is a new architecture only for the mac platform...and A12Z started it and it is fine and better than any 5-10W Intel based pc
And yes, return policy is so great that you/he/i dont risk anything,maybe just some 2-3 days lost from our time
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And yes, return policy is so great that you/he/i dont risk anything,maybe just some 2-3 days lost from our time
That's why it's best to wait for the second generation of the redesign if you want a safer bet.
Keep in mind the current Intel MBP 2020 models are basically the final and most refined version of the 2016-2020 lineup.
Keep in mind the current Intel MBP 2020 models are basically the final and most refined version of the 2016-2020 lineup.
To put in perspective based on the perf/w from the mac mini A12z
Current intel macbooks, they have in general, real life between 8-10 hours light usage battery life, but under heavy load you are down to 3 or 4 max battery life
With the power consume from the A12z the battery life on an macbook pro 13" could be around 13-14 hours but the difference gap between heavy usage and light usage gap is far better in the sense that with the light usage you have 13-14 battery life, and under heavy usage you can get up to 7-8(so double) hours and thats is the best thing for a portable pro app usage device.
Current intel macbooks, they have in general, real life between 8-10 hours light usage battery life, but under heavy load you are down to 3 or 4 max battery life
With the power consume from the A12z the battery life on an macbook pro 13" could be around 13-14 hours but the difference gap between heavy usage and light usage gap is far better in the sense that with the light usage you have 13-14 battery life, and under heavy usage you can get up to 7-8(so double) hours and thats is the best thing for a portable pro app usage device.
Yes, same thing i told him and that why is better no to wait until "The "real" arm macbooks will come next year with redesign."
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We have literally no idea whatsoever what the battery life is under load. We can speculate on that but there are no real life numbers yet. They've projected life when browsing and watching videos but that is not a real life estimation.
I am sure it will be better than current MBs under load, but with how much is yet to be seen.
Seriously, wait for benchmarks and then we can all discuss the actual numbers.
I am sure it will be better than current MBs under load, but with how much is yet to be seen.
Seriously, wait for benchmarks and then we can all discuss the actual numbers.
I will wait, better i will test it for my self the mbp when arrives..but this is not an new architecture we have it for severl months and we could test how much power pro apps consume
But whatever...IMO is waste of money for OP to go with Intel, if he doesnt use bootcamp
But whatever...IMO is waste of money for OP to go with Intel, if he doesnt use bootcamp
Tech Talks - Videos - Apple Developer
at 6:40 they show M1 on an game that uses both cpu and gpu....far more fluid than on an dedicated gpu like 5500M for example
Sorry for my previous post on app compatibility. It seems that in my ignorance I understood that apps needed to be ported to the new ARM architecture but from what I read this "rosetta 2" translator in Big Sur will emulate Intel for the apps. Did I get this right?
For sure both Docker and Homebrew are vital to my work and their lack in my case would be a showstopper, right?
Sorry for my previous post on app compatibility. It seems that in my ignorance I understood that apps needed to be ported to the new ARM architecture but from what I read this "rosetta 2" translator in Big Sur will emulate Intel for the apps. Did I get this right?
For sure both Docker and Homebrew are vital to my work and their lack in my case would be a showstopper, right?
I wouldn't give high hopes for Rosetta 2 working with Docker or Homebrew.
Well I should had mentioned that homebrew is not supported at the moment. Some workaround might exists, but I def would not jump on M1 bandwagon as a developer.
I don't see a ton of risk for you buying AS right from the start if that is something you want to do given this is more of a personal and novelty system (if you told me that your income depended on this system, I would be strongly inclined to say Intel.) By the time your ordered Intel version arrives, there should be early reviews on the AS systems. I'd place more emphasis on real-world task comparisons than benchmarks.
Might want to hedge your bets by getting your money back. There have been no independent verification of the marketing fluff from yesterday to confirm or deny these ARM Macs are any good. Give yourself some breathing room.
Check to see if you are in the extended return window for the Intel machine. Do you have the 2-port model that was discontinued or the 4-port model that is still being sold. Note that the new Pro is limited to one external display while the outgoing model and the remaining 4-port model supports 2 external monitors.
Don't let people on the internet make your decision for you, but I would personally definitely send the Intel MBP back.
If OP felt this way, they wouldn't literally ask people on the internet to help them with this decision. ?
I ordered the four port model with maxed out cpu (the i7). It is due to arrive on Monday, I need to check the return policy, but the website suggests that I have until 8 Jan 21.
I will keep the closed box around and hope for cinebench results (or anything else that does a longer test) to show up. But we know that the thermal properties of the intel mbps are not optimal.
At the moment I tend to return it and wait for the replacements of the four port models.
I will keep the closed box around and hope for cinebench results (or anything else that does a longer test) to show up. But we know that the thermal properties of the intel mbps are not optimal.
At the moment I tend to return it and wait for the replacements of the four port models.
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Depends on the package: https://github.com/Homebrew/brew/issues/7857
- ?brew install -s succeeds on Apple Silicon. The software works well enough natively.
- ? The formula has been updated with depends_on :arch => [:x86_64, :build]. The software works well enough on Rosetta.
- ? The formula has known issues on macOS 11, though most features work. The issues are described in the Comments field.
- ? The formula has been updated with depends_on :arch => :x86_64. The software has been deemed to work on Intel only (for now).
- ⚠️ The formula has been found to need more analysis/work.
Well, I’m long past any return window for my intel 16 inch Pro but I am seriously thinking about using Apple’s trade in offer for the new 13 inch. Yes, the screen is smaller but those benchmarks are too good to ignore. And the stated battery life, even if it’s not what Apple claims, is still likely to be impressive.
This is a tough decision for me but I’m leaning towards a trade in. This things just blow the intel models away from what we are seeing so far.
This is a tough decision for me but I’m leaning towards a trade in. This things just blow the intel models away from what we are seeing so far.
wait, did I miss that bit at the announcement Tuesday where they demoed side-by-side an Intel MBP against an AS MBP, running the same x86 application?
no, because they didn't do it. people here are being very optimistic. ?
I would expect a bit of a battery life bump and some improvement with native apps on ARM, but otherwise a wash. they're starting with entry-level Macs now and keeping Intel around for a couple more years for a reason.
For real world use the M1 CPU is maybe about on par with the 16". Battery life is an upgrade. Everything else (RAM and GPU) is a downgrade. Posts like these make me think you're just chasing the latest gadget. And if that's so, I'd for sure wait until the redesign next year because the new 14" form factor with another iteration of chip is going to make these old M1 designed laptops look vintage.
What is the harm in waiting for some real world reviews. Are you using your MBP to get real work done? If so, are you absolutely certain the applications you need will work ok on the M1 MBP?
Yes. Lightroom is supposed to be highly optimized for this new line.
I’ll likely wait a little bit to see some real world examples. But overall I was expecting modest gains in performance and battery life. I figured that would be it. Not the case from these early benchmarks.
I also use my MacBook for my day job in addition my photography. But any modern laptop can swing that. It’s used a lot each day doing double duty.
My Pro nearly melts when doing uploads of raw files to edit in Lightroom. Sometimes I have a few hundred, sometimes well north of 1k.
I realize that it’s a task but I expected it to hold up better. It gets externally hot and sluggish. The battery also drains insanely fast so using it on the road is not all it’s cracked up to be. I’m hoping these M1 Pros and will chug along better with that.
On a side note, I have found the iPad Pro to be a joy to use for Lightroom much to my surprise. But that’s not really there yet as an all in one solution for me.
I’m sure the apple store on 5th ave will have some on display in the next few days. I’ll check it out and see how I feel overall about it.
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