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Populus

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P.S. I would also check if it doesn't cause you eyestrain. Some people, including myself, cannot use newer Apple tech due to eyestrain from screens.
Exactly, I find the 9th gen iPad screen one of the most comfortable to look at.

OP, keep in mind that Apple can axe this model at any point. I don’t want to create any kind of FOMO on you, just keep that in mind. I bought it because I know it will be the last of its kind.
 
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Torty

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It seems devices get 5 major updates. This means it will likely get no update in 2027.
So you still get over 3 years of full support. Security updates afterwards. If you also got an iphone <= 14 you can charge it with the same cable 😁
So why not if price is ok.
p.S.: For improved autocorrect you need at least an A14. So this will not be supported by the iPad 9.
 
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Homme

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The real scam is the 64/256 storage configuration jump, which adds $150 to any iPad and gives the whole lineup an unappealing price structure.

For the iPad 9 I disagree, that older design getting 64GB for that price is good

Other iPad with the newer design I agree even 128GB iPad Pros to the list too
 

drugdoubles

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It seems devices get 5 major updates. This means it will likely get no update in 2027.
So you still get over 3 years of full support. Security updates afterwards. If you also got an iphone <= 14 you can charge it with the same cable 😁
So why not if price is ok.
p.S.: For improved autocorrect you need at least an A14. So this will not be supported by the iPad 9.

Security updates afterwards is a pure guess
 

drugdoubles

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It seems devices get 5 major updates. This means it will likely get no update in 2027.
So you still get over 3 years of full support. Security updates afterwards. If you also got an iphone <= 14 you can charge it with the same cable 😁
So why not if price is ok.
p.S.: For improved autocorrect you need at least an A14. So this will not be supported by the iPad 9.

This is what I don’t like about Apple now, they cut support time period for products now. I bought the series 3 Apple Watch last year then receive no more WatchOS update at all, just security updates like once in half year. Now this iPad is 3 years support only which sounds very bad. Apple tries to make you buy new product again and again as soon as possible now.
 

rui no onna

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This is what I don’t like about Apple now, they cut support time period for products now. I bought the series 3 Apple Watch last year then receive no more WatchOS update at all, just security updates like once in half year. Now this iPad is 3 years support only which sounds very bad. Apple tries to make you buy new product again and again as soon as possible now.

In fairness, the iPad 9th gen is cheaper than the OG iPad particularly when you factor in inflation. Iirc, the OG iPad only got 1 major iOS update. The iPad 2 got 5 but honestly, it’s a PITA to use on higher than iOS 7.

Also, the A13 is a 4 year old chipset at this point. 3 years from now ain’t bad all things considered. For those who bought the 9th gen upon release (2021), that’s 5 years of support.
 

drugdoubles

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In fairness, the iPad 9th gen is cheaper than the OG iPad particularly when you factor in inflation. Iirc, the OG iPad only got 1 major iOS update. The iPad 2 got 5 but honestly, it’s a PITA to use on higher than iOS 7.

Also, the A13 is a 4 year old chipset at this point. 3 years from now ain’t bad all things considered. For those who bought the 9th gen upon release (2021), that’s 5 years of support.

To be fair I think any major product in Apple official website should have around 5 years support from the day that customer can order. Most of the customers are not into tech and they would not even know it only has 3 years support until they don’t get the update.
 

drugdoubles

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Another big difference between using a no support no patch macOS is much more safe since you still can download and use updated browser. iOS or iPadOS browser update is directly linked to iPadOS, no iPadOS update means no more browser update which is a big risk.
 

Torty

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Another big difference between using a no support no patch macOS is much more safe since you still can download and use updated browser. iOS or iPadOS browser update is directly linked to iPadOS, no iPadOS update means no more browser update which is a big risk.
So best suggestion imo would be to wait for iPad 11 to come with A15. Its neural engine is 43% faster than A14’s so it’s likely to get more features in future iPad OS versions. Ipad 10 is available since October 22 so you lose almost one year of support.
 

Digitalguy

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Another big difference between using a no support no patch macOS is much more safe since you still can download and use updated browser. iOS or iPadOS browser update is directly linked to iPadOS, no iPadOS update means no more browser update which is a big risk.
It's not the same thing. iPadOS is locked like a sandbox. It's much less likely to get malware via the browser on an iPad than it is on a Mac. The only real way to infect it would be via social engeneering, which can happen also with up-to-date devices. People worry more because of lack of knowledge of how it works than because of actual danger.
 

drugdoubles

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It's not the same thing. iPadOS is locked like a sandbox. It's much less likely to get malware via the browser on an iPad than it is on a Mac. The only real way to infect it would be via social engeneering, which can happen also with up-to-date devices. People worry more because of lack of knowledge of how it works than because of actual danger.

We need to assume this sandbox design still works perfectly fine in years when there is no more update anymore. I would say it should be ok safe for any non banking non payment stuff.
 

FeliApple

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It's not the same thing. iPadOS is locked like a sandbox. It's much less likely to get malware via the browser on an iPad than it is on a Mac. The only real way to infect it would be via social engeneering, which can happen also with up-to-date devices. People worry more because of lack of knowledge of how it works than because of actual danger.
So many of these things are so massively overstated. The security aspect is just scaremongering, the support aspect of iOS too, some people who haven’t used outdated iOS versions have said “well, after the device loses support, it’s mostly unusable after two years”, which is... well, not true. Battery health is another aspect which is extremely and widely ballooned as if its influence on battery life were far larger than it is.
 

okkibs

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We were talking specifically about the value of Apple Refurb vs Apple full price not being enough because it's not "brand new" according to OP. Nothing about third party retailer prices. I don't think you read what I was responding to but for next time, context matters.
Sure I read that, but comparisons based on the "original price" for a 2 year old device is an absurd premise. We live in a world where Apple's price wishes for that iPad are completely irrelevant when it actually comes down to buying one, and this thread is about purchase recommendations. I am trying to stop people from spending more money on refurb devices that contain used parts when new units are available at a lower price point, that is all.
 

drugdoubles

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Sure I read that, but comparisons based on the "original price" for a 2 year old device is an absurd premise. We live in a world where Apple's price wishes for that iPad are completely irrelevant when it actually comes down to buying one, and this thread is about purchase recommendations. I am trying to stop people from spending more money on refurb devices that contain used parts when new units are available at a lower price point, that is all.

With only 3 years support left, I think even refurb is too expensive.
 

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Sure I read that, but comparisons based on the "original price" for a 2 year old device is an absurd premise. We live in a world where Apple's price wishes for that iPad are completely irrelevant when it actually comes down to buying one, and this thread is about purchase recommendations. I am trying to stop people from spending more money on refurb devices that contain used parts when new units are available at a lower price point, that is all.
Personally I think buying a 9th generation iPad is a horrible idea regardless of how much one pays for it. I was just trying to highlight how OPs mentality that if a refurbished product from Apple is only 15-20% off you might as well pay full price is silly and a waste of money. Of course that argument disregards the existence of third party stores selling unopened brand new models for less.
 
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okkibs

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With only 3 years support left, I think even refurb is too expensive.
Even the 10 year old 5th gen iPad is still on the latest iPadOS right now. Regardless of when support actually ends, you'll have to make a sacrifice somewhere if you want it to be cheap and functional. The only other tablet options for the same price are some older Android tablets that might never see anything beyond the current Android 13, if they even run that. There's basically only the "Lenovo Tab" tablet that initially came with Android 12 and to this day doesn't even run Android 13.
 
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rui no onna

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Even the 10 year old 5th gen iPad is still on the latest iPadOS right now. Regardless of when support actually ends, you'll have to make a sacrifice somewhere if you want it to be cheap and functional. The only other tablet options for the same price are some older Android tablets that might never see anything beyond the current Android 13, if they even run that. There's basically only the "Lenovo Tab" tablet that initially came with Android 12 and to this day doesn't even run Android 13.

6 years old, not 10. The 10 year old is the OG iPad Air and that one’s stuck on iOS 12.

But yeah, alternatives aren’t much better in terms of updates. Often worse.
 

drugdoubles

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Even the 10 year old 5th gen iPad is still on the latest iPadOS right now. Regardless of when support actually ends, you'll have to make a sacrifice somewhere if you want it to be cheap and functional. The only other tablet options for the same price are some older Android tablets that might never see anything beyond the current Android 13, if they even run that. There's basically only the "Lenovo Tab" tablet that initially came with Android 12 and to this day doesn't even run Android 13.

5th gen ipad
Release dateMarch 24, 2017
 

drugdoubles

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Even the 10 year old 5th gen iPad is still on the latest iPadOS right now. Regardless of when support actually ends, you'll have to make a sacrifice somewhere if you want it to be cheap and functional. The only other tablet options for the same price are some older Android tablets that might never see anything beyond the current Android 13, if they even run that. There's basically only the "Lenovo Tab" tablet that initially came with Android 12 and to this day doesn't even run Android 13.

Android tablets do not match the iPad standard at all, I agree, especially the cheap android, the monitor quality, laggy, all of these not even closed to cheap iPad.
 

Mr. Heckles

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To be fair I think any major product in Apple official website should have around 5 years support from the day that customer can order. Most of the customers are not into tech and they would not even know it only has 3 years support until they don’t get the update.
That’s not how anything works. That iPad came out in September of 2021, so its almost a 2 year old iPad, and already 2 years old the day you buy it. If you buy a 2021 year model vehicle, is it new if you buy it new in 2023? No, it’s a 2 year old vehicle (But new to you).

This is why if I buy electronics within a few months they are released. If I can’t afford it at that time, I save up for the next release. I bought an iPad Pro 2nd generation that came out in September of 2017 in December of 2017 and it’s still getting support today (until iPadOS 17 comes out). I got it because I got a great deal on it with my trade in, and my old iPad was giving me issues. That’s getting 6 years of support, so I felt I got my monies worth. It will probably get a few security updates here and there, but I’m not counting on it.

Wait until Prime Day, maybe you can get a good deal on the iPad 10.
 
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