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Snow Leopard Installation Downgrades Flash Player to Vulnerable Version
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Yeah, that.
Or else you're just full of ****, like all of the other Apple apologists.
It's easy to discover those who can't maintain their computers by the amount they whine about Flash as a "resource hog."
Seriously, if Flash is really tanking your computer, you have some other serious problems going on with it.I'll be getting Snow Leopard for free, but the disc is going to sit on my desk for a while until a lot of the problems are fixed. It's always best to wait a bit.
What other serious problems? Flash playback is miserable in general but it is the worst under OS X. I've seen threads elsewhere complaining about the terrible bundled Flash plug-in with Snow Leopard before this security issue popped into the spotlight.It's easy to discover those who can't maintain their computers by the amount they whine about Flash as a "resource hog."
Microsoft seem to manage it. I've had Windows/Microsoft update push critical flash fixes at me before.
In either case, if Apple update the flash player regardless of your wishes they have assumed responsibility for it. You/They can't have it both ways.
Apple updates the installed Flash versions via their Software Updates.
See here: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3549
They just have to issue the latest fixes...
I guess I'm the only one who always updates these kinds of things? I thought this was a given. But no, I guess people are too lazy to even bother updating a simple piece of software that they probably use daily.
Oh, wait, what am I saying? Oh Apple, how dare you! Grrr
Oh, wait, what am I saying? Oh Apple, how dare you! Grrr
Read it again, Reading Comprehension Man. They didn't upgrade. It's a new, totally different system. Sorry.
And nobody is blaming the end user. A sensible person blames Adobe, who doesn't provide modern update facilities for software that is internet-exposed to critical vulnerabilities.
They're opened by the Preview engine. You have to change binary plist files in order to get them to be opened by the vulnerable Flash or Acrobat Reader engines.
Well, as has been pointed out now I was wrong that they don't push Flash updates. Adobe seems to have an agreement to let them do so, though it seems to be only in the case of critical security fixes--not general updates--and in this instance they have. So, there ya go. Problem solved.
Funny how I have all those programs too and this doesn't happen with my version of Snow Leopard. Hmm. I must have a defective installation, because somehow everything works quite beautifully.
Not true. When you install Acrobat it installs a plug-in that causes Safari to open PDFs in an Acrobat environment.
And that's Adobe's fault? C'mon..
I will say this, however: Flash does not play well with Safari. Actually, media in general doesn't run well in Safari!! I've had no problems or performance issues using Flash in Firefox running on OS X. I also develop Flash applications on this system, and still no problems. I honestly don't know what people are complaining about or why their computers run poorly.
I disagree. It's not absurd to expect to have software as you had it before install. and if it's downgraded without warning, the user should be notified of the general risk.
Youre basically asserting that if I install SL and have CS3 installed on leopard, I should assume that all the updates Adobe has pushed over the last year have been removed?
a thought to ponder.
okay so Apple gets permission from a 3rd party to include said company's product with their software.
all well and good
but how did Apple get said software in order to include it. they had to be given it by the company.
and if the company releases a new version and doesn't give it to Apple to update their installers what can Apple do. yes it would have been better if there was a way to test if someone had a newer version and leave it alone. something that is likely to be fixed in the upcoming 10.6.1.
but then again, how many folks here were on the quick list to try for a clean install anyway. And the folks that didn't or couldn't are the geek types that double check versions etc. cause that's just how they are.
at least some flavors of Java, perhaps including the one that Apple uses, are open source. None of flash is.
from the Leopard EULA which is likely identical to the SL one
"E. Apple has provided, as part of the Apple Software package, access to certain third party software as a convenience. To the extent that the Apple Software contains thirdparty software, Apple has no express or implied obligation to provide any technical or other support for such software. Please contact the appropriate software vendor ormanufacturer directly for technical support and customer service related to its software and products"
Why are people upset that Apple didn't put the newest Flash Player into SL right before it was pressed and delivered? It's not like they printed it the same day you bought it. Next someone will be upset that iWork needs an update and "they just installed it, why isn't it the new one!?"