Seriously considering a Surface Pro 3

[mentaluproar]

Are we talking about that loop for the stylus? I would have to agree. That was clearly an afterthought. I've seen promotional materials where the stylus is clipped onto that crease on the side. The problem with that is when you unfold the keyboard, it interferes with it folding out.

That loop is a great way to completely trash an otherwise beautiful looking product.

 

[mentaluproar]

To clarify, I went through 2 Surfaces because the first overheated doing a system restore. Not a good sign and the nice tech lady set up an appointment for a replacement at the Microsoft store, which was fast and simple. I really am impressed with their store.

Now that I have my note 10.1, I have to say I hate this thing, but it is more practical for me. Onenote is still the best note-taking app I can find, but the android version doesn't allow selecting and moving objects or resizing text boxes. The stylus is better because it stows away inside the tablet and the tip offers just a slight bit of resistance, making writing and drawing diagrams much easier. The handwriting recognition was better on the Surface, but the note comes pretty close. Battery life is great and an update resolved the slow-charging issue. The device is android though, and even after flashing to hyperdrive it is laggy and obnoxious. The spit screen was far better on the Surface. The note is easier to hold though, and in portrait mode, the keyboard is MUCH easier to use. I do not care for the placement of the buttons and forcing me to use the device in landscape. Where I would bump the start button (which was pointless as the charms bar has that button anyway) on the Surface while drawing, I am constantly hitting the touch keys on my note 10.1 when just typing! It is infuriating! As much as I want to get the Surface again, this device is still the best for me. Maybe the Surface Pro 4 will address these issues. If it does, I WILL do this again.

I am afraid of Windows 9 throwing all of it away and Microsoft abandoning the Surface line. I really wish I could submit this thread to Microsoft so they could see this.

 

[Bromio]

I am afraid of Windows 9 throwing all of it away and Microsoft abandoning the Surface line. I really wish I could submit this thread to Microsoft so they could see this.

Why could Windows 9 have that effect? As I read, Surface Pro 3 is selling well.

 

[mentaluproar]

Windows 8 was such a failure, I worry windows 9 will be an about-face, which would hurt the surface line.

 

[Bromio]

Windows 8 was such a failure, I worry windows 9 will be an about-face, which would hurt the surface line.

Many people understood Windows 8 as a failure, but I think it "simply" broke the antique Windows guideline. Rumors show a Windows 9 returning to that old style, but it also includes Modern UI. At least, I hope so. I'm certainly considering a Surface Pro 3.

In fact, there is not such a powerful/useful device in the market nowadays. In the future, it would be even more amazing.

 

[mrex]

win8 felt odd atfirst, but then after couple of weeks, it feels the same as previous versions... i run win8.1 now, and using the desktop view all the time anyway...

 

[Bromio]

win8 felt odd atfirst, but then after couple of weeks, it feels the same as previous versions... i run win8.1 now, and using the desktop view all the time anyway...

In fact, I think in a laptop/desktop, the user hardly needs Modern UI. The rumored Start Menu in Windows 9 could fully hide the "tablet traits" to those user who don't need a tablet.

I think desktop and tablet ecosystems can inhabit the same operating system and turn on and off depending on user necessities each moment.

If Windows 9 exploits these characteristics, making a more desktop-like desktop and a more tablet-like Modern UI, it will strengthen the existence of devices such as Surface Pro. Incoming Broadwell processors could even give more sense to these wonderful machines.

 

[spinedoc77]

In fact, I think in a laptop/desktop, the user hardly needs Modern UI. The rumored Start Menu in Windows 9 could fully hide the "tablet traits" to those user who don't need a tablet.

I think desktop and tablet ecosystems can inhabit the same operating system and turn on and off depending on user necessities each moment.

If Windows 9 exploits these characteristics, making a more desktop-like desktop and a more tablet-like Modern UI, it will strengthen the existence of devices such as Surface Pro. Incoming Broadwell processors could even give more sense to these wonderful machines.

Windows 9 will split up the tablet and desktop interfaces. Desktops and larger tablets will be desktop driven, and the start screen will be in the start menu, activated with the returning start button. The charms bar is going away as well.

I think W9 is going to be a big hit. We will know a lot more in 2 days when they unveil it.

 

[Bromio]

Windows 9 will split up the tablet and desktop interfaces. Desktops and larger tablets will be desktop driven, and the start screen will be in the start menu, activated with the returning start button. The charms bar is going away as well.

And that's absolutely coherent. If the Surface has its keyboard connected, it's logical that it behaves like a laptop, desktop driven. If you remove the keyboard, then it becomes a full tablet, with the start screen. Would it not be amazing?

 

[spinedoc77]

And that's absolutely coherent. If the Surface has its keyboard connected, it's logical that it behaves like a laptop, desktop driven. If you remove the keyboard, then it becomes a full tablet, with the start screen. Would it not be amazing?

Well I never thought it was rocket science to function within Windows 8 and take the 2 minutes to learn when you should use the desktop versus Metro. The only thing I absolutely hated about Windows 8 was the lack of folders in the start screen, it made NO sense at all. The old start menu had folders so you could very easily organize your program links. The start screen just had hundreds of programs/apps/shortcuts/configurations, etc. splayed out, just terrible. This may still be an issue depending on how they configure the start screen which will be inside the new but old start menu.

 

[Bromio]

Well I never thought it was rocket science to function within Windows 8 and take the 2 minutes to learn when you should use the desktop versus Metro. The only thing I absolutely hated about Windows 8 was the lack of folders in the start screen, it made NO sense at all. The old start menu had folders so you could very easily organize your program links. The start screen just had hundreds of programs/apps/shortcuts/configurations, etc. splayed out, just terrible. This may still be an issue depending on how they configure the start screen which will be inside the new but old start menu.

I agree. I just say that more separation between the desktop and Metro is welcome, because a desktop user may not want those Metro capabilities and vice versa, even though both ways of working are within the system.

I'm talking about full usage of the desktop without taking into account Metro if you don't want to, and full usage of Metro if you don't need desktop characteristics. I guess that's, more or less, what you are requesting.