Phones So, I can pay $650 for just an iPhone or $550 for a Galaxy Nexus PLUS Nexus tablet?!

[0m3ga]

Please try to troll harder next time. Being as obvious as your response above invalidates whatever you say that much more

He's just a little kid and it's summer break. That's why he is able to post now and just signed up. Just set him on ignore in settings. In a month and a half, he'll be back in jr. High school.

 

[onthecouchagain]

You no longer need widgets to toggle system features like mute, wifi, bt, etc.. It's built into the expanded notification center. Of course, on the S2 and S3 if you want to silence the phone, just lay the phone facing down on a flat surface.

Was comparing to iOS.

 

[Big.Mac.Daddy]

The best product? They are on Jelly Bean (4.1) and more than half of Android users are still on 2.2 .

Please READ my response your quoting silly

I said "The Nexus line". I didnt say "All Android Devices"

Android is open sourced so the OEM's can do whatever they want, and usually they screw the customer by holding back updates to force them to upgrade (just like Apple does) because that's how they make their money is by selling hardware.

Google isn't tainted trying to make money off of you through hardware. Google's Nexus line of devices is a pure experience where you don't have to worry about getting ripped off the way you do with Apple and the iPhone (or the OEM's and random non nexus android phones).

 

[Technarchy]

Please try to troll harder next time. Being as obvious as your response above invalidates whatever you say that much more

There is a reason google is going down market, bargain bin on their Nexus line of devices. That's the only value those products command from the market. People won't pay more for trash, so the price is lowered to sucker the unsuspecting.

The GNEX is younger than the 4S and that phone already has lost half of its value.

 

[Big.Mac.Daddy]

There is a reason google is going down market, bargain bin on their Nexus line of devices. That's the only value those products command from the market. People won't pay more for trash, so the price is lowered to sucker the unsuspecting.

The GNEX is younger than the 4S and that phone already has lost half of its value.

Thank you for heeding my advice. Troll responses like this make it that much easier to spot

As for the lower price that's because they aren't trying to make a couple of dollars off hardware, they make almost all of their $ through advertising, so they don't need to screw over customers by gouging them on hardware prices the way Apple does.

 

[depths]

Technarchy the Nexus tablet is priced to compete with lower end products because there's a market for lower end tablets, not because that's all people will pay for tablets running Android.

You can't see the appeal in a $200 tablet running pure Jelly Bean for reading books, magazines, watching movies, browsing reddit?

It will probably sell pretty well despite the new threat from Microsoft and the clearly superiour hardware in the IPad 3 (which I own).

You seem to have a real vendetta against all things Android. Sucks if you had a bad experiance with a Galaxy S2/Android in the past but there's been a lot of ground covered in the past year and it's not a bad place to be right now.

As I've mentioned I use pretty much everything. I've got a desktop dual booting Windows and Linux, a Macbook Pro, an IPad 3 and a Galaxy Nexus. I'm not biased towards any platform.

 

[aristobrat]

As for the lower price that's because they aren't trying to make a couple of dollars off hardware, they make almost all of their $ through advertising, so they don't need to screw over customers by gouging them on hardware prices the way Apple does.

So since every other phone manufacture follows Apple's model (making a couple of dollars off hardware) and not Google's model (make almost all of their $ through advertising), using your logic, every phone manufacturer other than Google gouges customers on hardware prices.

Does Google sell a $99 model phone and a $0 model phone, like Apple does?

 

[Technarchy]

As for the lower price that's because they aren't trying to make a couple of dollars off hardware, they make almost all of their $ through advertising, so they don't need to screw over customers by gouging them on hardware prices the way Apple does.

Considering all of the money android handset makers pull in is from hardware sales what does that say about HTC, Samsung, LG, and everyone else...

 

[aristobrat]

Considering all of the money android handset makers pull in is from hardware sales what does that say about HTC, Samsung, LG, and everyone else...

$199 = Apple iPhone 4s
$199 = Samsung Galaxy III
$199 = Motorola DROID 4
$199 = HTC One X
$199 = HTC Titan 2
$229 = RIM BlackBerry Bold 9930
$249 = Samsung Galaxy Note
$299 = Motorola DROID RAZR MAXX

If Apple is gouging at $199, ... ???

 

[Dmunjal]

Look at list prices, not subsidized US carrier prices.

 

[aristobrat]

Look at list prices, not subsidized US carrier prices.

Those are the prices that I (and hundreds of million other consumers) pay when we buy a new phone.

 

[depths]

Yes but you can't compare the price direct from the Google Play Store or Apple Store to subsidised vendor prices because the latter has choosen to make the device available at a chosen price so they can secure a contract for a set period of time.

 

[0m3ga]

Yes but you can't compare the price direct from the Google Play Store or Apple Store to subsidised vendor prices because the latter has choosen to make the device available at a chosen price so they can secure a contract for a set period of time.

No contract pricing for 16GB U.S. models:

iPhone 4S - $649 (nearly year old tech, and this is the list price as of June 7, 2012.)
Samsung Galaxy S3 - $549 (list price from AT&T as of 6 June. You can not buy a Us version of the S3 direct from Samsung. You have to go through a carrier.)

I bought my versions at these prices. I don't do contracts with carriers.

 

[Dmunjal]

Why do US carriers subsisize iPhones more than Android to the tune on $100 per phone that goes straight to Apple? Either Android phones should be $99 or iPhones should be $299.

 

[DodgeV83]

ugh not you again. It does not beat android in all benchmarks.

All benchmarks? No. All CPU benchmarks? Yes.

 

[cyks]

Why do US carriers subsisize iPhones more than Android to the tune on $100 per phone that goes straight to Apple? Either Android phones should be $99 or iPhones should be $299.

Greed.
People (historically) have no problem paying $200, but hesitate for anything above... and there's no reason to sell Androids at $99 when the same people will be willing to pay $199 for it.

 

[blackhand1001]

All benchmarks? No. All CPU benchmarks? Yes.

No, not true. But no ones gonna convince you otherwise.

 

[depths]

You can not buy a Us version of the S3 direct from Samsung. You have to go through a carrier.)

I'm not too familiar with how things work in America regarding carriers (Australian).

So you can buy an international version that will work in your country but wont have 4g, unlocked or a local version from Verizon, ATT ect with modified hardware and 4g on contract or unlocked. Is that correct?

 

[0m3ga]

I'm not too familiar with how things work in America regarding carriers (Australian).

So you can buy an international version that will work in your country but wont have 4g, unlocked or a local version from Verizon, ATT ect with modified hardware and 4g on contract or unlocked. Is that correct?

Exactly. You described it perfectly. (Although it's LTE, vice 4G. My understanding is, the same version you have in Oz can run at HSPA+/4G speeds, here in the US. Not nearly as fast as LTE, but faster than 3G.)

By the way, spent a bit of time down in Oz (Perth) about 15 years ago. Awesome place and great people!

 

[depths]

Perth is excellent but our sharks like to eat people

 

[blackhand1001]

Wow running the preview build of jelly bean on my verizon nexus and holy crap this is smooth. I thought ics was butter smooth but this is even smoother. It even makes ios seem a little laggy. I can't wait for my nexus 7 to come. The tegra 3 was definitely a little smoother in ics based on playing with the transformer prime at the store and it must be crazy in jellybean. Gosh 2 weeks can;t come soon enough.

 

[Calidude]

Wow running the preview build of jelly bean on my verizon nexus and holy crap this is smooth. I thought ics was butter smooth but this is even smoother. It even makes ios seem a little laggy.

I just got it too and I would say at the very least that the average person wouldn't be able to tell which one lags behind the other.

Just wait until this gets officially made into a custom ROM and given the Linaro treatment. It will be amazing.

 

[0m3ga]

Wow running the preview build of jelly bean on my verizon nexus and holy crap this is smooth. I thought ics was butter smooth but this is even smoother. It even makes ios seem a little laggy. I can't wait for my nexus 7 to come. The tegra 3 was definitely a little smoother in ics based on playing with the transformer prime at the store and it must be crazy in jellybean. Gosh 2 weeks can;t come soon enough.

It's called 'Operation: Smooth as Butter" The boys working in the mobile OS department at Google have been working over time.

I'm gonna wait for the official rom to hit, sinse I am already on 4.0.4 with the S3. I honestly don't know how they can make my phone operate any faster or smoother, since it is already at 60fps? Although I do like the dynamic resizing of icons/widgets, plus the flicking icons off your screen to delete them. Pretty cool. (I'm sure Apple will copy this feature soon.)

 

[dontwalkhand]

Those are the prices that I (and hundreds of million other consumers) pay when we buy a new phone.

Gah I wish that changes soon. That is the reason why iPhones drop in value so much as well! (Why should I buy your iPhone if I can get a new one for $199?)

 

[pyro008]

I am not sure why you call it blind devotion because someone chooses to buy an Iphone, or for that matter a Nexus whatever. Apple does not steal your money. They offer a product for a price. If you don't like the price, don't buy it. They do not force me to buy. And I am not sure that google steals information any more than any other technology company.

Its not buying a phone that suggests a devotion, its coming in here and arguing about how one is so much better than the other.