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3nm

macrumors 6502a
Jul 30, 2006
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I have read all the major Mac user forums and have discovered that a majority of people posting on them have hardware problems
- therefore it is pretty obviously that Apple does not care about quality control

ummmmm... by your logic, if you walked into a mental health facility, everyone on earth must be mentally challenged then...
 

mrgreen4242

macrumors 601
Feb 10, 2004
4,377
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I realize you all think this is a humorous thread, but... I keep on hearing people talk about big corporations. Anytime people complain about corporations that are just in it for the money I wish they would realize that they also have jobs, they also are trying to make money. If there is a level of success at which it suddenly is no longer morally or socially acceptable to make money, then someone inform me of where that level is so I can be sure that if and when I cross it I can adjust my behavior to be in accordance with the expectations of the head of an evil empire.

Well, I work for a non-profit and I could definitely make more doing what I do elsewhere, but I chose to work here because I feel like I am doing something important and that has a greater benefit to society than just my coming to work would have.

For the record, I don't make very much at all, just above the median income for my area (which is mid-Michigan, which has the worst economy in the country). But, I like what I do and as I said I believe in the cause that I work for. I don't expect everyone to think that way, and I don't expect corporations to either.

I do think that Apple would PROBABLY make more money by lowering margins and selling more units, but I'm not in the computer selling business (though I do deal with these sort of questions in my work, so I have some frame of experience with profit maximization).
 

GanleyBurger

macrumors regular
Feb 25, 2007
242
0
but seriously folks...

But seriously folks...

Try spending 2 hours on the phone with Dell's tech support in India, trying to get a $15 part for your wife's PC laptop, being bounced between three or four people who end up overcharging you because of thier back-ass-wards internal communications....

I'll pay anything for a Mac and the Apple Care plan...:)
 

Mr. MacBook

macrumors 6502
Feb 28, 2007
337
0
You mean you saw a piece of paper with a xserve picture on it, you microwaved it and said it was hot and returned it to the garbage can you were digging through because your mom doesent feed you?
 

harveypooka

macrumors 65816
Feb 24, 2004
1,291
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But seriously folks...

Try spending 2 hours on the phone with Dell's tech support in India, trying to get a $15 part for your wife's PC laptop, being bounced between three or four people who end up overcharging you because of thier back-ass-wards internal communications....

I'll pay anything for a Mac and the Apple Care plan...:)

"Although many people have asked for pre-installed Linux, and Dell seems to have listened, some still think that buying a naked PC won't be easy. But what about stripping it naked after you buy it? I managed to get Windows Vista (and a bit more) refunded from Dell Germany last week. The process was surprisingly simple: 1) After delivery, ask Dell Support for refund by email. 2) ??? 3) Refund!!! Read the full email conversation in the original German or my English translation. For the impatient reader: The refund is €77.54 for Windows Vista Home Basic plus Works 8.0 (that is 15% of the total amount I paid). The whole process took 2 emails, 2 more to say thank you, and less than 48 hours. The money is already in my account. Kudos to Dell Customer Care (esp. 'Veronika') for being efficient and customer-oriented!"

:D

http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/03/25/1944209&from=rss
 

Superlat

macrumors member
Feb 17, 2006
39
0
Seattle
I am not a troll or a paid poster, you sir, are a CAD

OK,

I made a post about Apple becoming a tool, and this guy obviously agrees with me. I've been using macs since 1994, and I've hated wintel machines, and barely used any, although I have noticed that they run Fruity Loops, Combustion and Autodesk software, including Autocadd, which my gf uses professionally, so they do have some use. No, I didnt want to troubleshoot a PC, lord no, but for people that want to ignore their computers instead of troubleshoot them, Apple has started to get a rep thats quite a bit short from the bulletproof hardware they used to make (minus a couple clunkers in between).

You're right, I consider my purchases a little too carefully, my mommy isn't buying it for me. This new platform is far from perfect. I didn't say it was useless. Some of the things about the new laptop are genius, like the keyboard and the power cord especially. Hallelujah! But why does this laptop of my friend's start cooking when I'm encoding a DVD? Well, that's the modern world, ok. But I've seen some graphics anomalies that really make me wonder. OK, its not the end of the world like it was last spring with the rev A laptops, but the complaints I've read, hoo boy. I guess if i had just jumped in last spring and been really jacked, I should just take it and buy another computer a year later at my cost. Yeah, ok. I got a subprime loan to get you into.
Funny how I even find reports of MacPros not doing what they're supposed to. And lets not talk about the video ipod I almost bought until I read it really didnt actually do what it claimed.

And to the genius who thinks I"m paid by MS, take off your dork helmet and look in the mirror to find the guy who's taking the pay-offs. "MS trolls are SO easily detected..blah blah blah" Wow, you really should not start a career as a psychic. Thanks, though, do you really think I could get paid to do this?

Mac users were by definition muckrakers, look that up in a dictionary, they didnt walk lockstep. I'll still buy a mac, but I can still harass the company to make one I want. I can render, edit, multitrack audio, and photo illustrate all on a second high-end G4 for $500 until they get their new hardware right.
With ZERO graphics anamolies, and no beach balls spinning endlessly. I guess the beach ball spinning endlessly is better than the computer just crashing.
Actually not its not. And, yes, I do know how to relaunch and quit out of a program in OSX. That was impressive until the beachball phantom reappears at very unpredictable times to just sit there and tell me nothing. At least old OS9 crashes actually were coded.

And with a used machine, I dont need to buy $2500 in new software. But I guess if I want to run Second Life and pay real money for a pixelated naked chick instead of a real one, I know the machine to get.

Cretins.
 

dartzorichalcos

macrumors 65816
Mar 23, 2007
1,010
0
Atlantis
used Macs for over 20 yrs
Don't care
- use PCs at work
Who cares
- power user with some apps
I don't care
- complete novice with other apps
Who cares
Current needs
- portablity BUT with workstation power
12" PowerBook G4
- use Final Cut Studio to edit home movies
iMovie is fine for that
- use OpenOffice because it is free
That's nice
- whole lot of obsure PC programs that I must use
nice to know
- overall I am very knowledgable in the my specific needs
nice to know
- BUT I have a unwavering opinion on everyone's else needs
don't care
MY ISSUES
1. Price
- when you compare the price of PC against equivalent Mac, they are always different, some more expensive, some less, BUT NEVER THE SAME PRICE!
Macs are better
- Apple say it is because Macs are a different color and the logo's are hand built, BUT that is rubbish
It's unique
- so why dont Apple make cheaper machines in every category? because they just want to make money, makes me sick
Check Refurbished Store
- I dont care that Apple bundle h/w and s/w together, because I can get a PC with Vista and it is the same
Who cares about Vista
- well except all the PC s/w works differently and is not integrated - but that is a training issue only
don't care
- PC apps are the same as OSX apps (eg. Photoshop), sure the UI is different, but apart from that they are the same - so why do I need OSX?
No viruses
3. Historical comparison
- it is pretty obvious that you can still run OSX on PPC hardware that in many cases is more cost effective than buying a new machine
Unless you need to run PPC only apps
- therefore all new Apple Intel machines are a ripoff because they cost more and there are some bugs that my friend's friend has experienced
Intel Macs are just as reliable as PPC Macs
4. Reliability
- I have read all the major Mac user forums and have discovered that a majority of people posting on them have hardware problems
- therefore it is pretty obviously that Apple does not care about quality control
Apple cares and Apple fixed these problems now
- people (mainly in the US where return policy is very liberal) have returYou must have Xserve G4s which were noisys of faulty machines
Apple will fix them
- I myself have returned 10 XSERVES because they are so f***ing NOISY
Who cares as long as they work
So Apple WAKEUP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!
Apple doesn't need to wake up and Apple is good the way it is
Or pretty soon you WILL lose all your valuable Mac forum posters ... it would number in the thousands. Think about that all that lose revenue.
They will get more posters. It will always increase not decrease.
We just want to be able to run Final Cut Extreme on a Mac Mini with a 42" monitor for under $1000, is that too much to ask?
If you can run Final Cut Pro on a Mac Mini, you should be able to run Final Cut Extreme on any Mac Mini, doesn't matter if it's Intel or PPC.
 

skinnylegs

macrumors 65816
May 8, 2006
1,427
11
San Diego
I love how people still think this is serious.
Am I missing something here? I think dude's post *was* intended to be taken seriously. Well, aside from the Mac Mini with the 42" monitor but I thought maybe he meant 24" and that was a typo.
 

Cybergypsy

macrumors 68040
May 16, 2006
3,094
0
Central Florida!
First: I am not a troll.

Computing background
- used Macs for over 20 yrs
- use PCs at work
- power user with some apps
- complete novice with other apps

Current needs
- portablity BUT with workstation power
- use Final Cut Studio to edit home movies
- use OpenOffice because it is free
- whole lot of obsure PC programs that I must use
- overall I am very knowledgable in the my specific needs
- BUT I have a unwavering opinion on everyone's else needs

MY ISSUES
1. Price
- when you compare the price of PC against equivalent Mac, they are always different, some more expensive, some less, BUT NEVER THE SAME PRICE!
- Apple say it is because Macs are a different color and the logo's are hand built, BUT that is rubbish
- so why dont Apple make cheaper machines in every category? because they just want to make money, makes me sick

2. Software
- I dont care that Apple bundle h/w and s/w together, because I can get a PC with Vista and it is the same
- well except all the PC s/w works differently and is not integrated - but that is a training issue only
- PC apps are the same as OSX apps (eg. Photoshop), sure the UI is different, but apart from that they are the same - so why do I need OSX?

3. Historical comparison
- it is pretty obvious that you can still run OSX on PPC hardware that in many cases is more cost effective than buying a new machine
- therefore all new Apple Intel machines are a ripoff because they cost more and there are some bugs that my friend's friend has experienced

4. Reliability
- I have read all the major Mac user forums and have discovered that a majority of people posting on them have hardware problems
- therefore it is pretty obviously that Apple does not care about quality control
- people (mainly in the US where return policy is very liberal) have returned dozens of faulty machines
- I myself have returned 10 XSERVES because they are so f***ing NOISY

So Apple WAKEUP AND SMELL THE COFFEE!
Or pretty soon you WILL lose all your valuable Mac forum posters ... it would number in the thousands. Think about that all that lose revenue.

We just want to be able to run Final Cut Extreme on a Mac Mini with a 42" monitor for under $1000, is that too much to ask?


I happen to Agree!
My last 4 macs were crap, Plain and simple, I had to go back to a PC due to Apples QC...or lack of......

I will not buy another until the builds get better, 4 macs..over 6K,,,,all new and bought from Apple...:(
 

jsw

Moderator emeritus
Mar 16, 2004
22,910
44
Andover, MA
Anyone who reads the first post and cannot see that it's sarcastic (good grief, isn't "when you compare the price of PC against equivalent Mac, they are always different, some more expensive, some less, BUT NEVER THE SAME PRICE!" clue enough???) needs to have their sense of humor examined.

I have to laugh, especially as someone who has made similar posts. As that thread went on, I added more and more disclaimers, and people still thought I was serious. Same here. I can almost guarantee two things: (1) someone will post after this, not having read the thread, and say the OP is a troll or otherwise argue with him; and (2) someone will disagree with me and say that the OP was clearly being serious.

peter24: thanks for the (ongoing) laugh. I like your work. :)
 

mrgreen4242

macrumors 601
Feb 10, 2004
4,377
9
Am I missing something here? I think dude's post *was* intended to be taken seriously. Well, aside from the Mac Mini with the 42" monitor but I thought maybe he meant 24" and that was a typo.

It's almost certainly a joke. The mini does support 24" monitors, and actually would support any 42" flatscreen that had DVI/HDMI input since there are no, to my knowledge, 42" displays that aren't either 720p or 1080p, which both have resolutions the mini will drive.
 

jsw

Moderator emeritus
Mar 16, 2004
22,910
44
Andover, MA
Ah, the first of my predictions a mere couple of posts up has come true, even sooner than I thought it would.
 

calculus

Guest
Dec 12, 2005
4,504
5
Ah, the first of my predictions a mere couple of posts up has come true, even sooner than I thought it would.

I'm sure that there is more to come...

If only people would actually read posts instead of picking up on a few words and constructing their own story - it kind of reminds me of those awful automated email replies you get that totally miss the point of your enquiry!
 

Mr Skills

macrumors 6502a
Nov 21, 2005
803
1
I think MR should have a policy of introducing this kind of post once a month, as a test. Anyone who persists in taking it seriously after the joke has been pointed out, gets banned from the political forums or anywhere they might do damage :p :D



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skinnylegs

macrumors 65816
May 8, 2006
1,427
11
San Diego
Anyone who reads the first post and cannot see that it's sarcastic (good grief, isn't "when you compare the price of PC against equivalent Mac, they are always different, some more expensive, some less, BUT NEVER THE SAME PRICE!" clue enough???) needs to have their sense of humor examined.

I have to laugh, especially as someone who has made similar posts. As that thread went on, I added more and more disclaimers, and people still thought I was serious. Same here. I can almost guarantee two things: (1) someone will post after this, not having read the thread, and say the OP is a troll or otherwise argue with him; and (2) someone will disagree with me and say that the OP was clearly being serious.

peter24: thanks for the (ongoing) laugh. I like your work.
I suppose it's not a good idea to argue with a "Demi-God (moderator)" but here goes anyway.....

Allow me to preface myself by saying that I a pretty bright guy with a good sense of humor. I am also quite capable of both delivering and discerning sarcasm.

Yes....*you* added disclaimers but what value are they? Until such time as the *OP* makes his intentions clear, it remains up for debate. So how about it, Pete.....'wanna come back and visit us? :D

I have been around forums for quite a few years and it never ceases to amaze me what people write. I will admit that the 42" monitor threw me a curve but given dude's horrendous use of grammar and/or numerous typo's it is entirely possible that 42" may have been an error.

BTW.....if you haven't already figured it out, I am also more than capable of beating something into the ground after it has already been repeatedly beaten into the ground. :p
 
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