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I followed the link:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/2006-2007-mac-pro-1-1-2-1-and-os-x-el-capitan.1890435/
It is very easy to setup. Just use old MacPro as target disk and install the new OS to it with the help of another Mac.
Then replace the boot.efi in your old Mac Pro.
Remember you need a compatible display card. Or you can use any PC display card, but you just cannot see the boot up screen.
SIP can still be disabled right?
The day SIP can't be disabled, I'm out.
The day SIP can't be disabled, I'm out.
It can be disabled but I think you have to go to safe mode/restored mode and go to terminal and manually type it in.
I'm doing the same thing I did before the nMP came to be... I'm starting to get worried that when I need to upgrade, I won't be able to. I'm on a completely max'd out nMP, so I don't really have any upward movement at all. The good part of doing that is that I can go strong for years and not worry about it... but as we hit these 3+ year cycles, I start getting nervous.
I'm not in the same boat as a lot of you guys, though. I don't do hardcore video editing, I'm mostly doing graphics and audio stuff, and I run some custom social media software that's RAM intensive, but I'm not blowing these machines to the edge like you all... so I can be a lot more patient.
If I ever feel like I can't wait any longer, I'll bounce to a PC. But most begrudgingly... as I'm tied into the Apple ecosystem fairly thoroughly, and it'd be a shame to start peeling myself out in layers. But I'll go where the performance is, when I need it... if that's not Apple.
iPadPublisher and others got me thinking about the challenge some here will have when they decide to undo their Apple eco system in favour of non-Apple devices (and associated software).
Where will those interested in moving over or at least running a mixed environment start?
In my case, one of the first items I switched over (pardon wording) was going from Airport Extreme to a non-Apple router. This has been an excellent move all around and especially in the case of my NAS units. Where would you folks imagine yourself starting on mixed or undoing an Apple eco system? (I run both WiFi and Ethernet to computers, entertainment systems, streamers etc.).
Where will those interested in moving over or at least running a mixed environment start?
In my case, one of the first items I switched over (pardon wording) was going from Airport Extreme to a non-Apple router. This has been an excellent move all around and especially in the case of my NAS units. Where would you folks imagine yourself starting on mixed or undoing an Apple eco system? (I run both WiFi and Ethernet to computers, entertainment systems, streamers etc.).
As regards the poll: I transitioned to the HP Z840 running Windows 10 from a Mac Pro Westmere system. No regrets. Windows 10 (upon clean install) is the most stable of all OSs I have used (all Mac OSs since 9.x, and Windows OSs back to 3.1). I haven't really missed a thing from the Mac side. Switching really is no big deal with regard to MacOS vs Windows, imho. This is just my opinion, of course. Cheers folks.
May I ask what config you got (other than dual 6's)? I am researching a single 6 but all those options get my head spinning at times. Too used to Apple's limited options
May I ask what config you got (other than dual 6's)? I am researching a single 6 but all those options get my head spinning at times. Too used to Apple's limited options
Take a look at the z640. The z840 is a full-size case and may be overkill for many. I'm looking at HP and Supermicro boxes. The Supermicro offer a lot more bang for your buck than the HP, so that's something to consider.
I transitioned my shop to full FCPX three years ago. While there are many who don't like FCPX, I do, and use it to make my entire living. It would be a major pain to switch to PC and Adobe given my investment in FCPX. I don't think apple is going to stop making hardware that runs FCPX best unless they are also discontinuing FCPX. Since they already shared visions of the future of that suite at NAB, I'm not worried about that happening.
What does worry me is the possibility that apple's top of the line hardware becomes good for FCPX but bad for everything else. Some would say we're already there but not in my individual case. I do a lot of batch encoding that cannot be practically handled in the cloud due to turnaround so for me, it would be a pain if I can't continue to buy 12 core machines that can handle encoding in the evenings while running FCPX during the day.
Long story short: I will stick with FCPX and whatever hardware apple produces for that platform. If I have to transition my encoding to the PC side I will do so. It won't be the end of the world but it will be less convenient.
What does worry me is the possibility that apple's top of the line hardware becomes good for FCPX but bad for everything else. Some would say we're already there but not in my individual case. I do a lot of batch encoding that cannot be practically handled in the cloud due to turnaround so for me, it would be a pain if I can't continue to buy 12 core machines that can handle encoding in the evenings while running FCPX during the day.
Long story short: I will stick with FCPX and whatever hardware apple produces for that platform. If I have to transition my encoding to the PC side I will do so. It won't be the end of the world but it will be less convenient.
The reason I looked at a z840 was because it seemed to be designed to run very cool with it's 3 sections, it's all tool free and has an overall well designed look to it. As I recall it was about $500 difference between the two and I thought maybe the build was worth the difference??
I have also been looking at Puget Systems Genesis 1 boxes if you know about them. They seem to be more like the z640. Like I said in my previous post, the options are enough to make one's head spin.
Long retired, having been with Apple since Apple II. Can't go Windows, though, Just. Can't. Do. It. Hence Linux, which allows for easy transfer of my docs, etc.
Thats impressive. The Macintosh was released on January 24, 1984 so you have been using Macintosh computers for 32 years.
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Thats your reason for Linux, because you can easily transfer your docs? Since document transfer is a one time process and is just as easy as done on Linux as it is on Windows that is a very poor reason for choosing Linux. I am not saying that you should not choose Linux but if that is your strong point for choosing Linux you might want to give it some more thought.
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No, that's not his reason for using Linux. It's obvious from his wording he has an irrational dislike of Windows and is unwilling to consider it as a result.
Remove the word "irrational" from your post, and you would be correct. The use of the word "irrational" supposes that you know something that I don't, but that itself is subjective.
Well, we managed 38 posts of polite discourse which I suppose is something these days. Thanks for bringing along your attitude and misreading skills.
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Okay slight exaggeration, first Mac I used was a Quadra 700. The first Mac I actually got paid to use was a Quadra 800 running System 7. Since then I've earned my living using most examples of the Mac nearly every day. So, not 32 years but 25 years. From a 2016 point of view that's most of the way back in my eyes although I'm sure there are a few System 6 veterans out there who consider me a newb. My original sentiments still stand.
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I remember 400k floppies. I used to design promo leaflets and take them over to the repro dept on (real)floppies. Now I deal in 2 gig images for display work I can't actually remember how we managed to transfer Quark files and images via floppy. I remember when Syquest 44meg disks came out, thought we'd never fill one of them!
I remember my first HD was 20mb I also tried SyQuest and a small optical drive which had cartridges that were designed and sized like the floppies with a sliding opening to the media. It's incredible how far the technology has improved in 32 years (and how much landfill it's created)
I also tried SyQuest and a small optical drive which had cartridges that were designed and sized like the floppies with a sliding opening to the media. It's incredible how far the technology has improved in 32 years (and how much landfill it's created)At the risk of derailing this thread...I remember my first HD was 20mb
I remember the first optical drives (Magneto Opticals) I seem to remember they were 250Mb, pre-dated CR-ROMs by a few years and were a real treat. I've still go a few kicking around (but no drive! really should land-fill them)
I still remember the clunk of a SyQuest cartridge locking into place!
Back on subject: The Mac's of the day were the biz (compared to anything else). Times have changed but I do agree that work practises continue to change and perhaps the old workflows are becoming redundant and the powerful desktop machines aren't going to be required in the future. Apple seems to be thinking that way anyhow.
I know Apple has always had a history of pioneering new technologies but it just seems like it went too far this time and is creating issues for it's pro users who up to this point, have always been loyal supporters.
From what I have read, more pros (like the video industry) are moving to Windows. I have a fondness for the macOS but it's getting to the point that it's like staying married for the sake of the kids.
From what I have read, more pros (like the video industry) are moving to Windows. I have a fondness for the macOS but it's getting to the point that it's like staying married for the sake of the kids.
For coding and scientific computing Linux (Ubuntu), recently did the switch. For graphical work, presentations and office work OS X. Would really like to stick with Mac only since the environment is superior to any Linux alternative, but Mac don't offer any serious workstation. Plus, I do much of my coding in cuda. I did a switch to Mac from Linux back in 2006 and hoped never to switch back, but unfortunately I see no other option. I use both, but I would prefer using Mac only.