Snow Leopard Installation Downgrades Flash Player to Vulnerable Version

[Eidorian]

Actually....

They only update the disks every few OS updates.

Yeah they pressed new retail discs for 10.5.2 10.5.4, and 10.5.6. What of it?

I don't think the need for Apple to do it after 10.6.1 is that great.

 

[Infrared]

If a user doesn't realize that re-installing their OS will, well, re-install the OS (back to a certain tested baseline), then their own absurd expectations (that they would never have in any other area of their life, where common sense tends to kick in more often) are reprehensible.

Flash is not part of the OS. It's an extra.

 

[avidmacuser]

In my view this is a minor issue as it's really up to the end user to ensure that they have the latest patched versions of third-party software.

When the user has done so (ensuring they have the latest version) and some other installation package writes over that without informing you and without indication leaving you vulnerable, I'd say that was a major issue.

And of course, you've done exhaustive testing to discover that Snow Leopard is the cause of these problems.

Get real, kid.

Didnt have the same problems under 10.5.8 so no matter where the cause lies, from this end users perspective, its what matters the most.

But it was Apple's job to DOWNGRADE your Flash player?

It's not like Apple is some stupid company that didn't know how to check if your Mac is running certain versions of Flash or any other software. Apple obviously did this for a reason.

How is snow Leopard? Is it worth the upgrade?
Yes, my MacBook Pro is significantly faster on everything (I timed stuff with Leopard too).
-Apps launch close to instantly (they allows took 4-6 bounces in Leopard).
-Faster Startup/Shutdown/Sleep/Wake
-Better response in apps

Snow Leopard was well worth $29; it's what Leopard should have been. Also, if you have Exchange- you NEED this.

Yes its like a Ferrari with a loose steering wheel. Got up to 100MPH real quick and crashed real hard... several times on all sorts of roads. I'm happy doing 60MPH getting where I need to go. Until that steering issue is fixed at least till then and a little longer. Precious cargo onboard.

Ugh, wtf? "The Snow Leopard Installer" didn't do it. The user did it. If you don't expect that an OS reinstall will set the software that it includes to a certain tested baseline that in some cases may be a "downgrade" from certain of your most recent updates... well, that's sad for you, but it's YOUR PROBLEM. You installed it, and you unfortunately have totally unreasonable expectations.

It'd be nice if the Flash plugin were sane like every other internet software in existence and took responsibility for its own security updates, but since it doesn't, your beef is with Adobe. Not Apple.

And every installation of Windows, along with every other OS ever made in history, does this. Sorry to break it to you. It's just a fact of life until someone comes up with something better.

Were we not 'expecting something better'?

Ugh, wtf? "The Snow Leopard Installer" didn't do it. The user did it. If you don't expect that an OS reinstall will set the software that it includes to a certain tested baseline that in some cases may be a "downgrade" from certain of your most recent updates... well, that's sad for you, but it's YOUR PROBLEM. You installed it, and you unfortunately have totally unreasonable expectations. ...

So just to try to understand your point on this... Given the above reasoning; In the event there was a security vulnerability within the encryption process communication of a browser when doing internet banking for example, is the user to blame for using his/her computer to be doing banking activities with the computer... or the party responsible for ensuring security in its communication structures?

...and how would disclaimers / agreements as well as 'paid for' services relate to those variables?

BTW I do understand your point and it may hold some validity especially when I do consider that when re-installing your OS after some time and many updates have been issued, the user would then of course still be responsible for updating their system (including third party applications) to the latest versions. I suppose thats where the disclaimers / user license agreements come into the picture!?

 

[peterdevries]

I didn't realize that my flash player does not update itself

You have been reported for consistently spamming in all of your posts.

Get lost.

 

[avidmacuser]

Flash is not part of the OS. It's an extra.

Perhaps there is a fine line of considering it part of the OS or not if and when its not an option during installation!?

 

[CanonicalKoi]

Absolutely not. I purchased it along with a brand new Mac Pro. I was using Leopard for about a week until Snow came in. Nothing but beauty from Leopard, with Snow- nothing but problems.
-cannot access PowerPoint
-shuts down randomly and restarts
-cannot link with Network server adequately
-Illustrator does this weird graphics thing if I nudge an item

Individually nothing serious, but overall, sucks ass. DO NOT BUY SNOW LEOPARD.
At least til they figure out their issues.

Are you in the US? I bought a MBP on release day and Snow Leopard came in the box, with my Mac, for free. And I haven't had any of the problems you report. No random shut down/restarts, my wireless networking is working fin, Illustrator working fine, etc. I don't know about PP because I haven't any reason to mess with it.