained working though-out the ride.
After sterling service I've retired the R9 280X, as I got a Sapphire NITRO+ RX 580 Special Edition
Which just works - and allows me 75 FPS on medium settings in DCS World, and 35 FPS on high settings.
Luverly.
On the lack of boot screen, I came across this - QuickBoot - a small app that (when in Catalina) pops up and allows you to choose another OS (you have installed on your machine) to boot into. Which it does.
And then when you restart from that chosen OS, it automatically reboots into Catalina .
This solves the problem of Bootcamp and Windows not recognising APFS volumes, to allow booting from them, so QuickBoot just does it. Great!
buttered-cat.com
I'm a happy Pilot now
From High Sierra I upgraded to Mojave and got a handy 'speedup' firmware update, then via DosDude's patching, I installed Catalina, which is working out OK, with a few very minor false notes, but overall very good.
The Bootcamp install, was untouched and remained working though-out the ride.
After sterling service I've retired the R9 280X, as I got a Sapphire NITRO+ RX 580 Special Edition
Which just works - and allows me 75 FPS on medium settings in DCS World, and 35 FPS on high settings.
Luverly.
On the lack of boot screen, I came across this - QuickBoot - a small app that (when in Catalina) pops up and allows you to choose another OS (you have installed on your machine) to boot into. Which it does.
And then when you restart from that chosen OS, it automatically reboots into Catalina .
This solves the problem of Bootcamp and Windows not recognising APFS volumes, to allow booting from them, so QuickBoot just does it. Great!
QuickBoot
QuickBoot is a handy utility to make it easier to reboot into your Boot Camp windows drive, or even another OS X install. It will also not permantly change your startup disk so once you reboot again, it’ll boot back to your standard OS. Choose to boot windows and go get a drink, no more waiting...
buttered-cat.com
I'm a happy Pilot now
Just a note for anyone still reading this thread 2 years later, the quick boot app has had no work done on it for over 8 years now and according to GitHub has several un-resolved issues with Mohave, Catalina, etc. Glad MNissen got it to work for him but I wasn't able to on my cMP 3,1 with Catalina. The bootcamp control panel still doesn't recognize APFS formatted drives and seems to ignore other MacOS systems selected on other HFS+ drives. The quick boot app would be a great idea if I could get it working on my system....3 months later and an update for those who are interested -
From High Sierra I upgraded to Mojave and got a handy 'speedup' firmware update, then via DosDude's patching, I installed Catalina, which is working out OK, with a few very minor false notes, but overall very good.
The Bootcamp install, was untouched and remained working though-out the ride.
After sterling service I've retired the R9 280X, as I got a Sapphire NITRO+ RX 580 Special Edition
Which just works - and allows me 75 FPS on medium settings in DCS World, and 35 FPS on high settings.
Luverly.
On the lack of boot screen, I came across this - QuickBoot - a small app that (when in Catalina) pops up and allows you to choose another OS (you have installed on your machine) to boot into. Which it does.
And then when you restart from that chosen OS, it automatically reboots into Catalina .
This solves the problem of Bootcamp and Windows not recognising APFS volumes, to allow booting from them, so QuickBoot just does it. Great!
QuickBoot
QuickBoot is a handy utility to make it easier to reboot into your Boot Camp windows drive, or even another OS X install. It will also not permantly change your startup disk so once you reboot again, it’ll boot back to your standard OS. Choose to boot windows and go get a drink, no more waiting...
I'm a happy Pilot now