Software With The Most Vulnerabilities

[Radon87000]

So youre posting an article that's from last year and already been remedied against a current threat affecting 90% of the android phones. Sure that's equivalent.

Ah so do you want me to post from 2016?

http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/16/acedeceiver_ios_malware/


It's on the Play Store.Google will remove it.p problem solved

Only those who install these apps are vulnerable.If you use common sense on both the Play Store and App Store you wouldn't suffer from these issues

 

[I7guy]

Ah so do you want me to post from 2016?


http://fortune.com/2016/03/16/malware-infect-apple-iphone-ipad/

It's on the Play Store.Google will remove it.

Only those who install these apps are vulnerable.If you use common sense on both the Play Store and App Store you wouldn't suffer from these issues

Let's take a step back. First what you quoted can't be a zero day vulnerability because it requires the use of itunes while at the same time being naive enough to download a windows malware program. Those who don't use itunes are not affected. The vector attack on that is so narrow as to be meaningless next to "godless", which can affect up to 90% of the android devices.

There are no known zero day vulnerabilities for iphone. There are certainly avenues for attack, like malware sneaking into the app store or downloading malware using a third party profile. Unlike android which CVE has a lot of red against some of the vulnerabilities. IOS, not so much.

 

[Radon87000]

Let's take a step back. First what you quoted can't be a zero day vulnerability because it requires the use of itunes while at the same time being naive enough to download a windows malware program. Those who don't use itunes are not affected. The vector attack on that is so narrow as to be meaningless next to "godless", which can affect up to 90% of the android devices.

There are no known zero day vulnerabilities for iphone. There are certainly avenues for attack, like malware sneaking into the app store or downloading malware using a third party profile. Unlike android which CVE has a lot of red against some of the vulnerabilities. IOS, not so much.

Nice double standards.For Godless to work you have to be naive enough to install apps from unknown developers.Quite similar to how 300 infected apps were on the App store

Also note Google Play Services on Android delivers security patches.And is also updated on 90% plus devices.Google will patch it soon

As I said chances of vulnerability affecting a device is very less if you have a Nexus:For and Apples to Apples comparison iPhone should be compared with Nexus

 

[I7guy]

Nice double standards.For Godless to work you have to be naive enough to install apps from unknown developers.Quite similar to how 300 infected apps were on the App store

Also note Google Play Services on Android delivers security patches.And is also updated on 90% plus devices.Google will patch it soon

As I said chances of vulnerability affecting a device is very less if you have a Nexus:For and Apples to Apples comparison iPhone should be compared with Nexus

Lol on the double standard thing; you're comparing a vulnerability which the vector of attack is so minute and restricted with an method where 90% of android users are vulnerable with rooting to boot?

 

[Radon87000]

Lol on the double standard thing; you're comparing a vulnerability which the vector of attack is so minute and restricted with an method where 90% of android users are vulnerable with rooting to boot?

And you completely ignore what I state and let me type this in CAPS.USER NEEDS TO INSTALL A MALICIOUS APPLICATION FROM AN UNKNOWN DEVELOPER FOR THE GODLESS MALWARE TO HACK INTO YOUR DEVICE.90% devices are only affected if the user dowloads it.No different than how Acedefender needs iTunes to hack into the iPhone and how all iPhones were vulnerable to it.

And in addition 10% of the LATEST Android devices are not affected which should be used in this comparison.You can't seriously expect a Chinese $100 smartphone (majority of the Android Market)to have the security of flagships.

Point to note which you don't take into consideration:

A Nexus 6P on Android M is as secure as iOS 9
A Galaxy S6 on Android Lollipop is as secure as iOS 8 which is easily hackable now.Android inherently is as secure as iOS But because of the budget devices the statistics get heavily skewed in the direction of crap phones.Hell Google issues Monthly security patches now

Comparing the security of a 2 year old Android version to the latest iOS is not a fair comparison

Show me how the latest Androids are vulnerable to attack

 

[lowendlinux]

http://www.informationweek.com/mobi...eats-ios-android-gartner-finds/d/d-id/1325145

Samsung Knox Security Beats iOS, Android, Gartner Finds

Apple's iPhone has received considerable attention for security that defied FBI investigators, but Samsung's Knox, an enterprise security layer for Android devices, scores better in a security evaluation conducted by research firm Gartner.

 

[AFEPPL]

This is just fanboy defending, the report and the DBs are correct for "known" issues.
Who knows what will come out or happen in the future. Facts are facts.

I dont have an android device, i run iOS and OS X but that doesn't mean i have dismiss the reality of what is...

 

[Radon87000]

http://www.informationweek.com/mobi...eats-ios-android-gartner-finds/d/d-id/1325145

Samsung Knox Security Beats iOS, Android, Gartner Finds

In my opinion Apple's security is overrated.

 

[lowendlinux]

In my opinion Apple's security is overrated.

I don't plan on buying either a Galaxy or an iPhone so I'm kind of indifferent.

Security always comes down to the computer/phone driver

 

[I7guy]

And you completely ignore what I state and let me type this in CAPS.USER NEEDS TO INSTALL A MALICIOUS APPLICATION FROM AN UNKNOWN DEVELOPER FOR THE GODLESS MALWARE TO HACK INTO YOUR DEVICE.90% devices are only affected if the user dowloads it.No different than how Acedefender needs iTunes to hack into the iPhone and how all iPhones were vulnerable to it.

And in addition 10% of the LATEST Android devices are not affected which should be used in this comparison.You can't seriously expect a Chinese $100 smartphone (majority of the Android Market)to have the security of flagships.

Point to note which you don't take into consideration:

A Nexus 6P on Android M is as secure as iOS 9
A Galaxy S6 on Android Lollipop is as secure as iOS 8 which is easily hackable now.Android inherently is as secure as iOS But because of the budget devices the statistics get heavily skewed in the direction of crap phones.Hell Google issues Monthly security patches now

Comparing the security of a 2 year old Android version to the latest iOS is not a fair comparison

Show me how the latest Androids are vulnerable to attack

YOU COMPLETLY IGNORED WHAT I SAID SO ILL TAKE YOUR ROUTE AND USE CAPS TO SAY THE VECTOR ON THIS IS SO SMALL TO BE MEANINGLESS. It's easier to download an app from the Google App Store than to get infected by installing Windows malware.

90% of the market share is Two year old android handsets to which this specific threat applies. Not good at all. These android handsets will likely never get updated due to lack of support, but ios8 is by choice. iOS 9 is supported since the 4s, 2011...5 years.
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In my opinion Apple's security is overrated.

Right, in your opinions on only.

This is installing an enterprise management product by one vendor against native iOS, which is not what is being discussed.

Android is still an insecure mess as "godless" proves.
http://www.howtogeek.com/224096/why-iphones-are-more-secure-than-android-phones/

 

[Radon87000]

YOU COMPLETLY IGNORED WHAT I SAID SO ILL TAKE YOUR ROUTE AND USE CAPS TO SAY THE VECTOR ON THIS IS SO SMALL TO BE MEANINGLESS. It's easier to download an app from the Google App Store than to get infected by installing Windows malware.

The malware was on an obscure app.Anyone who downloaded such an app was looking for trouble and those who look for trouble generally find it.If a person is knowledgable AND STUPID enough to download such apps the same user is more than capable of being a victim of ANY vulenrability

90% of the market share is Two year old android handsets to which this specific threat applies. Not good at all. These android handsets will likely never get updated due to lack of support, but ios8 is by choice. iOS 9 is supported since the 4s, 2011...5 years.
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Did anyone tell you that 75-80% of the global Android market is full of substandard budget phones?You get what you pay for.The people who paid for these Chinese phones dont and shouldnt expect any update support.If we are doing an apples to apples FAIR COMPARISON,an iPhone running iOS 9 will be compared to a FLAGSHIP Android running Marshmallow.

The latest version of Android DOES NOT SUFFER FROM IT as Google patched it.If I were to take an iPhone running iOS 8 (which are around 20% of the iOS devices which is still millions of devices) and exploit the 1970 bug is it fair to say that the iOS can rigged to brick the phone?

Right, in your opinions on only.

This is installing an enterprise management product by one vendor against native iOS, which is not what is being discussed.

Android is still an insecure mess as "godless" proves.
http://www.howtogeek.com/224096/why-iphones-are-more-secure-than-android-phones/

And here is Apple getting pummeled in enterprise security

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/31/1...te-iphone-security-sidestepper-attack-malware

Its not an INSECURE MESS.Its called choice.People who paid top dollar are getting their moneys worth.Would you want all the poor folk around the world to use an insecure phone or a flip phone?

If we are comparing REAL PHONES like the iPhone to a real Android phone IT PROVES that iOS and Android are equally secure on the latest version.Fragmentation on Android is here to stay.Its also resulted in innovation which far surpasses Apple on the Android market

Nice job on the 2014/15 article

 

[I7guy]

The malware was on an obscure app.Anyone who downloaded such an app was looking for trouble and those who look for trouble generally find it.If a person is knowledgable AND STUPID enough to download such apps the same user is more than capable of being a victim of ANY vulenrability



Did anyone tell you that 75-80% of the global Android market is full of substandard budget phones?You get what you pay for.The people who paid for these Chinese phones dont and shouldnt expect any update support.If we are doing an apples to apples FAIR COMPARISON,an iPhone running iOS 9 will be compared to a FLAGSHIP Android running Marshmallow.

The latest version of Android DOES NOT SUFFER FROM IT as Google patched it.If I were to take an iPhone running iOS 8 (which are around 20% of the iOS devices which is still millions of devices) and exploit the 1970 bug is it fair to say that the iOS can rigged to brick the phone?



And here is Apple getting pummeled in enterprise security

http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/31/1...te-iphone-security-sidestepper-attack-malware

Its not an INSECURE MESS.Its called choice.People who paid top dollar are getting their moneys worth.Would you want all the poor folk around the world to use an insecure phone or a flip phone?

If we are comparing REAL PHONES like the iPhone to a real Android phone IT PROVES that iOS and Android are equally secure on the latest version.Fragmentation on Android is here to stay.Its also resulted in innovation which far surpasses Apple on the Android market

Nice job on the 2014/15 article

Nice job on deflections and conflating off-topic information with information germane to the thread.

Btw, it's not my issue that 90% of android consists of older hardware where the software will never be patched. That's the android market. In contrast to the iOS market where devices through the 4s, which is 5 years old get current security patches.

Show me where iOS has any zero day vulnerabilities. I'm sure I can dig up some android zero day vulnerabilities.

 

[Radon87000]

Nice job on deflections and conflating off-topic information with information germane to the thread.

Btw, it's not my issue that 90% of android consists of older hardware where the software will never be patched. That's the android market. In contrast to the iOS market where devices through the 4s, which is 5 years old get current security patches.

All iPhones are flagships.All Androids are not flagships.iPhone 4s performs like a pile of garbage so I would rather have an unsecure phone then bang my head against a wall while the settings screen takes 4 seconds to load

Show me where iOS has any zero day vulnerabilities. I'm sure I can dig up some android zero day vulnerabilities.

Show me a zero day vulnerability in Android Marshmallow

 

[Zirel]

http://www.informationweek.com/mobi...eats-ios-android-gartner-finds/d/d-id/1325145

Samsung Knox Security Beats iOS, Android, Gartner Finds

That's BS, completely ridiculous!

Samsung must have paid poor Gartner to "find" that, after all, what does Gartner know about computer security?

Even script kiddies in XDA can bypass knox easily!
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Ah so do you want me to post from 2016?

http://m.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/16/acedeceiver_ios_malware/


It's on the Play Store.Google will remove it.p problem solved

Only those who install these apps are vulnerable.If you use common sense on both the Play Store and App Store you wouldn't suffer from these issues

AceDeceiver didn't install any malware, all it could do was installing cracked apps... what's the problem?

Apple fixed the problem completely for all models from the iPhone 4s.

On the PlayStore, there is always cases of malware being there, some are very common, look at a flashlight app's permissions, and tell me anything.

Also, there are a LOT of Apps that don't do what they say in the description, meaning that Google has no human revision whatsoever!
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Quite similar to how 300 infected apps were on the App store

As usual, you're making up stuff.

Where are the 300 infected apps?
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This is just fanboy defending, the report and the DBs are correct for "known" issues.
Who knows what will come out or happen in the future. Facts are facts.

I dont have an android device, i run iOS and OS X but that doesn't mean i have dismiss the reality of what is...

Fanboy attacking.

Even Google calls Android their black sheep, because that's what it is, security wise.

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What about this?

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/...n-encryption-support-is-a-human-rights-issue/

Why Google Trailing Apple on Encryption Support Is a Human Rights Issue

A leading privacy activist says Google’s lack of support for strong encryption makes second-class citizens out of people who can’t afford Apple devices.

 

[I7guy]

All iPhones are flagships.All Androids are not flagships.iPhone 4s performs like a pile of garbage so I would rather have an unsecure phone then bang my head against a wall while the settings screen takes 4 seconds to load




Show me a zero day vulnerability in Android Marshmallow

That's not what I said, I can show you a zero day vulnerability in android. Show me a zero day vulnerability in iOS 9.3.3 beta 3.

Your phone is broken, the settings screen loads instantly on my iPad 2.

 

[Zirel]

I don't plan on buying either a Galaxy or an iPhone so I'm kind of indifferent.

Security always comes down to the computer/phone driver

No, it's not. You can have an Android, and more than 50% of people are vulnerable to Stagefright, simply receiving an MMS is enough to have the device compromised.

You aren't getting away by being a "good driver".

 

[Radon87000]

That's not what I said, I can show you a zero day vulnerability in android. Show me a zero day vulnerability in iOS 9.3.3 beta 3.

Your phone is broken, the settings screen loads instantly on my iPad 2.

https://wiihot.com/2016/06/16/hacke...ay-exploit-for-ios-9-3-3b-and-lower-versions/

And to make it comparable I need a zero day explot on the latest version of Android coz I showed you one on the latest version of iOS

No its like that on both iPad Mini and iPhone 4s.Just check out all the lag videos over YouTube

 

[Zirel]

Show me a zero day vulnerability in Android Marshmallow

http://www.cvedetails.com/cve/CVE-2016-4477/

The vast majority of people don't get monthly security updates, and despite having 6.0.1, don't have fixes for well known security problems.
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No its like that on both iPad Mini and iPhone 4s.Just check out all the lag videos over YouTube

Ridiculous.

Coming from who this comes, I'm not surprised.

SLOW IS NOT LAG. ANY DEVICE THAT OLD IS SLOW.

 

[I7guy]

https://wiihot.com/2016/06/16/hacke...ay-exploit-for-ios-9-3-3b-and-lower-versions/

And to make it comparable I need a zero day explot on the latest version of Android coz I showed you one on the latest version of iOS

No its like that on both iPad Mini and iPhone 4s.Just check out all the lag videos over YouTube

That is not a zero day exploit as much as a jailbreak requiring itunes.

 

[AFEPPL]

Fanboy attacking.

Even Google calls Android their black sheep, because that's what it is, security wise.

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What about this?

https://www.technologyreview.com/s/...n-encryption-support-is-a-human-rights-issue/

Dude, you're truly scrambling.... just accept the facts are the facts and move on.
Which is OS X has MORE vulnerabilities which was the topic, if you want to talk about encryption - start a thread.

This is what gives people fanboy titles and groups bad names.
Something are better, some things are worse on EVERY platform, but... out and out denial of what is a clear situation is pointless. The data is all there and its all independent.

 

[Zirel]

Dude, you're truly scrambling.... just accept the facts are the facts and move on.
Which is OS X has MORE vulnerabilities which was the topic, if you want to talk about encryption - start a thread.

Nope, as I proved why before.

But you stick your head in the sand...

This is what gives people fanboy titles and groups bad names.
Something are better, some things are worse on EVERY platform, but... out and out denial of what is a clear situation is pointless. The data is all there and its all independent.

Exactly.

 

[mildocjr]

Or if i install flash on OSX with adobe and office

Why on Earth would you want to go do something like that? Flash is terrible and should have died years ago, Adobe Acrobat...yeah sure, Reader? Why? Preview does well enough for me with PDFs. Office...I'm just fine with iWork and I switched over when I typed up my resume in Word for Mac and it looked like hell in Word for Windows. (Tables, custom tabs, bullets, etc..). Microsoft should stick with Microsoft, Apple should stick with Apple, and Adobe just needs to make non-Internet facing, non-subscription based software, that's what they are good at anyways.

 

[AFEPPL]

I have no comment as to adobe, it is what it is like with most software.
As for who does OS X and office? Well Apple run it themselves pretty much as above. All my Macs also run office too even though pages and numbers are free. I have no issue with personal choice, be it for style, colour or even brand, those are all subjective and down to your own way of working.

Nope, as I proved why before.

But you stick your head in the sand...



Exactly.

You've proved nothing but your complete lack of understanding and ignorance.
The worlds experts say one thing, you disagree. the "number of vulnerabilities" is FULLY declared, anyone with a 4th grade reading level can see that.

Well in the real world... infact you know what, this is less than pointless the links have been provided, I'm going to go outside and have a beer i just don't need to waste my time on someone who would swear the world is still flat.

Pointless fanboy internet forum crap.

 

[Zirel]

You've proved nothing but your complete lack of understanding and ignorance.

YOU lack the understanding, and are worse than ignorant. You're just a plain Apple hater like many others and don't want to see the reality.

2015
iPhone/iPad = iOS = 385

2015
Android phones/tablets = Android (155) + Linux (77) + Chrome (187) = 419

419 > 385.

And that is without counting OEM and Carrier bloatware, that comes with the phone, and makes the complete package.

 

[AFEPPL]

Nice deflection back to iOS only,
iOS 385 + safari 135 = 520, opps! even you can't attempt to spin or deny 520 is less than 419, 24% more.

And thats without counting the other bloat.