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So M1 Max with 32 Core GPU matches RTX 3080 Mobile.
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It's a good question. Xcode says "Very high" energy usage on the Air, but only "High" on the M1 Max, so I have no idea why it isn't pushing harder.
On a positive note, I just installed World of Warcraft and it runs at 100% native resolution at 70 frames per second with everything maxed out, which is really impressive (and over 100 fps if you lower the graphics a tiny bit)
This is a good possibility. I also have a ton of iCloud stuff that is probably syncing in the background too.
Even this page is currently giving the classic safari "This web page is using significant energy" thing which is a bit weird.
I'll try giving it a bit of time, and also upgrading from macOS 12.0 to 12.0.1 and see if that helps.
Dude, with virtualisation you can't use all system resources, so basically with Parallels you can only dedicate like 50% of the cores and memory to Parallels where with Crossover you can use everything which explains the difference in performance.
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I found out what it was. If I disable Pro Motion my Metal app suddenly runs at a locked 60 fps, if I turn on Pro Motion then the frame-rate tanks to 40 fps.
That's not great. I wonder if Apple have pulled another "you need a secret item in your plist to actually make your app work properly" again like they did with the iPhone 13 Pros.
I wonder how many games and benchmarks are getting hit by this too...
That's not great. I wonder if Apple have pulled another "you need a secret item in your plist to actually make your app work properly" again like they did with the iPhone 13 Pros.
I wonder how many games and benchmarks are getting hit by this too...
All fair and good, but not running with all resources is one thing. It's another to say Parallels can only run Solitaire and Minesweeper, which is just not true.
One thing that has impressed me immensely is Apple's "Modern Renderer" sample. It runs at 11 fps @ 6k on my M1 Air, and a locked 60 fps @ 6k on the M1 Max.
That's more than a 4x speed-up over the M1, so it's not just the extra cores that are helping out here.
It also shows that 6k gaming with decent graphics is possible on the M1 Max if someone makes a game with an engine actually designed for Apple Silicon.
That's more than a 4x speed-up over the M1, so it's not just the extra cores that are helping out here.
It also shows that 6k gaming with decent graphics is possible on the M1 Max if someone makes a game with an engine actually designed for Apple Silicon.
What is this "Modern Renderer" sample? A part of the Xcode for Metal devkit? Just curious!
What is this "Modern Renderer" sample? A part of the Xcode for Metal devkit? Just curious!
Modern Rendering with Metal | Apple Developer Documentation
Use advanced Metal features such as indirect command buffers, sparse textures, and variable rate rasterization to implement complex rendering techniques.
How are you presenting your drawables? It is of course possible that there is a bug in Metal/macOS. ProMotion on Mac is so new, I don't think many people have much experience with it. I watched the WWDC videos but never actually tried the APIs
Games and benchmarks built on Big Sur or earlier are probably not affected since macOS will run then in compatibility mode, with ProMotion disabled.
Oh you brought me back with this post.
The battles I had in school about Commodore vs Atari were legendary lol
I still have the 1200 with CF and when I get really nostalgic I play pirates
Great times.
Lots of C4D and Redshift but not in English. In the comments he says it feels equal to a 1080ti.
So this animator has been doing a series on the M1 and Apple loaned him a 14” M1 Max to play with. Here are their thoughts and some benchmarks:
“The wider takeaway here though is that in order to give the M1 Max some real competition, one has to skip laptop chips entirely and reach for not just high end desktop chips, but for server-class workstation hardware to really beat the M1 Max. For workloads that push the CPU to maximum utilization for sustained periods of time, such as production-quality path traced rendering, the M1 Max represents a fundamental shift in what is possible in a laptop form factor. Something even more exciting to think about is how the M1 Max really is the middle tier Apple Silicon solution; presumably the large iMac and Mac Pro will push things into even more absurd territory.”
“The wider takeaway here though is that in order to give the M1 Max some real competition, one has to skip laptop chips entirely and reach for not just high end desktop chips, but for server-class workstation hardware to really beat the M1 Max. For workloads that push the CPU to maximum utilization for sustained periods of time, such as production-quality path traced rendering, the M1 Max represents a fundamental shift in what is possible in a laptop form factor. Something even more exciting to think about is how the M1 Max really is the middle tier Apple Silicon solution; presumably the large iMac and Mac Pro will push things into even more absurd territory.”
Wow, I have always wanted a computer to render... a forest canopy?So this animator has been doing a series on the M1 and Apple loaned him a 14” M1 Max to play with. Here are their thoughts and some benchmarks:
“The wider takeaway here though is that in order to give the M1 Max some real competition, one has to skip laptop chips entirely and reach for not just high end desktop chips, but for server-class workstation hardware to really beat the M1 Max. For workloads that push the CPU to maximum utilization for sustained periods of time, such as production-quality path traced rendering, the M1 Max represents a fundamental shift in what is possible in a laptop form factor. Something even more exciting to think about is how the M1 Max really is the middle tier Apple Silicon solution; presumably the large iMac and Mac Pro will push things into even more absurd territory.”
I’m using MetalKit which handles all the CVDisplayLink stuff automatically. My problems went away when I set the MetalKit view's preferredFramesPerSecond to 120, which then locked it to 60hz. Presumably there is some kind of double-waiting going on. I'm not doing anything too special, so I'm definitely blaming MetalKitHow are you presenting your drawables? It is of course possible that there is a bug in Metal/macOS. ProMotion on Mac is so new, I don't think many people have much experience with it. I watched the WWDC videos but never actually tried the APIs
And? It’s a complex scene the animator uses to stress the renderer. No different than a benchmark. ?♂️
Unknown if the memory bandwidth will scale like this when stitching two or four M1 Max SoCs together.
If the redesign of the 27" iMac (Pro) is anything like the ultra-slim 24" iMac, I could see a M1 Max Duo in there, but I would be unsure about a M1 Max Quadro?
Here is an article from January 15, 2021 which mentions 64-core & 128-core GPUs from Apple.
Here is another article from May 18, 2021 which gives more Mac Pro rumors, including the Jade 2C & Jade 4C multi-SoC configurations.
Seems like your imagination was highly influenced by the last six months of rumors? ;^p
That's great to hear about WoW, just because it's one of the only native games or the platform. Wonder how the 16-core GPU will handle it?
What did you expect, a reflective chrome sphere floating in 3D space?
^^^ This right here!
I know he says the dataset has too many branches, but I wonder if the M1 Max GPU could help render faster.