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netnothing

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Created a new user and tested the Screenshot flickering....same thing.

Same choppiness on switching Desktops as well.

-Kevin
 

mdimovv

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Jul 25, 2012
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Not an option in settings. I just checked Hyperdock and TinkerTool and cant find any options for that in those apps either.


Just do the swipe with fast speed.

EDIT - here is how I fixed it.
I made a new user account and everything is smooth as butter. Try making this.
 
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iGuybrush

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Jun 12, 2011
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I also see the same flickering on my 2010 15" MBP.

Although it's not the end of the world for me I hope they will fix it rather soon.

I found a workaround which solved the flickering problem for me.

It's simple: go to accessibility preferences ->screen, and slightly increase the mouse pointer. You just need to set it a bit beyond normal size, so in practice this setting is not noticeable.
 

netnothing

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I found a workaround which solved the flickering problem for me.

It's simple: go to accessibility preferences ->screen, and slightly increase the mouse pointer. You just need to set it a bit beyond normal size, so in practice this setting is not noticeable.

Wow, interesting.....this works by moving it just a hair in the prefs (the cursor doesn't actually change in size). The stuttering in the screenshot crosshairs goes away. Nice find.

Of course this doesn't help the choppy switching desktops :mad:

-Kevin
 

Baggy Spandex

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In Mail.app, when you're viewing a message, if you pull up or down at the very top or bottom there's a linen background. Is anyone noticing some choppiness when the linen reveals?
 

aboutjax1990

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Jul 22, 2011
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XBench worked for me

I'm using 15' late 2011 macbook pro, been using ML for the past week and everything was smooth until today. Mission control suddenly became super choppy! but came across threads that suggested using xBench and it worked for me after a test!
 

netnothing

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I'm using 15' late 2011 macbook pro, been using ML for the past week and everything was smooth until today. Mission control suddenly became super choppy! but came across threads that suggested using xBench and it worked for me after a test!

Can you describe exactly what actions were laggy....and how they were fixed?

My choppy switching desktops in ML was NOT solved by running an XBench test. I did read a bunch of people going back to Lion that say just running an XBench test solved their issues, but no one is able to explain why a simple testing program would help.

-Kevin
 

nebrot

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Oct 25, 2011
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Choppy both in 10.7. and 10.8.

+1 guessing a graphics driver thing.

My 2011 MBA (11", i7) has very rarely had trouble with smooth graphics between exposé, mission control, spaces, etc. . . but mission control and a few other things randomly are choppy.

Also, the iMac had a rough transition in safari into the tab view... haven't done too much on the iMac yet tho. Overall happy with the system :)

I can not confirm it, I have the 2011 i7 Air and still running Lion 10.7.4. I suffer from horrible choppy annimations since 10.7.4, but I cant recall if it started after the Thunderbolt update or the last EFI, however, I am 100% sure it wasn´t choppy during 10.7.3 or earlier.
It is lagging all over:
1. Mission Control
2. Launchpad
3. Swiping desktops
4. When the dock appears
5. Quicktime, when transitioning to Fullscreen
6. And the WORST, iPhoto when I start a slideshow
There are several threads here, naming this problem for Lion and also ML. No idea yet what is going on. While some dosn´t seem to have this problem I am asking myself whether they simply dont notice it?
Or it is indeed just on some machines, by now I found it strange and there don´t seem to be an answer. I already downloaded ML just for the fact to get it running smooth again, but I am yet waiting.
However, all this said, the problems I encounter (on 10.7.4) are laggy just in the first second.
For example the first time I let the dock appear it comes choppy, the second time it comes smooth, same for Mission Control and Launchpad - then they stay smooth until I put the Air to sleep or shut it down.
Quicktime & iPhoto Slideshows however always start choppy, then after a second they run smooth, until I restart. Graphics problem seems possible, but it could easily be fixed, right?
Very strange.........
 
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Woodcrest64

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I'm sorry to hear about your system lagging. I'm not sure if doing a clean install is feasible for you or not but if it is its worth a shot.

The other option is do use an app called Lion Tweaks where you can disable and enable animations and other things with in Lion. I use it on my Macbook to disable iCal's page flipping animation. I also used it to disable animations for mission control and window animations.

I don't see the need for them and everything feels a lot snappier.

Cheers, James




I can not confirm it, I have the 2011 i7 Air and still running Lion 10.7.4. I suffer from horrible choppy annimations since 10.7.4, but I cant recall if it started after the Thunderbolt update or the last EFI, however, I am 100% sure it wasn´t choppy during 10.7.3 or earlier.
It is lagging all over:
1. Mission Control
2. Launchpad
3. Swiping desktops
4. When the dock appears
5. Quicktime, when transitioning to Fullscreen
6. And the WORST, iPhoto when I start a slideshow
There are several threads here, naming this problem for Lion and also ML. No idea yet what is going on. While some dosn´t seem to have this problem I am asking myself whether they simply dont notice it?
Or it is indeed just on some machines, by now I found it strange and there don´t seem to be an answer. I already downloaded ML just for the fact to get it running smooth again, but I am yet waiting.
However, all this said, the problems I encounter (on 10.7.4) are laggy just in the first second.
For example the first time I let the dock appear it comes choppy, the second time it comes smooth, same for Mission Control and Launchpad - then they stay smooth until I put the Air to sleep or shut it down.
Quicktime & iPhoto Slideshows however always start choppy, then after a second they run smooth, until I restart. Graphics problem seems possible, but it could easily be fixed, right?
Very strange.........
 

pepede

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Mar 6, 2012
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Choppy animations on macbook pro 2011 13 inch are real problem.
I have done some performance tests with Novabench under Lion and Mountain Lion. Result? Mountain Lion got 30 fps in graphics test, Lion 50 fps!!! 30 fps isnt enough for animations to look smooth.
Clean install didnt help.
Please do Novabench test and check graphic score.
 

netnothing

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Mar 13, 2007
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Choppy animations on macbook pro 2011 13 inch are real problem.
I have done some performance tests with Novabench under Lion and Mountain Lion. Result? Mountain Lion got 30 fps in graphics test, Lion 50 fps!!! 30 fps isnt enough for animations to look smooth.
Clean install didnt help.
Please do Novabench test and check graphic score.

Where are you seeing the FPS result in Novabench?

My results are:

2012-08-02 15:28:57 +0000
Mac OS X 10.8.0
Quad-Core Intel Xeon @ 2800 MHz
Graphics Card: ATI Radeon HD 5870

16384 MB System RAM (Score: 202)
- RAM Speed: 4944 MB/s

CPU Tests (Score: 638)
- Floating Point Operations/Second: 273265024
- Integer Operations/Second: 486882912
- MD5 Hashes Calculated/Second: 939780

Graphics Tests (Score: 349)
- 3D Frames Per Second: 1435

Hardware Tests (Score: 47)
- Primary Partition Capacity: 110 GB
- Drive Write Speed: 210 MB/s

-Kevin
 

pepede

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Mar 6, 2012
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kbmb FPS = frames per second
your result= 3D Frames Per Second: 1435


mine result =

 

netnothing

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kbmb FPS = frames per second
your result= 3D Frames Per Second: 1435

Ok thanks.....didn't know if that number meant something else since it's so much higher than 30 or 50 FPS.

So with my 1435 FPS...I still get choppy animation when switching desktops?!? C'mon Apple.

-Kevin
 

pepede

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Mar 6, 2012
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mine result under Mountain Lion




kbmb your result is so high and you have choppy animations its strange. I have only intel hd 3000 :/
 

Ice-Cube

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Jul 27, 2006
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Somewhere over the rainbow
This is mine. Animations are very choppy on mission control. Clean install didn't help at all.


Screen_Shot_2012_08_03_at_12_14_19_AM.png
 

motorazr

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I will note, however, that it isn't consistently choppy on my Air.... and I'm not exactly sure what the pattern is.

I'd think that under load it would have the most trouble, but it seems like it's after a fresh restart that I've got the most choppy animations (?!).

Finally, in reference to a poster a little ways above-- It could have started after the thunderbolt EFI update . . . but I didn't see it until 10.8 (and I think I put off doing the EFI update until right before ML anyway..).


10.8.1 should be working its way down the pipeline soon, anyway :)
 

kemo

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Oct 29, 2008
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I had choppy animations while switching through desktops. Doing a clean install now.

did it resolve your issues? I'm just curious, since Im having zero issues with ML ..I was upgrading from SL.
 

Skoopman

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Sep 24, 2011
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did it resolve your issues? I'm just curious, since Im having zero issues with ML ..I was upgrading from SL.

Nope, still have to hide the dock. It's not horribly slow or anything, but you can see a little bit of lag, which wasn't there on Lion. Waiting for a fix..
 
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