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Ethosik

Contributor
Oct 21, 2009
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My Safari keeps crashing, so it is not a server issue. Do I need to disable Spotlight for Safari to work?
 

MacAlien

macrumors 6502a
Oct 17, 2012
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I repaired permissions which stopped the crashing of Spotlight and Safari, least visibly. Opening the Console app and that thing is just working overtime...
 

2010mini

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Jun 19, 2013
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Did you manually or did the system automatically re-install the security update?

I’m guessing it did it by itself.
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I repaired permissions which stopped the crashing of Spotlight and Safari, least visibly. Opening the Console app and that thing is just working overtime...

Walk me through those steps please.
 

LilRedCorbett

macrumors newbie
Dec 1, 2017
2
0
Did everyone else having this issue have their computer "magically" fix itself? Mine is still flipping out and I can't seem to find a fix anywhere. I've tried the steps above but it's still acting like a meth head! Grr!
 

iapplelove

Suspended
Nov 22, 2011
5,324
7,638
East Coast USA
I installed the first update the day it came out. Turned my MBP on today and it showed the second update and already updating.

However I only see it updated once in my update history, the update from 11/29.
 

fragilex

macrumors newbie
Dec 1, 2017
2
0
I’m having the same issue. Only happening to my primary admin account. Safari and spotlight both crashing. I noticed that spotlight didn’t start crashing until Safari did. I’ve gone through all the normal troubleshooting techniques, even did a full restore from backup. At first the restore seemed to work, but after a while the crashing started back up. My problem, unfortunately, has not yet magically fixed itself.
 

Droppinoppi

macrumors newbie
Dec 1, 2017
17
4
I am having the same issue.

In the console, it shows Safari and Spotlight crashing with the exact same exception from CoreFoundation:

*** Terminating app due to uncaught exception 'NSInvalidArgumentException', reason: '*** -[__NSPlaceholderDictionary initWithObjects:forKeys:count:]: attempt to insert nil object from objects[1]'

*** First throw call stack:

(

0 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff34fd92fb __exceptionPreprocess + 171

1 libobjc.A.dylib 0x00007fff5b94ac76 objc_exception_throw + 48

2 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff3501a7b4 _CFThrowFormattedException + 202

3 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff34edc7c2 -[__NSPlaceholderDictionary initWithObjects:forKeys:count:] + 322

4 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff34edc64b +[NSDictionary dictionaryWithObjects:forKeys:count:] + 59

5 CommerceKit 0x00007fff46e17858 -[CKStoreDAAPLibrary _writePersistedStore] + 402

6 CommerceKit 0x00007fff46e19c45 -[CKStoreDAAPLibrary _updatedItems:deletedItems:withLatestVersion:] + 988

7 CommerceKit <…>​
 

ckFoxtrot

macrumors newbie
Sep 4, 2009
5
0
I'm having the same issue, after my first restart after installing the recent security update.

Spotlight keeps crashing (as seen by it's disappearance and reappearance every 5-10 seconds in the menu bar). Safari won't stay open for long either.

I've tried a number of different things. I attempted using mdutil in terminal to turn off Spotlight indexing, removed the indexes, manually deleted them, turned it back on, played around with the settings for Spotlight in System preferences, and so on, and nothing worked. I even played around with my User Accounts to see if that would solve anything, to no avail.

I resorted to backing everything up and going with a format/clean install of High Sierra. I thought it straightened everything out, but my first restart after the security update things started glitching out again.

Right now spotlight actually seems to have settled down after doing a SMC reset (didn't really think it would do anything but gave it a try), but Safari is still crashing. Not sure what the issue or best recourse might be. Maybe just waiting it out at this point and/or waiting for another Apple update...
 

Fin745

macrumors member
Jan 3, 2013
45
19
Right now spotlight actually seems to have settled down after doing a SMC reset (didn't really think it would do anything but gave it a try), but Safari is still crashing. Not sure what the issue or best recourse might be. Maybe just waiting it out at this point and/or waiting for another Apple update...
See if you have another security update, that seemed to fix the issue for me.
 

wesley96

macrumors 6502
Sep 21, 2009
353
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macOS 10.13.1 17B1003 here with the Spotlight and Safari crashing issue after reboot.

Booting from a clean backup did not help, either, surprisingly. Also, the reboot was unintentional - the circuit breaker tripped when the vacuum cleaner was turned on. So I initially thought the problem was with hardware. But doing the integrated Apple Diagnostics (pressing D after boot) did not reveal any issues. Feeling strange, I searched the web and... found this thread.

The two security patches were applied. Even tried installing manually. No good.

Tried deselecting all Spotlight indexing items, and excluding all drives. Still no good. Tried deselecting search-related options on Safari. Didn't help. Booting to safe mode? Same.

Oh, and indeed this only happens with the primary account. Guest account does not have this issue.

I'm now at a loss, like many of you. Interesting thing is that the beta 6 of the 10.13.2, which has the security patch included, apparently causes the same problem for some people.

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...o-developers-and-public-beta-testers.2092337/
 

ThatGuyInLa

macrumors 6502a
Oct 26, 2012
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SC
Not a great couple of weeks for Apple. This is really bad. Crippled systems galore.

Curious? Are AFS and HFS users experiencing the same issue? I have a Fusion iMac so I’m still HFS and am having this. I was able to resolve this by setting a ROOT password. Something I have never done before in 15-years of Mac usage.
 
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wesley96

macrumors 6502
Sep 21, 2009
353
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To note, my affected system (iMac 21.5" 2017) is running APFS. Curiously, my other system (MacBook Air 11" 2012), also on APFS, is doing just fine.

Wait, the issue just cleared itself up after about 6 hours of non-stop crash-fest. I'm afraid to reboot, but at least the flickering Spotlight icon is no more, for now.
 

Heruhur

macrumors member
Apr 4, 2017
64
40
Oldebroek
Had this issue as well.
With me it stopped after some dialog box stating something about restoring window yada yada . . .
It had two options something in the line of "do not restore" and "restore" I clicked the first and after that it was over.
Rebooted again to check. And still good to go.
 

MacAlien

macrumors 6502a
Oct 17, 2012
500
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Boston
Recheck your console. While visually the issue seems to be fixed, there seems to be a lot going of activity going on in the app.

Sample:
error 07:15:50.060702 -0500 Console Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:15:50.060791 -0500 Console Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:15:50.063105 -0500 Console Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:15:50.063159 -0500 Console Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:15:50.197244 -0500 Console Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:15:50.197311 -0500 Console Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:15:54.850284 -0500 loginwindow Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:15:54.850340 -0500 loginwindow Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:15:54.851199 -0500 loginwindow Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:15:54.851242 -0500 loginwindow Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:15:54.851996 -0500 loginwindow Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:15:56.937251 -0500 sandboxd Sandbox: fseventsd(54) System Policy: deny file-read-metadata /private/var/folders/rm/h_m88f6d0_jd4f4y3d6cfc6h0000gn/0/com.apple.nsurlsessiond/E8C9768780A371F36651AB699D884E881706B377/153018E084C3ABE64C26C5D63E771E78FB314916
Violation: System Policy: deny file-read-metadata /private/var/folders/rm/h_m88f6d0_jd4f4y3d6cfc6h0000gn/0/com.apple.nsurlsessiond/E8C9768780A371F36651AB699D884E881706B377/153018E084C3ABE64C26C5D63E771E78FB314916
MetaData: {"build":"Mac OS X 10.13.1 (17B1003)","action":"deny","target":["private","var","folders","rm","h_m88f6d0_jd4f4y3d6cfc6h0000gn","0","com.apple.nsurlsessiond","E8C9768780A371F36651AB699D884E881706B377","153018E084C3ABE64C26C5D63E771E78FB314916"],"hardware":"Mac","platform_binary":"yes","profile":"unknown","process":"fseventsd","op":"file-read-metadata"}

Process: fseventsd [54]
Path: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/Support/fseventsd
Load Address: 0x102d88000
Identifier: fseventsd
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type: x86_64 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [1]
Responsible: /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/Support/fseventsd [54]
User ID: 0

Date/Time: 2017-12-02 07:15:56.934 EST
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.13.1 (17B1003)
Report Version: 8

Thread 0 (id: 581):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e19de76 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e19dbd0 mach_msg_server + 369
2 fseventsd 0x0000000102d89f9e
3 libdyld.dylib 0x00007fff7e057144 start + 0
4 fseventsd 0x0000000000000001

Thread 1 (id: 630):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e1a6e7e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 fseventsd 0x0000000102d943d8
2 fseventsd 0x0000000102d9483a
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e16c1 _pthread_body + 340
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e156d _pthread_body + 0
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e0c5d thread_start + 13

Thread 2 (id: 631):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e1a76da __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e0c4d start_wqthread + 13

Thread 3 (id: 633):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e19de76 mach_msg_trap + 10
1 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff569d7dd5 __CFRunLoopServiceMachPort + 341
2 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff569d7127 __CFRunLoopRun + 1783
3 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff569d6797 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 487
4 CoreFoundation 0x00007fff56a14b63 CFRunLoopRun + 99
5 fseventsd 0x0000000102d8c0b7
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e16c1 _pthread_body + 340
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e156d _pthread_body + 0
8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e0c5d thread_start + 13

Thread 4 (id: 634):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e1a8592 read + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e16c1 _pthread_body + 340
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e156d _pthread_body + 0
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e0c5d thread_start + 13

Thread 5 (id: 635):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e1a6e7e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 fseventsd 0x0000000102d90b39
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e16c1 _pthread_body + 340
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e156d _pthread_body + 0
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e0c5d thread_start + 13

Thread 6 (id: 17763):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e1a8142 lstat$INODE64 + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e16c1 _pthread_body + 340
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e156d _pthread_body + 0
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e0c5d thread_start + 13

Thread 7 (id: 17764):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e1a6e7e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 fseventsd 0x0000000102d90b83
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e16c1 _pthread_body + 340
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e156d _pthread_body + 0
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e0c5d thread_start + 13

Thread 8 (id: 17776):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e1a773a access + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e16c1 _pthread_body + 340
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e156d _pthread_body + 0
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e0c5d thread_start + 13

Thread 9 (id: 17950):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e1a6e7e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 fseventsd 0x0000000102d90b83
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e16c1 _pthread_body + 340
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e156d _pthread_body + 0
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e0c5d thread_start + 13

Thread 10 (id: 18216):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e1a6e7e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 fseventsd 0x0000000102d90b83
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e16c1 _pthread_body + 340
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e156d _pthread_body + 0
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e0c5d thread_start + 13

Thread 11 (id: 18217):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e1a6e7e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 fseventsd 0x0000000102d90b83
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e16c1 _pthread_body + 340
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e156d _pthread_body + 0
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e0c5d thread_start + 13

Thread 12 (id: 18218):
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x00007fff7e1a6e7e __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 fseventsd 0x0000000102d90b83
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e16c1 _pthread_body + 340
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e156d _pthread_body + 0
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x00007fff7e2e0c5d thread_start + 13

Binary Images:
0x102d88000 - 0x102d98fff fseventsd (1239) <c44a37bf-75f0-31f0-b02e-3b32ce56f59c> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/FSEvents.framework/Versions/A/Support/fseventsd
0x7fff56955000 - 0x7fff56dedfff com.apple.CoreFoundation (6.9 - 1445.12) <7f522366-477b-3c55-a01f-42f91a522671> /System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation
0x7fff7e056000 - 0x7fff7e073ff7 libdyld.dylib (519.2.1) <2597d818-42d2-3375-bd9d-451d5942a6ba> /usr/lib/system/libdyld.dylib
0x7fff7e18b000 - 0x7fff7e1b0ff7 libsystem_kernel.dylib (4570.20.62) <77865aba-d9ca-31d5-b484-560660cab07d> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_kernel.dylib
0x7fff7e2de000 - 0x7fff7e2e9fff libsystem_pthread.dylib (301.20.1) <8af70211-a670-3cc7-ae24-efe9f1c2b1e5> /usr/lib/system/libsystem_pthread.dylib
error 07:15:56.937590 -0500 sandboxd Sandbox: fseventsd(54) System Policy: deny file-read-metadata /private/var/folders/rm/h_m88f6d0_jd4f4y3d6cfc6h0000gn/0/com.apple.nsurlsessiond/E8C9768780A371F36651AB699D884E881706B377/153018E084C3ABE64C26C5D63E771E78FB314916/tasks.plist [Duplicate; no report will be generated.]
error 07:15:57.426760 -0500 sandboxd Sandbox: fseventsd(54) System Policy: deny file-read-metadata /private/var/folders/rm/h_m88f6d0_jd4f4y3d6cfc6h0000gn/0/com.apple.nsurlsessiond/E8C9768780A371F36651AB699D884E881706B377/153018E084C3ABE64C26C5D63E771E78FB314916 [Duplicate; no report will be generated.]
error 07:15:57.926731 -0500 sandboxd Sandbox: fseventsd(54) System Policy: deny file-read-metadata /private/var/folders/rm/h_m88f6d0_jd4f4y3d6cfc6h0000gn/0/com.apple.nsurlsessiond/E8C9768780A371F36651AB699D884E881706B377/153018E084C3ABE64C26C5D63E771E78FB314916/tasks.plist [Duplicate; no report will be generated.]
error 07:15:58.918369 -0500 nsurlsessiond TIC Read Status [25:0x0]: 1:57
error 07:15:58.918394 -0500 nsurlsessiond TIC Read Status [25:0x0]: 1:57
error 07:16:09.995519 -0500 sharingd Trying to grab power assertion while we already have one
error 07:16:09.999021 -0500 UserEventAgent Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:16:09.999103 -0500 UserEventAgent Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:16:10.002116 -0500 Safari Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:16:10.002173 -0500 Safari Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:16:10.021400 -0500 Safari Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:16:10.026036 -0500 Safari Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:16:10.026093 -0500 Safari Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:16:10.026607 -0500 Safari Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:16:12.955606 -0500 UserEventAgent Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:16:12.955717 -0500 UserEventAgent Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:16:12.959509 -0500 sharingd Trying to grab power assertion while we already have one
error 07:16:12.961564 -0500 UserEventAgent Month 13 is out of bounds
error 07:16:12.961617 -0500 UserEventAgent Month 13 is out of bounds

And that's only after a couple seconds looking in there... something is still bad imo. It just keeps going and going and going...
 

fragilex

macrumors newbie
Dec 1, 2017
2
0
Closed the lid on my 2017 MacBook Pro last night, in disgust, with spotlight and safari still crashing. This morning I decided to try enabling root user and creating a PW. However, before I did anything, I suddenly realized spotlight was no longer crashing. Opened Safari and it's fine too.

So, no idea what was truly behind this problem (other than it being something about the 2nd Apple security update), and absolutely nothing I did would fix it. But, I leave it alone for the night and now it's fine. This is one of the weirdest Mac problems I've seen. I hope it magically resolves for everyone else too.

I’m having the same issue. Only happening to my primary admin account. Safari and spotlight both crashing. I noticed that spotlight didn’t start crashing until Safari did. I’ve gone through all the normal troubleshooting techniques, even did a full restore from backup. At first the restore seemed to work, but after a while the crashing started back up. My problem, unfortunately, has not yet magically fixed itself.
 

Heruhur

macrumors member
Apr 4, 2017
64
40
Oldebroek
Recheck your console. While visually the issue seems to be fixed, there seems to be a lot going of activity going on in the app.

Sample:


And that's only after a couple seconds looking in there... something is still bad imo. It just keeps going and going and going...
Hmm same date thing as iOS 11 date bug?
Let's hope for a fix coming Monday or Tuesday. (maybe 10.13.2?)
 

LilRedCorbett

macrumors newbie
Dec 1, 2017
2
0
Ok, I'm at a loss. I did the exact same thing as fragilex and mine is back to normal now. It magically sorted itself out, so I hope it does for everyone else too.
 

AppleFan360

macrumors 68020
Jan 26, 2008
2,216
733
Me too. Last night Safari was crashing. This morning, working fine. Didn't really do anything between last night and this morning. Weird.
 

iapplelove

Suspended
Nov 22, 2011
5,324
7,638
East Coast USA
Anyone else have iTunes crashing as well? Safari and spotlight are fine, but ITunes crashes at least once after its open.

Tried to backup both my iPhone and iPad and both times it crashed during backup.
 
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