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mdimovv

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Jul 25, 2012
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Hey,

MacBook 13 inch mid-2012 here.
When i was on Lion 10.7.4 all animations were great snappy and awesome.
When i updated to 10.8 Mission control, app folder open, calendars app are 10 fps down - still usable but choppier. Although switching between spaces, scrolling in Safari and many other are great like 60+ fps.

Anyone experiencing something like this? Suggestions?
Probably going to be fixed in future updates...
 
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Skoopman

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Sep 24, 2011
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I had choppy animations while switching through desktops. Doing a clean install now.
 

MasterHowl

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Oct 3, 2010
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I've got a mid-2009 MBP and the only thing that's choppy on mine is flipping pages in Calendar... must be a software issue, because my machine's ancient now...
 

fb0r

macrumors newbie
Jul 26, 2012
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Sweden
I suspect it's graphics driver issues.

I've got three Macs and the one that is particularly struggling with UI animations (especially swiping between desktop spaces) is my old 2010 MacBook Air 13" (w/4GB RAM and the 2.13GHz CPU). I traced some of the desktop sluggishness back to the dock which, when visible, makes switching between desktop spaces (I usually use two or three) noticeably choppy when compared to how they were on Lion and Snow Leopard. If I hide the dock then switching between my desktops is smooth as silk. My guess is that it has to do with the drivers for the 2010 Air's nVidia graphics as most other animations in the UI are perfectly smooth.

To add to that I've seen Mountain Lion on another 2010 MacBook Air 13 (baseline) and it has the exact same issue when swiping between desktop spaces while the dock is shown.

In comparison my 2011 Sandy Bridge Air has no problems at all with any UI animations which is remarkable since the Intel HD3000 graphics are just about as powerful as the previous MacBook Air generation's nVidia graphics...

The calendar app is entirely another matter. All my Macs struggle with the page flipping animation etc so obviously something's up with that app.

Cheers, fb0r
 

Hephaestus

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Apr 4, 2010
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I've got a mid-2009 MBP and the only thing that's choppy on mine is flipping pages in Calendar... must be a software issue, because my machine's ancient now...

Same for me, everything is buttery smooth except for flipping pages in calendar. I'm running a 2009 MBP 15" 2.66GHz and 8GB RAM.
 

netnothing

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Mar 13, 2007
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Anyone else seeing the flickering when using the screenshot tool?

I posted this in the other thread I started....when I use:

CMD + Control + Shift + 4

The crosshairs that popup with the coordinates are stutterey as I move the mouse.

-Kevin
 

dixido

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Aug 29, 2010
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Anyone else seeing the flickering when using the screenshot tool?

I posted this in the other thread I started....when I use:

CMD + Control + Shift + 4

The crosshairs that popup with the coordinates are stutterey as I move the mouse.

-Kevin

I also see the same flickering on my 2010 15" MBP.

Although it's not the end of the world for me I hope they will fix it rather soon.
 

netnothing

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Mar 13, 2007
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I also see the same flickering on my 2010 15" MBP.

Although it's not the end of the world for me I hope they will fix it rather soon.

Thanks for letting me know. Overall I'm thinking Apple screwed a lot up with the graphics drivers in ML. Hopefully 10.8.1 comes in a few weeks and fixes some things.

-Kevin
 

motorazr

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+1 guessing a graphics driver thing.

My 2011 MBA (11", i7) has very rarely had trouble with smooth graphics between exposé, mission control, spaces, etc. . . but mission control and a few other things randomly are choppy.

Also, the iMac had a rough transition in safari into the tab view... haven't done too much on the iMac yet tho. Overall happy with the system :)
 

mdimovv

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Original poster
Jul 25, 2012
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Guys something strange happened here.
Was opened Safari, Xcode, Preview, Activity Monitor, App Store and playing with the dock. And then tried App Grid animation and buttery smoothness like on Lion - even better. Tried Launchpad, Mission Control - the same. That was on 15:45PM, till now.
Changed wallpaper, played a bit and... now it is not smooth again at some animations.
MacBook Air 13" 2012 here.
Trying to reboot now and see what happens.
 

Michaelgtrusa

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Roofy.

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Anyone else seeing the flickering when using the screenshot tool?

I posted this in the other thread I started....when I use:

CMD + Control + Shift + 4

The crosshairs that popup with the coordinates are stutterey as I move the mouse.

-Kevin

you only need cmnd shift and 4.
 

iGuybrush

macrumors newbie
Jun 12, 2011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kbmb
Anyone else seeing the flickering when using the screenshot tool?

I posted this in the other thread I started....when I use:

CMD + Control + Shift + 4

The crosshairs that popup with the coordinates are stutterey as I move the mouse.

-Kevin
I also see the same flickering on my 2010 15" MBP.

Although it's not the end of the world for me I hope they will fix it rather soon.

Same here, also on a MBP 15" 2010. Cursor flickers when trying to get a screenshot, but also do it randomly when hovering the mouse over some elements (Mail text editor, web pages elements...).
I think this only happens with the intel card.
 

netnothing

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Mar 13, 2007
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you only need cmnd shift and 4.

Cmd + Shift + 4 = saves to a file
Cmd + Control + Shift + 4 = saves to clipboard to paste in other apps

Same with the 3 option.

-Kevin

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Same here, also on a MBP 15" 2010. Cursor flickers when trying to get a screenshot, but also do it randomly when hovering the mouse over some elements (Mail text editor, web pages elements...).
I think this only happens with the intel card.

Well I have a Mac Pro 2010 with the ATI 5870.....that's a 1GB RAM card.....I'd expect ML to be buttery smooth....but it seems Apple couldn't give a crap to program for cards like that.

-Kevin
 

mdimovv

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jul 25, 2012
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Cmd + Shift + 4 = saves to a file
Cmd + Control + Shift + 4 = saves to clipboard to paste in other apps

Same with the 3 option.

-Kevin

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Well I have a Mac Pro 2010 with the ATI 5870.....that's a 1GB RAM card.....I'd expect ML to be buttery smooth....but it seems Apple couldn't give a crap to program for cards like that.

-Kevin
No problems with Screenshot tool here.
 

mdimovv

macrumors newbie
Original poster
Jul 25, 2012
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I'd hope you wouldn't have the flickering on a mid 2012 :p

-Kevin

Try this - immediately after waking up from sleep, try some animations - with my Air now after wake-up it is again buttery smooth, and after 5 secs it isn't.
 

Set845

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Jun 29, 2010
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I clean installed the GM release on a 60GB partition on my mid 2011 i7 16 GB RAM with 1 GB AMD. I found animations were smoother than Lion everywhere. Yesterday I updated to Mountain Lion on my main partition and deleted the GM partition. I noticed choppy animations as you describe so I repaired permissions. I noticed a bunch of core animation files needed repairing. After a reboot all animations everywhere were smooth again. I hope this helps.
 

netnothing

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Mar 13, 2007
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Try this - immediately after waking up from sleep, try some animations - with my Air now after wake-up it is again buttery smooth, and after 5 secs it isn't.

I'll have to try this later.

I clean installed the GM release on a 60GB partition on my mid 2011 i7 16 GB RAM with 1 GB AMD. I found animations were smoother than Lion everywhere. Yesterday I updated to Mountain Lion on my main partition and deleted the GM partition. I noticed choppy animations as you describe so I repaired permissions. I noticed a bunch of core animation files needed repairing. After a reboot all animations everywhere were smooth again. I hope this helps.

Permissions repair is clean now. Was done right after install and I've rebooted multiple times as well as a Safe boot.

-Kevin
 

digitalgopher

macrumors newbie
Mar 15, 2011
11
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Not choppy but slow

Anyone notice this -> it's not necessarily a choppy animation as per the OP but a different, slower animation than in Lion:

when swiping across desktops (both left and right), I get super smooth sliding action until almost the very end when the desktop slide is almost settled. it's not a stutter, but a general slowdown in the pace of how quickly the 'slide' settles to rest as compared to how it used to be in Lion. This is on a MacBook Air (Late 2010) and iMac (late 2009).

it's almost a second or so longer, but quite noticeable... and a tad bit annoying. I liked the slide better in Lion.

anyone else experience this?
 

netnothing

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Mar 13, 2007
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Anyone notice this -> it's not necessarily a choppy animation as per the OP but a different, slower animation than in Lion:

when swiping across desktops (both left and right), I get super smooth sliding action until almost the very end when the desktop slide is almost settled. it's not a stutter, but a general slowdown in the pace of how quickly the 'slide' settles to rest as compared to how it used to be in Lion. This is on a MacBook Air (Late 2010) and iMac (late 2009).

it's almost a second or so longer, but quite noticeable... and a tad bit annoying. I liked the slide better in Lion.

anyone else experience this?

Between my Mac Pro with ML and my old White Macbook with Lion....I do notice this very subtle difference when switching desktops by swiping (or in my case Control Arrow).

It's almost as if in ML, they are slowing it down right before it finishes.

-Kevin
 
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