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^^^^The whole TRIM thing has been discussed many times on this forum. You can activate it by using a Terminal command. The command is "sudo trimforce enable" There is very little risk of losing data if it's not enabled, TRIM is mainly for housekeeping, but is, IMHO, a valuable tool for maintaining the health of your SSD. I have used TRIM since I started using SSDs. Do a search for TRIM both here and in Google and you'll get a better idea of it's benefits.

Lou
Thanks. I read as much as I could before jumping into the PCIe area but the TRIM discussion was never clear until now. Are those punctuation marks meant to be a furrowed brow?
 
^^^^HA HA - No, the quotation marks are used to identify the exact Terminal command necessary to enable TRIM on OS 10.10.4 or later.

Lou
 
Got my 512GB SM951 and Lycom DT-120, installed, cloned boot drive... it's a beautiful thing :D

This thread was very helpful, so thanks to those who contributed.

I bought Disk Sensei for TRIM, as I'm staying on Mavericks for now, pretty nice app regardless.
 
I have 2.5" SSDs in the stock drive bays of my 4,1->5,1 and can tell you that having the SSD is like night and day compared to a traditional mechanical disk drive. Yes it's not as fast as a PCIE-based SSD but for everyday casual use you would not notice much of a difference between a SATA-2 SSD and a PCIE SSD. I've been very pleased.

Once you get into large file work, encoding, conversion, high-res video, etc. you are more likely to notice/appreciate the extra throughput that a PCIE SSD can offer.

Yeah the thing I'm struggling with is that my boot drive is already going to be 512mb max. It's so full that any of my big time data that I would notice a huge speed boost from loading will be on my hard disks still. I kind of feel like I need at least 1TB for the SSD to be useful but you just cannot find that in one of these m.2's unless you shell out nearly $1000 for an Apple one on eBay, and then you're not getting a warranty or anything.

But when it's only $100 more for the blade, and it frees up a whole drive bay, that's pretty enticing. I'm not using those PCIe slots for anything else. There's other benefits for the use of the blade than just the extra speed.
 
I don't know if I'm posting on the relevant thread but I certainly know this topic should be relevant for many non techies like me, firstly this TRIM thing is new to me, but ive tried and tried cleaning up HDD space. I have 2 iMacs one running 1TB PCIe and another running 500GB. Mac Air 2013 i7 with 512GB SSD, 2013 Mac Mini with 500GB, and 2 Macbook Pros, one core duo first edition (loved and still do the alum casing to bits) running on a clunky 500GB that era HDD and a newer 2014 MacBook Pro with 512 SSD. I'm Pretty much hardcore apple since dumping DOS and windows 3.1.
NOW THE PROBLEM I HOPE SOMEONE CAN HELP ME WITH! I have very little and sometimes no apps installed on some of the machines but since Yosemite onwards all of them are RUNNING OUT of storage!! I can't seem to get rid of a lot of the "others" part, and I cannot figure what is taking up the space. On the older machines perhaps I would understand the accumulated junk, ironically its my newer machines especially the Books that are yelling to me that I'm outta space. Ridiculous like 10MB left kinda situations sometimes! Help pls!!!!! :~(
 
I don't know if I'm posting on the relevant thread (...)

A bit off topic indeed but two recommendations:
  1. Analyse your disk with something like Disk Inventory X or OmniDiskSweeper, very useful to locate big files.
  2. Install El Capitan, you will gain quite a few GBytes compared to Yosemite.
 
I don't know if I'm posting on the relevant thread but I certainly know this topic should be relevant for many non techies like me, firstly this TRIM thing is new to me, but ive tried and tried cleaning up HDD space. I have 2 iMacs one running 1TB PCIe and another running 500GB. Mac Air 2013 i7 with 512GB SSD, 2013 Mac Mini with 500GB, and 2 Macbook Pros, one core duo first edition (loved and still do the alum casing to bits) running on a clunky 500GB that era HDD and a newer 2014 MacBook Pro with 512 SSD. I'm Pretty much hardcore apple since dumping DOS and windows 3.1.
NOW THE PROBLEM I HOPE SOMEONE CAN HELP ME WITH! I have very little and sometimes no apps installed on some of the machines but since Yosemite onwards all of them are RUNNING OUT of storage!! I can't seem to get rid of a lot of the "others" part, and I cannot figure what is taking up the space. On the older machines perhaps I would understand the accumulated junk, ironically its my newer machines especially the Books that are yelling to me that I'm outta space. Ridiculous like 10MB left kinda situations sometimes! Help pls!!!!! :~(
There are several possible culprits for this situation, large log files reporting a problem over and over, and time machine local backups, among others. You can use Onyx to zap all of the log files and turn off those local time machine backups. Or use the terminal command for the later:
Disable Time Machine local backups. This setting gets changed back to "ON" every time Time Machine is turned on or off. Use this command in terminal: sudo tmutil disablelocal (it will ask for your password, enter that and press the Enter key)
As said above, use OmniDiskSweeper to investigate where the large problem file(s) are.
 
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There's a guy on Facebook I know of that appearently uses Intel 750 PCI SSD for his Mac Pro 5.1 and according to him it is bootable. I can't find anything on that online, anyone that can confirm? Also, the new Samsung 950 Series, is it bootable as well?
 
^^^^No. See my Post No.1337 on the prior page of this thread:

^^^^This won't work in a cMP because it uses NVMe technology. The XP941 and most of the SM951 production use AHCI Technology which is compatible with the cMP. A forum member is working on a project to modify the EFI to support NVMe SSDs. Don't know if this will come to fruition or not, but currently NVMe is a No-Go.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/nvme-for-mac-pro-5-1.1919972/

The guy on Facebook is wrong!

Lou
 
This is the Web Site. A PDF Manual is available. Not Bad. Looks like a monster.

http://amfeltec.com/products/pci-express-carrier-board-for-m-2-ssd-modules/

I'm surprised Rob has not put this on Bare Feats yet?

Lou

boot support should not be an issue
This whets my appetite! How much does it cost? Does the card function as a 4 * hardware RAID 0? I guess not bootable, but a great scratch disk.

The card has a pcie switch onboard and one would need to be a software raid. have there been reports on the card as a non-bootable solution?
 
boot support should not be an issue


The card has a pcie switch onboard and one would need to be a software raid. have there been reports on the card as a non-bootable solution?

Nice. I wish they had one for the Apple proprietary SSD's. Seems like it might have a chance at curing the link speed glitch in the x16 slot.
 
The price of PLX chips seems to rise exponentially as the number of PCIe lanes they can handle rises. Compared to offerings from other vendors that split four 4x connections from a single 16x connection, US$300 is at the lower end of the spectrum. If they used the same chip to split a 16x connection into four 4x PCIe slots for a similar price I'd be all over it like Oprah on a glazed ham!
 
Nice. I wish they had one for the Apple proprietary SSD's. Seems like it might have a chance at curing the link speed glitch in the x16 slot.

Well... it just so happens that sintech manufacturers Apple pcie ssd -> m.2 adapters. allowing a mix of 4 full speed m.2 and apple pcie ssd's on the board. :cool:. while the nmp can use this in an external enclosure, it tops out at 1300 mb/s r/w compared to the 5900 mb/s reported by rob @ barefeats.
 
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@handheldgames

Actually I am currently using one of these adapters on my work machine, got it from here. I have replaced my old XP941 256 SSD blade with a 512 Apple SSD. It works fine, no issues.

However I have to admit, I did not know that Sintech carries such adaptor. Could you please share a link to the product?
 
Well... it just so happens that sintech manufacturers Apple pcie ssd -> m.2 adapters. allowing a mix of 4 full speed m.2 and apple pcie ssd's on the board. :cool:. while the nmp can use this in an external enclosure, it tops out at 1300 mb/s r/w compared to the 5900 mb/s reported by rob @ barefeats.

Does that same speed limit come in to play when placing the cars into the x16 slot of the cMP?
 
here is the apple ssd-> m2 adapter.
http://eshop.sintech.cn/mobile/ui/product.php?id=1096&s=2893665969842

thunderbolt 2 tops out at speeds slower than the ssubx delivers via pcie x4. testing the ssubx in a tb2 enclosure quickly revealed its limits, lets call it apple's little secret that 99% of marketing materials leave out. it's not a full speed x4 connection. so a single x16 board with 4 ssubx /sm951's in raid 0 on the nmp in an enosure would run 1300 mb/s ish, the max tb2 can handle, compared to 5900 mb/s via x16 on the cmp. imo... its amazing how a Mac pro cheese grater edition from 2009 continues to outpace the shiny trash can's built-in obsolescence.
 
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So I asked a little while ago and never bought anything. But I'm looking for a pcie adapter and a 1gb ssd to put in my 2008 Mac Pro which is painfully slow lately and I'd like to squeeze another couple of years of life out of it.

I'm considering a 1tb Samsung Evo 850 and a OWC Accelsior s adapter. Has anyone used this combo?

I think my Mac Pro is an early 2008 model.
 
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