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Think I’m the only one who hates the idea of flat sides. It’s too industrial-looking for me. Plus it will be more uncomfortable to hold.
 
use the ipad and compare it to the iphone, or just use the older iphones like the 5s, you will see that it is much more easier to use than the curved iphones

there is a reason why samsung is going back to less curved edges, good thing apple didnt do the 3d curves but then again even the less curves is not providing any usage at all.

flat edges is better for daily use and for screen cover.
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It makes too much sense for the iPhone 12 (including the smaller 5.4”) to retain the older rounded design.

This will differentiate the newer iPhone 12 Pro phones and their redesign reminiscent to the iPhone 4/5 even more.


that will just make the production get even more expensive if they have different designs for models. the flat edges is cheaper to make than the rounded edges, so no way they will make the rounded edges for the less expensive iphones.
 
I think they'll have the boxed edges on the pro models as well as 120hz and the LiDAR Scanner.

The non pro models will get the same reduced notch, oled panel with higher PPI with new processor and aluminium edges. It will keep the curved edges.

I could be wrong though of course we'll have to wait and see.

I for one hope they do get the boxed design though as I loved the iPhone 5 design but no way I'm paying £1000 plus for a phone.
 
that will just make the production get even more expensive if they have different designs for models. the flat edges is cheaper to make than the rounded edges, so no way they will make the rounded edges for the less expensive iphones.
Apple have been making rounded curved phones for almost 6 years.

I'm sure they can make them for dirt cheap.
 
This would be disappointing. I like flat edges much better for one handed operation. I find the design of the 6 (and similar) slippery.
 
Think I’m the only one who hates the idea of flat sides. It’s too industrial-looking for me. Plus it will be more uncomfortable to hold.

It’s funny you mention the comfortability point to hold the flat edges. My experience with the SE, was exactly that, the edges were kind of sharper along the sides, making it uncomfortable to hold for longer periods, where as the rounded corners (of the 6+ & above) fit ergonomically better in the hand, and is far more comfortable. I know this is nitpicking, but this is something that I observed with my usage with the SE over my course of usage.
 
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Apple have been making rounded curved phones for almost 6 years.

I'm sure they can make them for dirt cheap.

you dont understand

the more supplies needed the better leverage they can negotiate to the supplier.

dividing the supplies into flat and rounded screens will not make them able to buy in bigger bulk which will get them better offers


not only that,

they are also making all iphones OLED because they were able to get lower prices by ordering a bigger number of oled rather than ordering a smaller number of lcd and smaller number of oled.

that's what is said by their screen suppliers.
 
No way does the normal 12 models have the new design

the 5.4 will use the iPhone 8 frame and the 6'1 will use the 11 frame.

Apple are kings of being cheap and reusing parts
 
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Regardless how good of a design is, it's nice to cycle through the various designs to cater to different people with different tastes, and those who get bored and want to switch it up. The rounded sides are easier on the hand, but I find it to be more prone to slippage. If the iPhone 12 or iPhone SE 2021 is like the iPhone 5 design, that would be an instant buy for me.
 
you dont understand
You don’t understand basic marketing.

Apple wants to differentiate their Pro models from their regular iPhone models as much as possible, and this means that they will get the new exclusive redesign and the regular iPhones won’t.

No one would be interested in the new Pro models when the regular models look the same and are considerably cheaper. That’s why this time around with the iPhone 12’s that won’t happen.

Apple are kings of being cheap and reusing parts
Not only that, but Apple are the kings of marketing.

No way in hell will the new iPhone 12 Pros look the same as the regular iPhone 12’s. The Pros will get the redesign, the regular iPhones won’t.
 
As much as I love the box-like feel of the iPad Pro, iPhone 4/4s, and iPhone 5/5s, Apple's track record for perceived issues with each first-generation chassis has not been stellar. If the iPhone is truly on a 3-year cycle for chassis design, then I'll upgrade only every 3rd year on the last iteration of each chassis.

Off the top of my head...

iPhone 4: Antenna reception issues
iPhone 5: Bending issues
iPhone 6: Bending issues + "touch disease" repair program
iPhone X: Screen repair program
 
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As much as I love the box-like feel of the iPad Pro, iPhone 4/4s, and iPhone 5/5s, Apple's track record for perceived issues with each first-generation chassis has not been stellar. If the iPhone is truly on a 3-year cycle for chassis design, then I'll upgrade only every 3rd year on the last iteration of each chassis.

Off the top of my head...

iPhone 4: Antenna reception issues
iPhone 5: Bending issues
iPhone 6: Bending issues + "touch disease" repair program
iPhone X: Screen repair program

I don't recall the iPhone 5 having bending issues - must be me or the rear pocket pants holster crowd.

The iPhone 7 (yes it was a new design as camera bump differed and for IP-dust/water resistance rating) had Bluetooth / Wireless connectivity issues.
 
I don't recall the iPhone 5 having bending issues - must be me or the rear pocket pants holster crowd.

The iPhone 7 (yes it was a new design as camera bump differed and for IP-dust/water resistance rating) had Bluetooth / Wireless connectivity issues.

I don't remember those issues with the 7, but I wouldn't consider the 7 to be an entirely new chassis. I consider the 6, 6s, 7, and 8 essentially share a common chassis platform and design language.
 
I don't remember those issues with the 7, but I wouldn't consider the 7 to be an entirely new chassis. I consider the 6, 6s, 7, and 8 essentially share a common chassis platform and design language.


I hurt you're right about the 7 however Apple did strengthen the aluminium (aluminum = us) of the 7 onward due to the bend issues on the 6/6s. The antennae lines also changed on the 7 vs the 6/6S and the 8 kept what the 7 had, just a more flat camera bump and not so rounded around the edges.
 
You don’t understand basic marketing.

Apple wants to differentiate their Pro models from their regular iPhone models as much as possible, and this means that they will get the new exclusive redesign and the regular iPhones won’t.

No one would be interested in the new Pro models when the regular models look the same and are considerably cheaper. That’s why this time around with the iPhone 12’s that won’t happen.

Not only that, but Apple are the kings of marketing.

No way in hell will the new iPhone 12 Pros look the same as the regular iPhone 12’s. The Pros will get the redesign, the regular iPhones won’t.
I think people are denying this because they don't want it to be true. But I agree with you. I think it makes more sense to have your Pro models look different beyond the materials of the edges. There is a huge monetary premium between Pro and non-Pro models.

It would also be weird if they released two 6.1" models this fall and they looked identical except for the cameras on the back.
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Please just no curved edges like the Note or S series Samsung devices. Keep it flat, please thanks, Me! :)
I doubt Apple would ever go with curved edges. I think we are safe on that front. :)
 
all fones will get new design, the fact that they all fones are getting OLED, no sense in not making all the fones flat edges

when the flat edges is easier to make than curve

also it has always been for every iphone release that all fones are similar in design (except the 8 series/x)
but 5s/5c, 6/6plus, 6s/6splus, 7/7plus, xs/xsmax/xr, 11/11 pro/11 pro max.

difference is just in material

with 5s/5c the colors and metal back, xr/11 getting aluminum and x/xs/11 pros getting steel.

Well from 11 to 11 Pro is not just a question of material. The screen frame of the 11 is noticeable thicker that the Pros, and FMPOV makes the phone to look really ugly. They are even thicker than the left/right bezels of an iPhone 8!
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What about this? I think that was one of the first rumours that said that the 5.4 will be considered as Pro.

Hypothetically the lineup would be something like that:

6.1" iPhone 12 (rounded edges, similar design to 11/XR) '- price 699$
5.4" iPhone 12 Pro Min :) - New design 899$
6.1" iPhone 12 Pro - New design - 999$
6.7" iPhone 12 Pro Max - New design - 1099$

Also thinking in price, in case that both 5.4" and 6.1" are mid-end, how would be the 5.4" priced? 599$? Seems to low for a brand new iPhone model.
 
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My guess? flat edges for all four phones, 120HZ display for pro's only. price wise? XR goes away. 11 goes down to $599. $699 for the 5.4 inch new phone, $799 for the 6.1, and then $999 for the pro starting price.

Or they keep the XR for one more year at $500 or $550. That way they have every price point from $400-1200. Which is great looking for a menu. Something for everyone.

This works out for me, since I went from wanting the SE for the smaller size to waiting for the smaller 12. I just gotta have Night Mode and want OLED too... and the same size screen (more or less) to my 6s+. I've had it since launch, and could see keeping the new phone for at least 4 years. What's five more months for me now? So i'm in for hopefully the rumored blue 12 5.4 inch with 256GB

Also, I really, really hope that the regular 12 gets apple leather cases. It's a shame the 11 doesn't have them.
 
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Well from 11 to 11 Pro is not just a question of material. The screen frame of the 11 is noticeable thicker that the Pros, and FMPOV makes the phone to look really ugly. They are even thicker than the left/right bezels of an iPhone 8!
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What about this? I think that was one of the first rumours that said that the 5.4 will be considered as Pro.

Hypothetically the lineup would be something like that:

6.1" iPhone 12 (rounded edges, similar design to 11/XR) '- price 699$
5.4" iPhone 12 Pro Min :) - New design 899$
6.1" iPhone 12 Pro - New design - 999$
6.7" iPhone 12 Pro Max - New design - 1099$

Also thinking in price, in case that both 5.4" and 6.1" are mid-end, how would be the 5.4" priced? 599$? Seems to low for a brand new iPhone model.
There will only be two Pro models. One of the 6.1" models and the 6.7" model. The 5.4" and the other 6.1" model are the iPhone 12's. Use the current lineup as a good reference point for the price.

5.4" iPhone 12 $699
6.1" iPhone 12 Plus $799
6.1" iPhone 12 Pro $999
6.7" iPhone 12 Pro Max $1099
 
Off topic, but how cool would it have been to get a proper SE2 the same size as the original but in the style of an iPhone 8. Like an “iPhone 8 mini”.

That would be my personal dream phone. Even the 4.7” screen is *slightly* too big in my opinion (as someone who likes small phones).
 
Off topic, but how cool would it have been to get a proper SE2 the same size as the original but in the style of an iPhone 8. Like an “iPhone 8 mini”.

That would be my personal dream phone. Even the 4.7” screen is *slightly* too big in my opinion (as someone who likes small phones).

Highly doubtful that would ever be feasible. It seems that whole point of an SE design is to use an old (but popular) chassis to keep costs down, while transplanting the newest SOC.

I could definitely see a 3rd generation SE in a few years, perhaps based on an A17 chip in a XR chassis.
 
I don't remember those issues with the 7, but I wouldn't consider the 7 to be an entirely new chassis. I consider the 6, 6s, 7, and 8 essentially share a common chassis platform and design language.

Those issues with the iPhone 7 were very much in existence that member mentioned. Plus, the boot loop and haptic home button seizure of the haptic engine were other noted faults.
 
I'm so conflicted, I really want the smaller 5.4 but really love the design with flat edges. If I had to choose I think I would abandon my dreams of a smaller phone and get the 6.1. Let's hope we're able to get our cake and eat it too!
 
Well from 11 to 11 Pro is not just a question of material. The screen frame of the 11 is noticeable thicker that the Pros, and FMPOV makes the phone to look really ugly. They are even thicker than the left/right bezels of an iPhone 8!
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What about this? I think that was one of the first rumours that said that the 5.4 will be considered as Pro.

Hypothetically the lineup would be something like that:

6.1" iPhone 12 (rounded edges, similar design to 11/XR) '- price 699$
5.4" iPhone 12 Pro Min :) - New design 899$
6.1" iPhone 12 Pro - New design - 999$
6.7" iPhone 12 Pro Max - New design - 1099$

Also thinking in price, in case that both 5.4" and 6.1" are mid-end, how would be the 5.4" priced? 599$? Seems to low for a brand new iPhone model.

they named the iPhone 12 5.4 as iPhone 12 lite, several leaks said that
 
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