Sigh.....I genuinely tried to give Android a second chance

[scorpio vega]

I am highly critical of Android. BUT....recently had my iphone stolen and my job offered a free Razr for free and I was like okay...save money, no worries.

I lasted 2 days.

I'll ignore the fact my phone chimed for whatever reason.That was annoying. I never knew WHAT the notificaftion was for bc my razr was doing whatever it was doing and it chimed.

I will even ignore the terrible cameras. It is motorola. They have always had terrible cameras (i remember my Droid days).

What made me realize I could never actually leave the apple ecosystem and I am actually contemplating braving the snowpocalypse to go to the Apple store to buy an iphone is....Apple pay.

My friend needed cash for an uber so I figured Google wallet(he uses android) would be useful. Except there is no(please correct me if I am wrong) actual way to send cash or receive cash.

Like I had to make a paypal to send him the cash to get him home but what in the world.

For all the capabilities Android fans like to brag about Android having, how is there no seamless way to send cash like Apple pay?

With apple pay, all i have to do is click the icon, type the amount in, send the cash and it is done in a minute.

Now if i am wrong, by all means, I'll eat crow and admit defeat.

But....i think this is why millions of us prefer Apple products. I dont have to go out of my way to do much. It just works without much thought.

Yes, I am well aware of certain things my razr can do that my iphone never could.

But as I sit here, I realize.....it doesnt really matter how much capabilities a phone can have when the overall experience is terrible.

This reminds me of Windows Phone. Loved them. Miss them. But as better as they were than Android and Iphone at the time, the lack of apps made the experience terrible. Same with WebOS. Again, a much better OS with a lack of apps.

Even the tap to pay feature is more effort than Apple.

 

[Aneres11]

I am highly critical of Android. BUT....recently had my iphone stolen and my job offered a free Razr for free and I was like okay...save money, no worries.

I lasted 2 days.

I'll ignore the fact my phone chimed for whatever reason.That was annoying. I never knew WHAT the notificaftion was for bc my razr was doing whatever it was doing and it chimed.

I will even ignore the terrible cameras. It is motorola. They have always had terrible cameras (i remember my Droid days).

What made me realize I could never actually leave the apple ecosystem and I am actually contemplating braving the snowpocalypse to go to the Apple store to buy an iphone is....Apple pay.

My friend needed cash for an uber so I figured Google wallet(he uses android) would be useful. Except there is no(please correct me if I am wrong) actual way to send cash or receive cash.

Like I had to make a paypal to send him the cash to get him home but what in the world.

For all the capabilities Android fans like to brag about Android having, how is there no seamless way to send cash like Apple pay?

With apple pay, all i have to do is click the icon, type the amount in, send the cash and it is done in a minute.

Now if i am wrong, by all means, I'll eat crow and admit defeat.

But....i think this is why millions of us prefer Apple products. I dont have to go out of my way to do much. It just works without much thought.

Yes, I am well aware of certain things my razr can do that my iphone never could.

But as I sit here, I realize.....it doesnt really matter how much capabilities a phone can have when the overall experience is terrible.

This reminds me of Windows Phone. Loved them. Miss them. But as better as they were than Android and Iphone at the time, the lack of apps made the experience terrible. Same with WebOS. Again, a much better OS with a lack of apps.

Even the tap to pay feature is more effort than Apple.

So you say you're highly critical of android only to accept a work issued android, that, judging from your post you'd likely never choose for yourself in an ordinary world... To then moan that you couldn't send someone money which therefore makes apple superior (to you?). I mean, fair play if that's what's important to you, but not really sure on the point of the post.

That's like me going into the iPhone section and saying how rubbish my (actual) iPhone 13 is that is work issued.

Can't take the post seriously when you "sit and realise that the overall experience is terrible" when you're using a mid range android and moaning that it basically doesn't have apple pay. I've seen some troll posts in my time but this one... 😁😅.

 

[Expos of 1969]

I am highly critical of Android. BUT....recently had my iphone stolen and my job offered a free Razr for free and I was like okay...save money, no worries.

I lasted 2 days.

I'll ignore the fact my phone chimed for whatever reason.That was annoying. I never knew WHAT the notificaftion was for bc my razr was doing whatever it was doing and it chimed.

I will even ignore the terrible cameras. It is motorola. They have always had terrible cameras (i remember my Droid days).

What made me realize I could never actually leave the apple ecosystem and I am actually contemplating braving the snowpocalypse to go to the Apple store to buy an iphone is....Apple pay.

My friend needed cash for an uber so I figured Google wallet(he uses android) would be useful. Except there is no(please correct me if I am wrong) actual way to send cash or receive cash.

Like I had to make a paypal to send him the cash to get him home but what in the world.

For all the capabilities Android fans like to brag about Android having, how is there no seamless way to send cash like Apple pay?

With apple pay, all i have to do is click the icon, type the amount in, send the cash and it is done in a minute.

Now if i am wrong, by all means, I'll eat crow and admit defeat.

But....i think this is why millions of us prefer Apple products. I dont have to go out of my way to do much. It just works without much thought.

Yes, I am well aware of certain things my razr can do that my iphone never could.

But as I sit here, I realize.....it doesnt really matter how much capabilities a phone can have when the overall experience is terrible.

This reminds me of Windows Phone. Loved them. Miss them. But as better as they were than Android and Iphone at the time, the lack of apps made the experience terrible. Same with WebOS. Again, a much better OS with a lack of apps.

Even the tap to pay feature is more effort than Apple.

Your friend should have a credit card set up in his phone so he can pay for Uber when he has no cash on hand. Not an Android problem, a friend problem.

 

[Rainbow Apple]

What made me realize I could never actually leave the apple ecosystem and I am actually contemplating braving the snowpocalypse to go to the Apple store to buy an iphone is....Apple pay.

Backups! Keep a backup smartphone in working order, so that you have it ready to go if you need it. And test your backup from time-to-time, so that you know it works properly and does what you need it to do. That way, no need to brave snowpocalypses. You replace your smartphone at your own convenience.

My friend needed cash for an uber so I figured Google wallet(he uses android) would be useful. Except there is no(please correct me if I am wrong) actual way to send cash or receive cash.

Like I had to make a paypal to send him the cash to get him home but what in the world.

In other words: You think the default Android apps ae limited? Well, I can't disagree there! But I'd say the same thing about the default iOS apps. That's why I'm not one for sticking to the default apps!

One limitation of the default iOS apps, is that Apple apps only work on iOS. You yourself ran into that problem, because there is not Apple app for Android which has that "send cash or receive cash" function. If there were, then you could have just used that instead of bothering with PayPal. Because there's not, PayPal is (most likely) the better option on both Android and iOS.

It's fair to blame Google for the limitations of Google apps. However, Apple deserves a lot of the blame for your poor experience as well!

Can't take the post seriously when you "sit and realise that the overall experience is terrible" when you're using a mid range android and moaning that it basically doesn't have apple pay. I've seen some troll posts in my time but this one... 😁😅.

I disagree, I think the OP has a point.

 

[russell_314]

I am highly critical of Android. BUT....recently had my iphone stolen and my job offered a free Razr for free and I was like okay...save money, no worries.

I lasted 2 days.

As someone who uses an iPhone, I feel you, but I think you have to give it more than two days for a realistic experience. There’s a learning curve with everything and just because you can’t do it doesn’t mean it can’t be done. You have to learn the new way just like if you came from android to iOS.

I'll ignore the fact my phone chimed for whatever reason.That was annoying. I never knew WHAT the notificaftion was for bc my razr was doing whatever it was doing and it chimed.

I’m pretty sure you can change notifications to have it notify you of certain things.

I will even ignore the terrible cameras. It is motorola. They have always had terrible cameras (i remember my Droid days).

That is specific to the model you’re using. There are android phones with just as good or maybe even better cameras. This is a hardware issue rather than a software issue.

What made me realize I could never actually leave the apple ecosystem and I am actually contemplating braving the snowpocalypse to go to the Apple store to buy an iphone is....Apple pay.

My friend needed cash for an uber so I figured Google wallet(he uses android) would be useful. Except there is no(please correct me if I am wrong) actual way to send cash or receive cash.

Like I had to make a paypal to send him the cash to get him home but what in the world.

For all the capabilities Android fans like to brag about Android having, how is there no seamless way to send cash like Apple pay?

With apple pay, all i have to do is click the icon, type the amount in, send the cash and it is done in a minute.

Yeah, I don’t think Google has caught up to Apple on that one. There are apps you can do the same thing but not built-in ones. You can send your friend money through Cash app or Venmo for example. No, it’s not going to be as seamless as with Apple.

Now if i am wrong, by all means, I'll eat crow and admit defeat.

But....i think this is why millions of us prefer Apple products. I dont have to go out of my way to do much. It just works without much thought.

This is one of the great features of Apple products in general. For the most part, you can just pick one up and use it without changing any settings or doing anything and it just works. It doesn’t have the degree of customization compared to android but you also don’t have to change a bunch of things.

Yes, I am well aware of certain things my razr can do that my iphone never could.

But as I sit here, I realize.....it doesnt really matter how much capabilities a phone can have when the overall experience is terrible.

This reminds me of Windows Phone. Loved them. Miss them. But as better as they were than Android and Iphone at the time, the lack of apps made the experience terrible. Same with WebOS. Again, a much better OS with a lack of apps.

Even the tap to pay feature is more effort than Apple.

if you really want to dabble in the Google ecosystem, try the Google Pixel. From my understanding that is the closest thing you can get to iPhone on android when it comes to it just works. It’s still may not be what you want, but it’s probably better than the Razr.

 

[Harthag]

I am highly critical of Android. BUT....recently had my iphone stolen and my job offered a free Razr for free and I was like okay...save money, no worries.

I lasted 2 days.

I'll ignore the fact my phone chimed for whatever reason.That was annoying. I never knew WHAT the notificaftion was for bc my razr was doing whatever it was doing and it chimed.

I will even ignore the terrible cameras. It is motorola. They have always had terrible cameras (i remember my Droid days).

What made me realize I could never actually leave the apple ecosystem and I am actually contemplating braving the snowpocalypse to go to the Apple store to buy an iphone is....Apple pay.

My friend needed cash for an uber so I figured Google wallet(he uses android) would be useful. Except there is no(please correct me if I am wrong) actual way to send cash or receive cash.

Like I had to make a paypal to send him the cash to get him home but what in the world.

For all the capabilities Android fans like to brag about Android having, how is there no seamless way to send cash like Apple pay?

With apple pay, all i have to do is click the icon, type the amount in, send the cash and it is done in a minute.

Now if i am wrong, by all means, I'll eat crow and admit defeat.

But....i think this is why millions of us prefer Apple products. I dont have to go out of my way to do much. It just works without much thought.

Yes, I am well aware of certain things my razr can do that my iphone never could.

But as I sit here, I realize.....it doesnt really matter how much capabilities a phone can have when the overall experience is terrible.

This reminds me of Windows Phone. Loved them. Miss them. But as better as they were than Android and Iphone at the time, the lack of apps made the experience terrible. Same with WebOS. Again, a much better OS with a lack of apps.

Even the tap to pay feature is more effort than Apple.

Agree with the quick pay issues, but as someone else said that's what Zelle / Venmo are for. Even with my iPhone I never use the send cash feature.

It's a Razr...you can't compare that experience to current Android flagships. It's trash.

I'm also with you on the tap to pay effort. At McDonald's on way to office to get a coffee and it's very cold here. I've scanned my fingerprints dozens of times in different conditions to get good accuracy, but I guess my finger was so dry it would not work at all. So I couldn't verify Samsung Pay by tapping the phone because of that. I had to get my wallet and credit card out to pay, which was very annoying (1st world problem). FPS are very finicky with screen protectors. I thought I could verify payment with face unlock, apparently not or I missed something.

You should buy the iPhone 16e as a backup phone.

 

[yui4]

You’d be snookered if in the uk then, because as far as I know, we don’t have that Apple Cash function at all!

 

[scorpio vega]

Can't take the post seriously when you "sit and realise that

I forget android fans get defensive if you rightfully criticize android lol.

In other words: You think the default Android apps ae limited? Well, I can't disagree there! But I'd say the same thing about the default iOS apps. That's why I'm not one for sticking to the default apps!

Except I have no issues with any of apples default apps.

My point was they all work. android fans love to point out how much stronger and better android is than iOS.

In reality, customization aside, it’s not much better. I got better use and strength out of my windows phone.

I shouldn’t have to download 3rd party apps unless I chose to bc the first party apps are terrible.

One limitation of the default iOS apps, is that Apple apps only work on iOS. You yourself ran into that problem, because there is not Apple app for Android which has that "send cash or receive cash" function. If there were, then you could have just used that instead of bothering with PayPal. Because there's not, PayPal is (most likely) the better option on both Android and iOS.

That’s why apple works. Im glad it only works with apple products.

While there are 1000s of android phones, the fact that whether you are using a budget android of $1500 galaxy fold the experience is inconsistent.

I can pick up an iPhone 8 and use it just fine even if it doesn’t have all the features im used to.

Depending on the android, I may be missing nfc. I may be still using micro usb (yes there are phones in the states still being sold using micro usb)

I know android is about customization. I used it for ten years.

But the basic android experience is inconsistent.

It's fair to blame Google for the limitations of Google apps. However, Apple deserves a lot of the blame for your poor experience as well!

Lmao how does apple deserve any blame here?

Neither one of us are using an iPhone or apple product

There’s a learning curve with everything and just because you can’t do it doesn’t mean it can’t be done. You have to learn the new way just like if you came from android to iOS.

I don’t need to learn android. I was literally an Og android cupcake girl with my g1 and over the course of a decade an htc fan. My last android was a galaxy s22 before this razr.

I have owned niche phones like Sony Xperia play phone and I was one of the 8 ppl who bought the actual first foldable phone (Kyocera echo).

So I know android quite well to know it’s terrible.

That is specific to the model you’re using. There are android phones with just as good or maybe even better cameras. This is a hardware issue rather than a software issue.

Im not really even worried about the camera. Like I said I overlook it.

Motorola is notoriously bad for pics.

Yeah, I don’t think Google has caught up to Apple on that one. There are apps you can do the same thing but not built-in ones. You can send your friend money through Cash app or Venmo for example. No, it’s not going to be as seamless as with Apple.

Yes im aware but thats the problem. You can't brag about android being better when it fails and lacks in many ways

The android/google integration is terrible and I didn’t realize truly how much better apples integration is until I used this phone.

Agree with the quick pay issues, but as someone else said that's what Zelle / Venmo are for. Even with my iPhone I never use the send cash feature.

Must be an American thing.

It’s quite common for us in my demographic to use. I don’t use Venmo bc I was hacked and not every banks is compatible with Zelle.

I was just shocked the mighty google does not have a way to send cash.

You’d be snookered if in the uk then, because as far as I know, we don’t have that Apple Cash function at all!

Thats wild

 

[macfacts]

Now if i am wrong, by all means, I'll eat crow and admit defeat.

So you couldn't think of the search terms to use in Google? "Send money Google pay"

 

[scorpio vega]

So you couldn't think of the search terms to use in Google? "Send money Google pay"

I did actually. I also posted here to see if actual android fans knew something. Bc it is an android forum.



And there is no way to do that as google pay is discontinued and it is replaced with google wallet and there is no option to send money. Which even the ppl in this post have Alluded to and told me I should use a third party app.

I also tried the gmail option that supposedly exist but again i did not see the option.

So yes I have done my research.

Any other questions or can we just concede the fact that google ecosystem still lacks a lot of the apple like integration and all the customization in the world doesn’t make up for what should be already implemented since payment between friends is a common trend.

I will suffer with this phone for a week and ill
Just buy a 16e lmao. It’ll hold me till September and it will also get me off the subpar ecosystem that is android/google.

 

[MarkX]

Modern smartphones are app based, that's why there are apps stores. You're using the excuse that Google wallet can't send cash as a reason to bash android.

There are several apps that can do what you want but you refuse to do that for whatever reason, it's your choice of course, but it's not exactly hard or even a big deal to go to the playstorstore and get what you need now is it?

 

[Rainbow Apple]

I forget android fans get defensive if you rightfully criticize android lol.

Not me. As I said: I have one foot firmly in the Android world, the other firmly in the iOS world. Both OSs leave a lot to be desired!

Modern smartphones are app based, that's why there are apps stores. You're using the excuse that Google wallet can't send cash as a reason to bash android.

There are several apps that can do what you want but you refuse to do that for whatever reason, it's your choice of course, but it's not exactly hard or even a big deal to go to the playstorstore and get what you need now is it?

Come now, there's no need for that tone. Not everyone wants to hunt around app stores for apps. And why should they have to? Why shouldn't the default apps be good?

That’s why apple works. Im glad [Apple apps] only works with apple products.

I don't think so. Lots of apps work fine on any old computer (and smartphones are computers). I think that Apple Maps, for example, would still work if Apple made an Android version (assuming Apple used competent qualified programmers).

 

[macfacts]

I did actually. I also posted here to see if actual android fans knew something. Bc it is an android forum.



And there is no way to do that as google pay is discontinued and it is replaced with google wallet and there is no option to send money. Which even the ppl in this post have Alluded to and told me I should use a third party app.

I also tried the gmail option that supposedly exist but again i did not see the option.

So yes I have done my research.

Any other questions or can we just concede the fact that google ecosystem still lacks a lot of the apple like integration and all the customization in the world doesn’t make up for what should be already implemented since payment between friends is a common trend.

I will suffer with this phone for a week and ill
Just buy a 16e lmao. It’ll hold me till September and it will also get me off the subpar ecosystem that is android/google.

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[jamezr]

Post history is public information so no need to try to get it moderated.....anyone can see post history

I'll leave this right here....

 

[russell_314]

I forget android fans get defensive if you rightfully criticize android lol.

I don’t understand how people get defensive over their favorite phone brand. Although I guess it’s understandable how people are attached to their portable computers because so many people stare at them for hours a day. Many spend more time interacting with their phone than their family and friends.

Except I have no issues with any of apples default apps.

My point was they all work. android fans love to point out how much stronger and better android is than iOS.

From my experience, the only advantage android has is with customization. If you just want to use the phone out of the box iPhone is the better choice.

I shouldn’t have to download 3rd party apps unless I chose to bc the first party apps are terrible.

I agree, but many android fans feel that this gives them choice instead of using the stock apps

While there are 1000s of android phones, the fact that whether you are using a budget android of $1500 galaxy fold the experience is inconsistent.

I can pick up an iPhone 8 and use it just fine even if it doesn’t have all the features im used to.

Depending on the android, I may be missing nfc. I may be still using micro usb (yes there are phones in the states still being sold using micro usb)

This is why Apple is very careful not to release a super budget phone.

Also, your argument about inconsistent could be looked at as android has more variety. If you want a folding phone, you can get it with android. If you want or need a very inexpensive phone, you can get an android phone for less than $100. If you want a small android phone, you could still get one. Have you seen the iPhone meme about the guy with the flannel shirts? Yeah that’s iPhones. Even the most expensive iPhones are practically indistinguishable from the cheapest at a distance.

I don’t need to learn android. I was literally an Og android cupcake girl with my g1 and over the course of a decade an htc fan. My last android was a galaxy s22 before this razr.

I have owned niche phones like Sony Xperia play phone and I was one of the 8 ppl who bought the actual first foldable phone (Kyocera echo).

So I know android quite well to know it’s terrible.

You didn’t seem to understand how the android wallet thing worked so that’s why I thought you might be new to android. It sounds like you have established an opinion about android from your experience with it. There’s nothing wrong with having a preference or an opinion, but clearly it just relates to how you experience android based on your needs and expectations. If it was legitimately terrible, how do you explain so many people praising it and spending thousands of dollars for android phones? They must be having a positive experience. I used android on cheaper devices and didn’t like the experience. Yep

Must be an American thing.

It’s quite common for us in my demographic to use. I don’t use Venmo bc I was hacked and not every banks is compatible with Zelle.

I was just shocked the mighty google does not have a way to send cash.

Thats wild

Maybe it’s an American thing? I know many of my friends who use Cash App and Venmo to send money. I’ve only known one to use Apple Cash. Of course I think those apps were around long before the Apple version so maybe that’s why.

 

[scorpio vega]

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Again. Google pay does not exist. So this literally does nothing for me.

If he's trolling, he's doing a very good job of it. He's made himself look like he's not the unreasonable one in this thread. He's made it look like half the folks here can't take criticism of Android. Eather he's a very good troll, and you folks are very bad at not taking the bait, or you folks owe him a very big apology!

She lol. And not a troll. Just very blunt.

This is largely the rhetoric most android fans have because they truly believe android is superior in every way than apple when it really isn’t and for some reason they can’t accept that apple does something better.

I have resisted this thread until now...the original poster is a known Android hater. Has been in here in this section in past doing the exact same thing as this thread is doing. They post negative things about Android here in this section just to rile people up. Just look at the OP post history and you can see they have no love for anything that isn't Apple.
Don't feed the tr**l and they will go away....

I have love for things that are good lmao.

If you get riled up bc someone criticizes android lacking a feature that is common in 2025 you really should speak to someone about that.

Modern smartphones are app based, that's why there are apps stores. You're using the excuse that Google wallet can't send cash as a reason to bash android.

There are several apps that can do what you want but you refuse to do that for whatever reason, it's your choice of course, but it's not exactly hard or even a big deal to go to the playstorstore and get what you need now is it?

thats a poor excuse to make up for the fact it lacks a capability.

I’ll explain why.

1. I think any OS that lacks features that are expected and common place in 2025 should be criticized. I shouldn’t have to use a third party app bc the OS lacks a feature.

(See windows phone/windows mobile). Or how long it took apple to get a calculator for apple.

2. Not every person can use PayPal or Venmo or Zelle.

It’s literally easier for me to Apple Pay someone via iMessage than downloading an app and hoping it compatible for us both.

3. More importantly, I do not trust most third party apps that deal with access to my money.

Cash app has outages all the time.
PayPal gets hacked often.
Venmo i currently have cash sitting in there that I can’t access bc the account is locked. lol. No explanation.

I’ve never had any issue using Apple Pay.

Im not using the excuse of anything to bash android.

Android in itself is terrible but I was okay tolerating it because why not.

So imagine my surprise when I was shocked that google wallet lacks a very key feature apple has always had.

I will always prioritize first party apps. Any 3rd party apps I use (social media for example) is a want. Not bc the OS first party are deficient.

Again you all really need to take it down a notch.

It’s a phone os. This is macrumors. While im amazing, im Scorpio Vega. lol meaning it is not that serious.

 

[AustinIllini]

I have tried this multiple times. Apple lock-in is real and infuriating.

 

[scorpio vega]

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Because this is not about apples blemishes lol. L
Nobody is ignoring that bc we are not talking about apples blemishes.

And plz tell me when I have not respected for your choice. It’s your money. It’s your choice.

I do not care what you all prefer to use. Lmao.

I get along well with anyone who can have a conversation without all the egos and false accusations.

It’s a phone….

 

[scorpio vega]

I have tried this multiple times. Apple lock-in is real and infuriating.

It’s not a lock-in lol. I hate this rhetoric. You can just choose to use android.

Apple being Apple only isn’t a lock-in bc android has an inferior ecosystem synergy.

 

[AustinIllini]

It’s not a lock-in lol. I hate this rhetoric. You can just choose to use android.

Apple being Apple only isn’t a lock-in bc android has an inferior ecosystem synergy.

Vendor Lock-In - Vendor Lock-in, also known as proprietary lock-in or customer lock-in, refers to a situation where a customer becomes dependent on a vendor for products and services and cannot easily switch to another vendor without substantial costs or inconvenience.

 

[jamezr]

Because this is not about apples blemishes lol. L
Nobody is ignoring that bc we are not talking about apples blemishes.

And plz tell me when I have not respected for your choice. It’s your money. It’s your choice.

I do not care what you all prefer to use. Lmao.

I get along well with anyone who can have a conversation without all the egos and false accusations.

It’s a phone….

Your motives are clear here...you have no intention of having a discussion about Android as you already made up you mind before you started this thread....

 

[russell_314]

I shouldn’t have to use a third party app bc the OS lacks a feature.

Some people have an argument that’s the opposite of this. They don’t like an operating system that has default apps because they feel this locks users in to a proprietary ecosystem.

I disagree with this because I feel like it’s just people that use a different operating system that doesn’t have these features and they’re just upset that someone can have something they can’t. That’s human nature, of course.

Either way, I don’t think android is a bad operating system but it’s just different. We all can’t like the same thing because we all have different needs and wants. I want to pick up a phone and be able to use it without any modifications. I can use someone else’s iPhone without having to figure out what launcher they’re using and how to do certain things because everything is exactly the same. Some people don’t like this idea, but I love it.

 

[macfacts]

1. I think any OS that lacks features that are expected and common place in 2025 should be criticized. I shouldn’t have to use a third party app bc the OS lacks a feature.

How is a google app (Google pay/ Google wallet) a 3rd party app? In Canada I can use my banking app (td Bank) to send money (e-transfer) with email for free. Do you consider your bank app a 3rd party?

 

[scorpio vega]

Maybe it’s an American thing? I know many of my friends who use Cash App and Venmo to send money. I’ve only known one to use Apple Cash. Of course I think those apps were around long before the Apple version so maybe that’s why.

This is why Apple is very careful not to release a super budget phone.

Also, your argument about inconsistent could be looked at as android has more variety. If you want a folding phone, you can get it with android. If you want or need a very inexpensive phone, you can get an android phone for less than $100. If you want a small android phone, you could still get one.

There’s nothing wrong with variety. And its variety of choices is not an excuse for an inconsistent experience.

For example, while android is open there is absolutely no reason google does d actually force and require all Oems to be on the same software version.

The fact that in 2025, there are still brand new android phones being sold with android 13-14 when 15 is current and 16 is supposed to be released soon is ridiculous.

I was looking at android phones last night and there are phones that dont have nfc.

even within the same brand and damolg
The experience is both inconsistent and redundant (Motorolas g family and Samsung a family).

I don’t expect high end features in budget or entry phones.

I do expect a basic consistency however.

Have you seen the iPhone meme about the guy with the flannel shirts? Yeah that’s iPhones. Even the most expensive iPhones are practically indistinguishable from the cheapest at a distance.

That’s what make iPhone the better option. You aren’t really compromising much from buying a 16e or a 15 vs a pro max.

The fact I can go back to an xs or 11 and while it lacks certain features and may be a smudge slower it isn’t bad.

From my experience, the only advantage android has is with customization. If you just want to use the phone out of the box iPhone is the better choice.

And honestly the only customization I actually like is Niagara launcher. It’s beautiful.

But I personally largely don’t care about android customization so it isn’t a plus for me.

I don’t understand how people get defensive over their favorite phone brand. Although I guess it’s understandable how people are attached to their portable computers because so many people stare at them for hours a day. Many spend more time interacting with their phone than their family and friends.

Exactly. Im an Apple girl through and through but I also don’t care if someone criticizes apple.

This reminds me of the early 2010s when android fans would argue over which OEM was the best lmao.

Like come on now. I can see arguing sports teams.

Arguing about phones? Lmao

 

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Your motives are clear here...you have no intention of having a discussion about Android as you already made up you mind before you started this thread....

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As I said before many people spend more time interacting with their phones than their family and friends. They’ve become emotionally attached to them so when someone speaks negatively about their phone it’s similar to speaking negatively about a close family member. It’s on both sides of this fence