Seriously starting to become a joke, where are the M1 Mac iOS, iPadOS apps.

[Fred Zed]

The four greatest words in the English language are:

I told you so......

Those of us that have been involved with software development told the "True Believers" that they weren't going to get all of those apps immediately. And of course, we were shouted down for pointing out the obvious.

Don't expect to see your favorite iOS or iPad apps for at least a year or so. Apple is at the chicken and egg point right now. Software development is a multi-year process, and it is unrealistic to expect any software house to just drop what they are doing to enable their iFart app to run on the M1. Even moreso now that Apple no longer releases how many macs they sell per quarter. It isn't personal, it is business.

AFA Rosetta 2 - don't be surprised if the last OS that runs it stays on a fairly significant number of machines long after Apple removes it from MacOS. About 25% of the Mac user base hung onto 10.6.8 long after 10.8 was replaced. I didn't replace it until the release of 10.12. (Thanks Adobe!).

What was first greatest words?
Not my fault?

 

[Maconplasma]

Here's the problem with your statement. The decision over which platforms to support is entirely the developer's choice, it is NOT something that you or Apple have the right to dictate the terms to.

Uh noooo! I dictate what my wallet spends money on. If a developer wants to be lazy then let them be. There will always be another developer making a competing app. Understand something, customers vote with their wallets. Developers don't call shots around here nor do they control my computing life. Get that straight!

Some developers (especially those with very limited resources, of which there are many) can not afford to rush out and buy an M1 Mac, especially in the middle of a global pandemic where other sources of income may be few and far between.

That's on them. Just like any entrepreneur there's a cost of doing business. It's weird that you are defending developers when you have no idea what software I want or need and you have no idea if the software I want and need comes from a wealthy developer. There are plenty of wealthy developers out there. They don't need you to defend them. Pretty ridiculous.

Not all iOS/iPad OS apps will translate well to Mac OS, especially those which rely on GPS (i.e. Pokemon Go) or the gyroscopic sensors because the Mac does not support those types of devices.

Excuses.

Furthermore a touch-heavy interface for an app will not translate to Mac OS well because of the lack of touchscreen support within the OS. You "might" be able to connect a Wacom touchscreen tablet (such as the Cintiq series or Wacom One) and use that to replicate an iOS screen, but that is an expensive workaround to use certain iOS/iPad OS apps on your Mac as intended by the developers.

And the problem with your statement is you're suggesting that the Mac is an insignificant computer and ONLY IF a developer FEELS LIKE making an app for the Mac is when it MAY happen. Good Lord! ?

 

[gank41]

Uh noooo! I dictate what my wallet spends money on. If a developer wants to be lazy then let them be. There will always be another developer making a competing app. Understand something, customers vote with their wallets. Developers don't call shots around here nor do they control my computing life. Get that straight!

That's on them. Just like any entrepreneur there's a cost of doing business. It's weird that you are defending developers when you have no idea what software I want or need and you have no idea if the software I want and need comes from a wealthy developer. There are plenty of wealthy developers out there. They don't need you to defend them. Pretty ridiculous.

Excuses.

And the problem with your statement is you're suggesting that the Mac is an insignificant computer and ONLY IF a developer FEELS LIKE making an app for the Mac is when it MAY happen. Good Lord! ?

Good Lord is right! Seems like no matter what anyone says logically, you’ll still reply with some opposing illogical response! Gimme gimme gimme! Geesh

 

[Maconplasma]

Good Lord is right! Seems like no matter what anyone says logically, you’ll still reply with some opposing illogical response! Gimme gimme gimme! Geesh

Oh god forbid I state my feelings on the matter. And the posters here (which I'm sure are some developers) are on their high horse telling me that they are calling the shots in terms of apps I use on MY Mac. They don't have that power. Not a single bit of logic comes from any of you people. Move on to someone else please. I don't wish to continue a conversation with you. ?

 

[gank41]

“Not a single bit of logic comes from any of you people” is the funniest thing I’ve read from any of your posts. That’s rich ?

 

[sracer]

Oh god forbid I state my feelings on the matter. And the posters here (which I'm sure are some developers) are on their high horse telling me that they are calling the shots in terms of apps I use on MY Mac. They don't have that power. Not a single bit of logic comes from any of you people. Move on to someone else please. I don't wish to continue a conversation with you. ?

I bolded the important part. I appreciate that you are expressing your feelings and not trying to masquerade feelings as facts.

It is a bit difficult to sift through the static and noise of this thread, but are there reasons why iPad OS and iOS apps on M1 Macs are important to you (beyond simply wanting them)?

 

[gank41]

I bolded the important part. I appreciate that you are expressing your feelings and not trying to masquerade feelings as facts. View attachment 1733636

It is a bit difficult to sift through the static and noise of this thread, but are there reasons why iPad OS and iOS apps on M1 Macs important to you (beyond simply wanted them)?

Maybe sifting thru that static and noise will bring you up to speed on why I posted what I did. And the others.

Feelings are funny things. I feel like I should also be given a million dollars, but I feel like that won’t happen.

 

[Maconplasma]

I bolded the important part. I appreciate that you are expressing your feelings and not trying to masquerade feelings as facts. View attachment 1733636

It is a bit difficult to sift through the static and noise of this thread, but are there reasons why iPad OS and iOS apps on M1 Macs are important to you (beyond simply wanting them)?

Well firstly I'm not the OP who started this thread, but he has a point. Apple put the option out there so obviously the Mac is capable of running iPad OS apps. It's the defiant attitude of some developers here that pretend to control this situation. For years the Mac has been behind Windows simply due to lack of applications and market penetration. To have the attitude not to create more apps is inadvertently trying to keep the Mac behind.

The reason I stated my "feelings" on the matter is because no developer here will dictate what I run on my Mac and some people here think they can control this. They are 100% powerless because there will always be another developer that will make a competing application and perhaps better than the developers on this forum.

 

[sracer]

Well firstly I'm not the OP who started this thread, but he has a point. Apple put the option out there so obviously the Mac is capable of running iPad OS apps. It's the defiant attitude of some developers here that pretend to control this situation. For years the Mac has been behind Windows simply due to lack of applications and market penetration. To have the attitude not to create more apps is inadvertently trying to keep the Mac behind.

The reason I stated my "feelings" on the matter is because no developer here will dictate what I run on my Mac and some people here think they can control this. They are 100% powerless because there will always be another developer that will make a competing application and perhaps better than the developers on this forum.

That's interesting... because Apple's use of the M1 increases the likelihood that they (Apple) WILL control what you can run on your Mac.

 

[Maconplasma]

That's interesting... because Apple's use of the M1 increases the likelihood that they (Apple) WILL control what you can run on your Mac.

Well it is what it is when it comes to Apple. That's not the issue. It's the high horse attitude of people here saying, "I as a developer will make a Mac app if I decide to and that's your problem if you don't like it". It's really the developer's problem. In an entrepreneurial business it's not to the advantage of a developer to have a dictatorship attitude. No worries though like I said there will always be another developer with a competing app. That's competition and there's plenty of it. If developers here no longer want to develop for the Mac that will not be my problem, it's theirs.

 

[gank41]

Well it is what it is when it comes to Apple. That's not the issue. It's the high horse attitude of people here saying, "I as a developer will make a Mac app if I decide to and that's your problem if you don't like it". It's really the developer's problem. In an entrepreneurial business it's not to the advantage of a developer to have a dictatorship attitude. No worries though like I said there will always be another developer with a competing app. That's competition and there's plenty of it. If developers here no longer want to develop for the Mac that will not be my problem, it's theirs.

No longer develop for the Mac? This whole thing is about iPhone & iPad apps that you’re expecting to “just work” for the Mac out of the box. Apps from developers that may have NEVER developed apps for the Mac before. Ever. But suuuuuuurre, blame the developers on their “high horse” for not developing their app to work in a totally new architecture. ?

 

[Rafterman]

I bolded the important part. I appreciate that you are expressing your feelings and not trying to masquerade feelings as facts. View attachment 1733636

It is a bit difficult to sift through the static and noise of this thread, but are there reasons why iPad OS and iOS apps on M1 Macs are important to you (beyond simply wanting them)?

I can answer that. As odd as you would think, there is a larger variety of iOS apps than here are Mac apps. I can see iOS apps as filling in the spaces that a lack of a native Mac apps would.

 

[DeanL]

Is this the first time Apple ever overhyped something during the unveiling of one of their new products at an Apple Event?

...I asked my HomePod that Tim Cook said was clearly superior to all the other smart speakers.

Well it is misleading advertising. Not the first time. I already took them to court of misleading advertising...

 

[Maconplasma]

Well it is misleading advertising. Not the first time. I already took them to court of misleading advertising...

LMAO you took Apple to court over misleading advertising? You might as well take every company on the earth to court based on that.

 

[DeanL]

LMAO you took Apple to court over misleading advertising? You might as well take every company on the earth to court based on that.

I did because they were stubborn and didn't want to admit they messed up lol, but they did end up changing the wording after that so it is a win.

I agree with OP that this is ridiculous. Apple clearly touts the M1 as being able to run iOS/iPadOS apps and claims that we can run our favourite apps but the Mac App Store is a desert of iOS apps and now Apple blocks the side-loading. If at least they had not blocked the side-loading...

 

[dmccloud]

Uh noooo! I dictate what my wallet spends money on. If a developer wants to be lazy then let them be. There will always be another developer making a competing app. Understand something, customers vote with their wallets. Developers don't call shots around here nor do they control my computing life. Get that straight!

That's on them. Just like any entrepreneur there's a cost of doing business. It's weird that you are defending developers when you have no idea what software I want or need and you have no idea if the software I want and need comes from a wealthy developer. There are plenty of wealthy developers out there. They don't need you to defend them. Pretty ridiculous.

Excuses.

And the problem with your statement is you're suggesting that the Mac is an insignificant computer and ONLY IF a developer FEELS LIKE making an app for the Mac is when it MAY happen. Good Lord! ?

You like to make up crap other posters say, don't you? Not all developers have big bank accounts, unlimited (or at least a big pool of) resources to work with, or the staff to recode existing apps to take advantage of Mac OS. I'm not sure why you're so fixated on the big developers (who make up a relatively small percentage of the overall developer base) to the detriment of the rest of the developers out there. You have developers who only write apps for Mac OS, others who focus on iOS/iPadOS, and then those few developers who have the resources to develop for both platforms simultaneously. I have no clue where "suggesting that the Mac is an insignificant computer" came from, unless you're just projecting your own biases on the situation.