I stopped fighting subscriptions also, and I am picky on what apps I subscribe too.
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I dropped 1Password in favor of Bitwarden and haven't looked back. Their move to subscription only was irritating enough as it was.
I switched from 1PW to Bitwarden and when I show it to people I usually say, "I know it's ugly but....".
The subscription part never bothered me with 1P. If there's one type of software that I want engineers actively being paid to work on its software that deals with my most valuable information. I want bugs fixed, and exploits tracked and squashed IMMEDIATELY. Paying a team to be there to accomplish this is the best way to trust it's actually getting done.
Except that they used to let us pay them by purchasing a license. A few years later I would purchase another license for a major upgrade. They removed that option with 1PW 8 and the price would end up being over double what I was previously paying to keep it a few years. I started shopping around and found something I liked just as much so I switched.
Skipping out on new updated versions of a password manager is not something I've ever been willing to do. (For the reasons listed above.) It's not worth the risk to me.
I'm not judging people like you for looking for an alternative. I'm just sharing my opinion on why I happily pay a yearly subscription. It also allows developers to throw in new features as soon as they are completed ...not needing to wait for enough of them to pile up to include in a new "major upgrade" release.
I think 1Password pretty generous with releases for years. I found this article from 2018 saying 1Password 7 was their 1st paid upgrade in 5 years. I am like you, I won’t skip upgrades on something that’s so important.
I stated with 1Password 4 and paid for it (maybe even 3), and the next updates were no change until 1Password 7.
Considering all the devices I have 1Password on, the subscription is actually cheaper for me. I also have the family plan and I got a deal when I started with them on the subscription, and I have 10 users for the price of 5.
This is one of the few subscription I don’t mind paying. I dropped Hulu and Disney and I don’t even miss them.
I don’t mind paying £33 a year for 1Password. I have it on my Mac. iPad and iPhone,
FYI, that's not at all what I was doing. I paid for a license for 1PW 6. I kept getting software upgrades for years for 1PW 6 until they released 1PW 7. I paid for license for that and got upgrades for 1PW 7 for years. When they removed that option for 1PW 8 I started shopping around and switched.
I never had the need for multiple vaults and 1Password is working fine for me on iOS 17. I love that I can use 1Password on both my Apple and Windows products. I don't mind the subscription.
100% what this guy said, he nailed it. iOS is less secure by a country mile in this regard.
I actually quite like 1Password and feel ok paying for something as important as security.
Yep. And let's also remember there are things like white noise or weather apps that somehow want to charge $60/year at this point. By contrast, 1Password is being actively updated to respond to threats and stay compatible with ever-changing websites. I'm fine budgeting for that.
I've used 1P for many years and v8 is the first version where I think they dropped the ball. I always felt like they were the kind of young company that "got it" and I was happy to support them. I still have a family subscription but will stick with v7 for as long as possible.
This, needing a vault for more than just login credentials, is a big part of my reluctance. For some other types, one could use secure notes but, I think, that would feel disjointed/clunky:
Secure features in the Notes app
The Notes app includes a secure notes feature—on iPhone, iPad, Mac, and the iCloud website—that allows users to protect the contents of specific notes. Users can also securely share notes with others.
support.apple.com
I have been resisting the subscription model as long/much as possible. However, it’s a futile battle and this is probably one of the few worth a regular, ongoing expense.
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I give it a year or two before Apple releases some sort of sherlocked Apple Passwords app and attaches extra features to it as part of iCloud+ subscription.
It works but I'm very much not wanting to put all my eggs in one basket here. I'm going to stick with 1Password for the foreseeable future. To each their own but I don't want Apple controlling absolutely everything, as there close as it is.
Apple is like the friendly and kind relative of Google that always invites you over and treats you real well. Before you know it, you’re there all the time and they have everything on you. Lol. You’re absolutely right.
I’m the same way. I like using cross platform apps also, this way I can use any device I want too.
Build a shortcut that you can add to your Home Screen, have it prompt you to choose logins or other credentials, which will take you to either app.
Pretty much the same. I was a 1P user before they bungled the subscription transition. Found Bitwarden and migrated to it. It’s actually worked better for me and hasn’t lost data in a single secure note that I’ve edited (1P sometimes wouldn’t sync and I’d lose any changes periodically). Now that Apple keychain/Passwords has gotten much better and added passkeys I’ve been using it primarily for logins and Bitwarden as a backup/secure note saver/non-Apple password manager.
Personally, I can’t wait till passkeys are the primary login way. They’re so fast and easy. Come on work services and integrate already! 😂
I've been using 1Password since the first version. For years, I synced my devices manually, partly because of restrictions on my office computer. I also resisted switching to the subscription model, but eventually gave in a few years ago when I set up a family account. Like many other posters, I use 1PW for much more than passwords, including storing pics of driver licenses, passports, and other credentials. The ability to keep separate vaults for items only relevant to me and shared with my wife synced across several computers and phones is well worth the $60 annual cost to me.
I get why subscriptions are often unpopular. But I have no choice for some of my software, like Adobe. For others, like Quicken, the model lets the developer release regular updates with new features and more reliable connectivity to financial institutions.
If Apple ever provides a single app that does everything 1Password does, I'll consider changing, but I don't think that will happen.
I get why subscriptions are often unpopular. But I have no choice for some of my software, like Adobe. For others, like Quicken, the model lets the developer release regular updates with new features and more reliable connectivity to financial institutions.
If Apple ever provides a single app that does everything 1Password does, I'll consider changing, but I don't think that will happen.
Bitwarden looks absolutely ugly. The password manager is one of the apps I use the most, and it has to look nice.
I don't mind paying for the 1Password subscription: it's a very nicely made app, with all the platforms I need, and it gets frequent updates. They are always first in class, and for what they offer it's actually cheap. 100% worth it.
I don't mind paying for the 1Password subscription: it's a very nicely made app, with all the platforms I need, and it gets frequent updates. They are always first in class, and for what they offer it's actually cheap. 100% worth it.
100% agree that it is butt ugly. But 99% of my password manager usage (which is frequent) is autofill, where I'm not looking at the client UI.
You also want to consider using another password manager strictly as a backup, should 1Password ever be inaccessible and you need to access accounts.
Yea I'm still on V7 as well. I hearing so many things about V8 that ill just wait. hopefully iCloud get better where I dont need 1pw