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Shuri

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I would probably still get an LG G3 or whatever smartphone with a 2k display but not because the res is at 1440p. But because they are very good devices that happen to have a 2k display that I generally don't look for.

That's why they did it: Plain marketing, some people believe its better and the others don't care, because it's a very interesting and good phone.

The truth is: The LG G3 would be a even better phone with a HD Display. (Battery life , Frames Per Seconds esp. in games, Display brightness, "colder" phone) I don't say the G3 is bad at those things, but that it could be better.

Why would someone want to trade those things for a barely better screen in terms of sharpness?
 

severage

macrumors regular
Oct 13, 2013
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LG needed something to stand out from the crowd. HTC has that metal body and excellent speakers, Samsung has an AMOLED display, water resistance, and brand recognizability.

That being said, while the G3s screen isn't very discernible from 1080p, it is a bit more "future proof" than current flagships. And it's about guaranteed that QHD phones will become flagship norms.

And as The Verge said, the G3s greatest strength is its lack of weaknesses. It's just an amazing device that satisfies everything I needed or wanted in a phone.
 

AppleRobert

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Nov 12, 2012
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LG needed something to stand out from the crowd. HTC has that metal body and excellent speakers, Samsung has an AMOLED display, water resistance, and brand recognizability.

That being said, while the G3s screen isn't very discernible from 1080p, it is a bit more "future proof" than current flagships. And it's about guaranteed that QHD phones will become flagship norms.

And as The Verge said, the G3s greatest strength is its lack of weaknesses. It's just an amazing device that satisfies everything I needed or wanted in a phone.

Exactly, more future proof and progress. Why bother then going any further than 720p on a screen the size of the Moto X when 1080p would be discernible.
 

Sensamic

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Mar 26, 2010
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Benefits none... Disadvantages a few (less battery, less performance, overheating, etc).
 

nfl46

macrumors G3
Oct 5, 2008
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I was wondering the same thing. I mean, the display can't be THAT much better than 1080p screen. I'll be surprised if you can even tell a difference on a 5" screen.
 

aneftp

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Jul 28, 2007
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One big downside of being on the bleeding edge of new tech (quad hd) is there are a lot of incompatible apps with this screen resolution.

Just google which apps are not compatible. Kinda of annoying.

Fortunately for me I always carry an iPhone along with android. But still annoying to have apps (like watch Disney .,,,we have 2 and 4 year olds) not compatible with lg g3.
 

Fernandez21

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Jun 16, 2010
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LG needed something to stand out from the crowd. HTC has that metal body and excellent speakers, Samsung has an AMOLED display, water resistance, and brand recognizability.

That being said, while the G3s screen isn't very discernible from 1080p, it is a bit more "future proof" than current flagships. And it's about guaranteed that QHD phones will become flagship norms.

And as The Verge said, the G3s greatest strength is its lack of weaknesses. It's just an amazing device that satisfies everything I needed or wanted in a phone.

Actually, I would probably say it's less future proof because of the higher resolution. As future apps and versions of android become more demanding, that higher resolution will cause the ui to slow down more than lower resolution phones, while the higher resolution ones will have even high higher specs more capable of pushing those higher pixels.

Kinda like the iPad 3, iOS 7 ran much better on the lower resolution iPad 2 and iPad mini than on the retina iPad 3, same with games and apps.
 

PFKMan23

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Jan 12, 2012
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Actually, I would probably say it's less future proof because of the higher resolution. As future apps and versions of android become more demanding, that higher resolution will cause the ui to slow down more than lower resolution phones, while the higher resolution ones will have even high higher specs more capable of pushing those higher pixels.

Kinda like the iPad 3, iOS 7 ran much better on the lower resolution iPad 2 and iPad mini than on the retina iPad 3, same with games and apps.

Just looking for clarification, so you're saying the hardware hasn't caught up with the resolution?
 

Fernandez21

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Jun 16, 2010
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Just looking for clarification, so you're saying the hardware hasn't caught up with the resolution?

Correct. Now don't get me wrong, the G3 is a beast of a phone and is very well designed, but you can tell the extra resolution is taxing the ui, it doesn't run as smooth as say the HTC One. Or at least that has been my impression from the videos I've seen and my time spent with it at the store.

The same thing happened with 1080p, the s600 phones like the HTC One M7 ran much choppier than other S600 phones with a lower resolution, like the Moto X, because of that higher resolution. It wasn't until the S800 that performance caught back up, and it'll probably be the same with 2k.

We're also at a point where screen resolution is high enough that I would prefer the higher performance. While I do believe they should keep pushing forward, I would love for pixel density to get to the same quality as print (600ppi), for now give me maximum battery and performance.
 

JaySoul

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Jan 30, 2008
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One thing that the G3 screen is beautiful for - reading books.

Reading on the Kindle app is delightful, the first time I've enjoyed reading on a phone.
 

Shuri

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Nov 23, 2011
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One thing that the G3 screen is beautiful for - reading books.

Reading on the Kindle app is delightful, the first time I've enjoyed reading on a phone.

Due to the high resolution or isn't it rather due to the big screen? ;)

I like reading on my iPhone in terms of resolution, but the smaller screen is the reason I use an iPad for this.
 

JaySoul

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Jan 30, 2008
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Due to the high resolution or isn't it rather due to the big screen? ;)

I like reading on my iPhone in terms of resolution, but the smaller screen is the reason I use an iPad for this.

Both! :D
 

severage

macrumors regular
Oct 13, 2013
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Correct. Now don't get me wrong, the G3 is a beast of a phone and is very well designed, but you can tell the extra resolution is taxing the ui, it doesn't run as smooth as say the HTC One. Or at least that has been my impression from the videos I've seen and my time spent with it at the store.

The same thing happened with 1080p, the s600 phones like the HTC One M7 ran much choppier than other S600 phones with a lower resolution, like the Moto X, because of that higher resolution. It wasn't until the S800 that performance caught back up, and it'll probably be the same with 2k.

We're also at a point where screen resolution is high enough that I would prefer the higher performance. While I do believe they should keep pushing forward, I would love for pixel density to get to the same quality as print (600ppi), for now give me maximum battery and performance.

I would attest that to LGs android skin more than anything. The LG launcher does have considerable lag and stutter while just swiping through the screens. Definitely in need of optimization. Nova launcher on the G3 is very smooth, however.

But I do think you are right, higher resolution needs more power to run smoothly. So far, the G3 keeps up with the M8 and S5 just fine in my experience, in gaming and browsing especially, but that's not to say phones like the note 4 won't have noticeably better performance.
 

Shuri

macrumors 6502
Nov 23, 2011
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I would attest that to LGs android skin more than anything. The LG launcher does have considerable lag and stutter while just swiping through the screens. Definitely in need of optimization. Nova launcher on the G3 is very smooth, however.

I heard the lag occurs mainly on the lower storage G3, which also has less RAM. Correct if I'm wrong.
 

RMXO

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Sep 1, 2009
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Higher resolution means you can watch your favorite porn star better! Win win I say.
 

Twixt

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May 30, 2012
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Neither can I. I never did understand why people have this twisted mentality that once a technology reaches a certain point it should stop there. A 4K screen would be amazing on a phone, let's be real here. And just imagine 8K following that, my goodness we are not worthy.

Would you guys still be happy with a 480x320 phone here in 2014? I know I wouldn't after using my S5. I gotta give props to LG on taking the next step forward, Samsung and HTC will soon follow and before long we WILL have our 4K phones. Good times are ahead.

I suppose problem is not about spec bumps, moe than such a pixel density is useless whereas many other aspects of today's phones need serious upgrades (battery, storage, quality on the long run etc)
 

severage

macrumors regular
Oct 13, 2013
106
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I heard the lag occurs mainly on the lower storage G3, which also has less RAM. Correct if I'm wrong.

I have considerable home screen lag on the 32gb storage/3gb ram model, when using LGs home launcher, but the lag goes away when using Nova launcher.

But I would think you're right, my G3 is almost always using between 1.8-2.1gb of RAM, which would make me very hesitant to buy the 2gb model. Not sure why LG even included it.
 

Savor

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Jun 18, 2010
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Until 128GB micro-sd is avail and cheap (64GB is still the highest I've seen in retail stores), 2k screen is only useful for streaming 1440p videos which YouTube just only recently added. Expect an average of 4GB for movies or plenty of upscaling. Yet, not everyone has fully embraced Blu-ray yet or 4k TV's or whatever. People are still content on DVD resolution, HD cable channels, or FHD TV's. And watching upscaled HD videos from pre-2000's still doesn't look great. Grainy. Wasn't filmed in that higher resolution. Like digital zooming. Try comparing an early-1990's movie vs early-2000's movie both at 720p to know what I mean.

At this point it is like the Engadget review said owning a 2k screen smartphone. Owning one now is like owning an HDTV back in 2004.The content is just not here yet. Michael Fisher of PocketNow is correct. Spec stunt as of right now. It is no different than what Apple tried marketing 64-bit processor for the iPhone 5s without any real benefits from it today.

I would like all electronic manufacturers to focus more on battery life, powerful but way more efficient SoC chips, wireless charging, wireless headphones, lesser bezels, new form factors like foldable displays, louder speakers, more element resistance but with lesser flaps, better custom software, higher capacity memory cards, etc. Other dominoes need to fall first before we start seeing any actual benefits of 1440p or higher displays on 5-6 inch screens. Right now, 2k screen resolution should serve better with tablets at 7-inches or higher.
 

Dr McKay

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Aug 11, 2010
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Does the screen have viewing angles like the 2013 nexus 7 which are excellent or is it like the nexus 5 which are just average. I would rather they use a 1080p panel with the better view angles and contrast than adding pointless extra pixels. I have a feeling its like the nexus 5. Lg doesn't seem to put a-tw polarizers in their ips displays. Japan display generally does which is what the nexus 7 uses. I hope the nexus 6 goes back to amoled or it uses a Japan display LCD. Whatever they use in the HTC one would be good as well.

I own one and the viewing angles are as bad as the Xperia Z1.
 

blackhand1001

macrumors 68030
Jan 6, 2009
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The only phones I am excited for are the moto x+1 and the nexus 6. I am on Verizon though so the x+1 is probably the only one I will be able to get.
 

severage

macrumors regular
Oct 13, 2013
106
1
I own one and the viewing angles are as bad as the Xperia Z1.

You think so? I have one as well, while they aren't as stellar as, say, my iPad's, I would say they're far better than the z1's, which seems to wash out when the screen is turned 15 degrees. Good, but not great.

Nice avatar and sig btw. Solaire ftw
 

Dr McKay

macrumors 68040
Aug 11, 2010
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Kirkland
I haven't experienced it on my G3 but then I don't watch movies or surf the web with my peripheral vision. :p

I notice it when I have my phone on my desk, when it lights up due to a text I see me lock screen colours are all washed out and grey.
 

gotluck

macrumors 603
Dec 8, 2011
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At this point it is like the Engadget review said owning a 2k screen smartphone. Owning one now is like owning an HDTV back in 2004.The content is just not here yet. Michael Fisher of PocketNow is correct. Spec stunt as of right now. It is no different than what Apple tried marketing 64-bit processor for the iPhone 5s without any real benefits from it today.

I like those analogies, cheers.
 
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