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No...my iPad looks like a piece of art compared to the touch. Oh yeah and since I got the thing I hate small screens.
 
I was disagreeing that people need an iPhone vs and iPod. The poster was implying that the iPod Touch really has no place in the marketplace. So there are a few reasons I find that wrong.

Obviously the touch has a place in the marketplace, since it's selling well in the US. I'm just trying to figure out why.

So it's for small children, people in places with poor AT&T coverage, people already stuck in contracts, and people who prefer a feature phones (for whatever reasons) or blackberries?

Okay, I get it, but it's still an inconvenience, for me at least, to carry around a second device when all the functionality of that device can be found in a phone.

The iPad is different. The functionality of an iPad can never be found in a phone so it makes sense to carry around this second device.
 
it's still an inconvenience, for me at least, to carry around a second device when all the functionality of that device can be found in a phone.

There - right there. For you.

What else is there to say. Clearly you're not the consensus.
 
Ips panel superior in every way? Maybe, but not in any real world, big deal ways..

4th generation vs 1st generation Isnt a valid argument, especially when the iPad had been touted by Jobs as taking everything Apple has learned from the iPhone and iPod touch and improving upon it.

I'm not talking about your subjective values of these products, I'm just saying that the iPad is more money for less, monetarily and technologically.

Technologicaly less? No.

In some ways, yes. In most ways, no.

You're just trolling, completely. You can't compare items that come out later...especially with technology... Anyone who owns a computer knows this, there is a law about it.

IPS panels are completely superior for watching movies or pictures than a standard TN/TFT panel. There is no "real world" about it, both are media consumption devices. The iPad is better in every way for consuming more media than an iPod Touch. The next iPad will have Facetime, the iPad is still first generation.
 
This are two different devices! I don't see why anyone should be jealous.
 
Technologicaly less? No.

In some ways, yes. In most ways, no.

You're just trolling, completely. You can't compare items that come out later...especially with technology... Anyone who owns a computer knows this, there is a law about it.

IPS panels are completely superior for watching movies or pictures than a standard TN/TFT panel. There is no "real world" about it, both are media consumption devices. The iPad is better in every way for consuming more media than an iPod Touch. The next iPad will have Facetime, the iPad is still first generation.

I'm definitely not trolling, I'm just tying to be objective. I even said I'm probably gong to get an iPad. I personally haven't been able to notice a difference in the screens inthe store. That being said, it might change when I'm usingit daily?

I could care less about FaceTime. Thats a feature Apple left out on purpose on the first gen ipad. Jerks like you make be reconsider getting one again.
 
I'm definitely not trolling, I'm just tying to be objective. I even said I'm probably gong to get an iPad. I personally haven't been able to notice a difference in the screens inthe store. That being said, it might change when I'm usingit daily?

I could care less about FaceTime. Thats a feature Apple left out on purpose on the first gen ipad. Jerks like you make be reconsider getting one again.

Don't get an iPad if someone on an Internet forum can sway your decision.
 
I get the feeling..

I get the feeling a lot of people on this site are in denial.. It's natural for people to be upset when they make a commitment, and than a better opportunity is available..

Yes, I am jealous.

I would love a higher res screen, 2 cameras, and mic.

Haters gonna hate.
 
3.5 inch vs 9.7 inch screen. Yes, we should be jealous.

iPad = 1024-by-768-pixel resolution at 132 ppi

Height: 9.56 inches (242.8 mm)
Width: 7.47 inches (189.7 mm)

iPod = 960-by-640-pixel resolution at 326 ppi

Height: 4.4 inches (111.0 mm)
Width: 2.3 inches (58.9 mm)

Just saying =P
 
iPad = 1024-by-768-pixel resolution at 132 ppi

Height: 9.56 inches (242.8 mm)
Width: 7.47 inches (189.7 mm)

iPod = 960-by-640-pixel resolution at 326 ppi

Height: 4.4 inches (111.0 mm)
Width: 2.3 inches (58.9 mm)

Just saying =P

And? So? Therefore? :p
 
I get the feeling a lot of people on this site are in denial.. It's natural for people to be upset when they make a commitment, and than a better opportunity is available..

Yes, I am jealous.

I would love a higher res screen, 2 cameras, and mic.

Haters gonna hate.

I've been buying electronics long enough to know everything gets outdated, especially first gen devices. I EXPECT that. However, I have been enjoying my 3G iPad since day one release. :D

iPad = 1024-by-768-pixel resolution at 132 ppi

Height: 9.56 inches (242.8 mm)
Width: 7.47 inches (189.7 mm)

iPod = 960-by-640-pixel resolution at 326 ppi

Height: 4.4 inches (111.0 mm)
Width: 2.3 inches (58.9 mm)

Just saying =P

I'm not sure of your point. :confused:

Is it the ppi? If it is, so what. My 50" Panasonic plasma has a 40 ppi. Are you implying that it is inferior and that I should stop using it for a retina screen device???
 
I've been buying electronics long enough to know everything gets outdated, especially first gen devices. I EXPECT that. However, I have been enjoying my 3G iPad since day one release. :D



I'm not sure of your point. :confused:

Is it the ppi? If it is, so what. My 50" Panasonic plasma has a 40 ppi. Are you implying that it is inferior and that I should stop using it for a retina screen device???

No, I think the point is that higher PPI screens on these devices makes a huge difference. Comparing a 3GS and 4 makes this more than apparent.
 
I would love a higher res screen, 2 cameras, and mic.

Haters gonna hate.

The iPod is a LOWER resolution screen than the iPad. It is also a much smaller display. The only thing it has going for it is that it has a higher pixel density, but to be honest the fact that it is not an IPS panel kind of negates that since the viewing angles are horrible and colors are not as good.

2 cameras? WTF would someone want two cameras on an iPad? I can sorta understand having one for FaceTime, but even that would be awkward for me personally. I don't want to be looking up other peoples noses while they are trying to use FaceTime on their iPad. It will probably be in the next version despite that though.

Mic? The iPad has a microphone if you didn't already know. It also has a speaker that is WAY better than the iPod Touch. I would never ever try to watch anything on an iPod Touch. The only use of the iPod Touch in my mind is as gaming and music device for people who don't have an iPhone. Even then I feel like gaming is much better on an iPad (though no gyro yet), and so there is really no reason to buy an iPod Touch instead of an iPad.
 
In a way yes not because of features but the fact I don't have ios4 or game center . Folders is a must for me and I am not jail breaking this device at all my apps are hard to organise
 
In a way yes not because of features but the fact I don't have ios4 or game center . Folders is a must for me and I am not jail breaking this device at all my apps are hard to organise

November is when iOS 4 will be out on the iPad. Not that far away now, I am excited to get it on my iPad.
 
No, I think the point is that higher PPI screens on these devices makes a huge difference. Comparing a 3GS and 4 makes this more than apparent.

This, was my point, but I'll explain father..


PPI is only significant to how far you're viewing the device from, thus why there is a optimum seating distance for different HDTV screen sizes/resolutions.

If you're STILL not with my (God have mercy on your soul). People view iPods, iPhones, iPads, and all other type of HAND HELD (note the CAPS) devices at generally the same distance from their face. Thus, PPI's importance. There of coarse is a maximum PPI the eye can detect, which Apple has implemented into their iPhone and iPod Touch.

The iPad, which is viewed at the relative same distance, have much less PPI, though has the power supply to support much higher.

TL;DR - togtfo
 
The iPad, which is viewed at the relative same distance, have much less PPI, though has the power supply to support much higher.

TL;DR - togtfo

The iPad is not usually viewed at the same distance. I definitely hold my iPad further back. It's closer than I would view a laptop, but further than I view my iPhone for sure.

Also, I am not sure what you mean by "power supply."

If you mean the processor can handle it, then that is not entire true. For the iPad to reach the same PPI as the iPhone it would have to be a 2048x1536 resolution output. That would require quite a lot of extra video power, let alone everything else. It just doesn't seem logical that Apple would produce such a device anytime soon (the cost of making such a display is insane!)

Even if it was 2048x1536, what benefit would it give outside of text? Games would have to have their graphics toned down to handle the insane pixel rate required to be smooth. Videos could play back at 1080p, I suppose. Just in general it would put way too much demand on the hardware and developers alike.

So many people seem to assume that because the iPhone (and now iPod) have a retina display that the iPad is next, but I think that is just not going to happen any time soon. At the very best they could maybe increase the resolution to 1536x1152, which is only 2x current pixel density instead of 4x. The costs would still be pretty high though.

Small displays are way cheaper to make, people have no clue.
 
the grass isn't actually greener on the other side, it's just a different shade.

It's actually just "artificial Turf"

Also I want an iPad. Waiting though and the new touch is nice bit I already have an iPhone and if I had an iPad I don't think I'd be jealous of the new iPod touch. Besides how Manu have said it's a different product and you can do more on an iPad to a point. Plus the screen is great on it. Sony see why people complain about it.
 
No, no we shouldn't.

I went in to my local Apple store to buy a new iPod Touch 64 the other day. It's incrementally a little bit better than my 3rd gen 32gb one, in almost every way.

But actually, I won't use Facetime - at least, not yet. I would use a decent camera - but it doesn't have one. I might take videos, and it's for that reason that I'd want a 64, but I've never really owned a video camera so I just don't know. The retina display is nice, and makes reading feasible on the device, but I have an iPad - why wouldn't I use that for reading?

The battery life is better than my fading iPod touch and the home key on my old one is starting to go kooky.

I went ahead and asked for one, but they found they'd sold out of 64s, so I walked out of the store empty-handed. But I can't help feeling that I was saved from myself...

I might go ahead and get one anyway - I used to use my Touch all the time; but the iPad has taken over many of the uses that I had for it, because the iPad is better at those things: browsing, emails, games, video. If the battery gets worse on my current Touch and/or the home button dies, I'll get one.

But in fact, in terms of actual new things to use it for, I'd probably get more mileage out of a new-style nano, to replace my current-gen shuffle as a running companion.
 
Power Supply = Battery and or Power Source

The iPad is not usually viewed at the same distance. I definitely hold my iPad further back. It's closer than I would view a laptop, but further than I view my iPhone for sure.

Also, I am not sure what you mean by "power supply."

If you mean the processor can handle it, then that is not entire true. For the iPad to reach the same PPI as the iPhone it would have to be a 2048x1536 resolution output. That would require quite a lot of extra video power, let alone everything else. It just doesn't seem logical that Apple would produce such a device anytime soon (the cost of making such a display is insane!)

Even if it was 2048x1536, what benefit would it give outside of text? Games would have to have their graphics toned down to handle the insane pixel rate required to be smooth. Videos could play back at 1080p, I suppose. Just in general it would put way too much demand on the hardware and developers alike.

So many people seem to assume that because the iPhone (and now iPod) have a retina display that the iPad is next, but I think that is just not going to happen any time soon. At the very best they could maybe increase the resolution to 1536x1152, which is only 2x current pixel density instead of 4x. The costs would still be pretty high though.

Small displays are way cheaper to make, people have no clue.

Have you built a computer before? Or read the back of an AC adapter? Power Supply is used are the term for where the device gets the energy needed to run it.

I worded my post carefully to not sound like the iPad was worth of a Retina grade display, the A4 chip, and low ram could in no way support the same PPI as the iPhone/iPod Touch. As I DID say, the iPad is capable of a higher PPI than it currently has, with only a bump in RAM required to do so.

As for cost.. I don't know if you've noticed, but the bumps form the iPod Touch 3Gen compared to now the 4Gen, are stellar, and yet the price has been stabilized. For the price we pay for the iPad, a higher PPI screen and front facing camera would most definitely not increase the price. Think about the iPod upgrade..
 
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