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See Samsung's Sunday newspaper ad about the iPhone 5. Whats your thoughts? (merged)
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Picasso had a saying - 'good artists copy, great artists steal' - and we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas.*
―*Walter Isaacson
,*"Steve Jobs
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Right but if its not a decent argument then it wont convince anyone to get the product.
Dell has done it.
This kinda reminds me of the Dell's compare Apples to Apples advertisements. Dell would twists facts to make Windows and Live Essentials sound better to Mac os X and iLife (like Windows Essentials is better because Windows Movie Maker has a very small and insignificant feature that iMovie doesn't, but they don't mention that Windows Essentials doesn't have a music making programs and iLife does.)
This kinda reminds me of the Dell's compare Apples to Apples advertisements. Dell would twists facts to make Windows and Live Essentials sound better to Mac os X and iLife (like Windows Essentials is better because Windows Movie Maker has a very small and insignificant feature that iMovie doesn't, but they don't mention that Windows Essentials doesn't have a music making programs and iLife does.)
hahahah this is hilarious! I might ad it to my sig.
I am a big fan of OSX. Not as big a fan of iOS. Don't hate the iphone either, what gave you that idea?
I didn't google anything to make a point
Can you please point out the lies in the ad?
"This is the more pointless ****ing argument ever."
You mean to say "This is the most pointless ****ing argument ever."
Is there an "off" switch for these pointless rants?
I hope MR makes tons of money on adds from all this nonsense whistling against the wind.
I hope MR makes tons of money on adds from all this nonsense whistling against the wind.
It's a pretty much an idiotic ad. One thing is true: it doesn't take a genius - which is pretty convenient when there isn't one anywhere in Samsung's marketing department.
Spec wars might be able to spark a nice lively debate in geek forums but that's about it. On the other hand, the general public (the audience for which this ad is targeted and who don't live and breath in geek forums), simply won't be able to relate to this ad. In other words, most ordinary folks have no idea what NFC is or what it does, and if you don't explain it or show how it works in ordinary life and why it's beneficial, it means nothing.
That's why the Mac v PC ads managed to resonate so well. They targeted the general public, but focused completely on the user experience of a Mac versus PC which is something that many people could relate to. Rattling of baffling specs that are imperceptible to the intended audience is not how you distinguish your product to the ordinary public.
Spec wars might be able to spark a nice lively debate in geek forums but that's about it. On the other hand, the general public (the audience for which this ad is targeted and who don't live and breath in geek forums), simply won't be able to relate to this ad. In other words, most ordinary folks have no idea what NFC is or what it does, and if you don't explain it or show how it works in ordinary life and why it's beneficial, it means nothing.
That's why the Mac v PC ads managed to resonate so well. They targeted the general public, but focused completely on the user experience of a Mac versus PC which is something that many people could relate to. Rattling of baffling specs that are imperceptible to the intended audience is not how you distinguish your product to the ordinary public.
Apparently you don't understand the deeper meaning behind the Picasso quote. I don't think Picasso or Steve Jobs advocated taking another person's work and passing it off as your own.
It's one thing to be influenced by the developments of the past. It's another thing to take those influences and advancing. It's the nature of human history.
Really? How many people on this thread said they changed their mind and were now going to purchase an S III over an iPhone 5? Talking about the ad means nothing if it doesn't translate into sales for Samsung.
Also notice how a lot of the features only listed on the S are software features, whereas they don't mention anything about iOS 6.
I love how companies throw the word "Innovation" around after they've just copied someone else's work. No phone looked or operated like this before 2007. It's documented. Everyone knows Apple is the innovator, and created this new segment that everyone is trying to get a piece of. It's just too bad samsung feels the need to sling mud rather than show appreciation. Everyone can argue all they want. It is what it is. Apple invented this class of devices. Everyone is frantically trying to copy what they can, as fast as they can, without putting 6 years and billions of R&D dollars into their work. Sadly, there are people who think Apple is evil for this. So it goes.
In the end, it's a god damned telephone. You guys are arguing over a freaking telephone.
In the end, it's a god damned telephone. You guys are arguing over a freaking telephone.
The technology is good, the implication is bad. If NFC can exchnage information between devices, so it can exchange viruses, malware or user information. Android is open software, so it is easy to get viruses, iPhone is closed controled ecosystem so if you not jailbreak it, its safe. When apple adopt NFC they will do it their way, focosing on security, useability and user experiance. Sammy has it, so i wanna know how many of those users use it. 1%? 0.05%? Or maybe less. So its there but nobody use it, and thats the big deal. I use my iPad every single day and every single feature is great and I use it almost all the time.
What samsung do, is just trowing **** on a wall (users) and hope some of the **** sticks to do wall (users like it). With iOS you can see some great new features, but its almost all about making the features it has now, better. The idea is not to give every software update a dozen of new system apps, but maybe one or two, but they should be great. When apple wants to Create a feature they probably think about cons and pros and if they cant clear all the cons, they dont give it to user because they care about him. Sammy just make stuffs with acceptable level of cons and pros and use the users for laboratory rats.
I was being sarcastic to another user wikus or something was his name who said that Apple stole the idea for the iPhone from the LG Prada phone.
I posted a youtube video to show that they have little in common.
Right, the Mac vs PC ads did resonate very well, but didn't necessarily translate into market share, especially at the much higher prices for Macs. But with the lower price points for phones, your point is very valid and translating into market share.
Price and mindshare, a formidable combination.
Yeah, I'm about to move to Austin. They have Fry's there. Do they train their employees to be Bishops of the Holy Church of Android there?
I don't think apple does either. They know a good majority of their users are demanding something, they don't give it to them and yet they still come back and buy the next model
But hey, if you do understand why i'd like to hear it.
I do!...just cause you don't doesn't mean others don't
Most of Samsung's additional "features" are laughable (seriously, "shake to update" - just because it sounds cool doesn't mean you should put it in your phone!).
Listing the specs of something means absolutely nothing if the OS isn't simple and attractive to your typical consumer.
Simple is key - when looking at this kind of technology, the spec sheet shouldn't matter to a certain degree - us geeks don't get this because we are looking at things from the wrong perspective. Most people want tools to help them live and enjoy life, not the other way around.
The difference between Samsung and Apple is just as clear as the difference between their remote controls.
How can an OS be a good product without a quality control department? I can give a 2 year old an iPad and she/he would know how to use it; give them any various Android plastic and they'll be upset like the day you bought them Cheese Nips over Cheez-Its.
Samsung's #1 goal should improve ones life, not just improve the spec sheet, because in the end that is really what it all comes down to.
You can call me an Apple 'fanboy' all you want, but all you're doing is pointing out the fact that I believe in a company that has the best business model, a company that has set this standard since 1984 (I know I'm going to get killed for that, so this should be fun
Simple is better in most cases.
I'm an average user and I read through the list and thought some of the added features would be very useful like putting the phone on mute when you turn it over. Very clever.
How many times have we heard people like you bleating on in this forum about Samsung should not copy Apple but should innovate and create their own functions. Well they did just that and you're still bleating on. Only this time it's "the iPhone doesn't need loads of useful features" - presumably because the iSheep would buy a turd if it had and Apple logo on it.
How does the iPhone "improve one's life"? What a load of bollocks. It's just an expensive phone. Nothing more nothing less. My life would not be improved one jot for having an iPhone or any other mobile phone for that matter.