Sooooo iOS 8 anyone?

[Vegastouch]

Really? How so? My gallery app didn't gain new options when I installed a photo app.

It isnt new, its been there. Go to your stock gallery and click on a picture. On the bottom left there is a edit button(with a pencil icon n it).

It will bring up this, minus the upload notice,lol.

 

[TechGod]

It isnt new, its been there. Go to your stock gallery and click on a picture. On the bottom left there is a edit button(with a pencil icon n it).

It will bring up this, minus the upload notice,lol.

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I know that...

But other apps can plug into the photos not so with Android.

 

[gotluck]

I would think xposed could do that, though you may have to write it yourself. I don't edit my photos and I wouldn't know

Very rarely is something impossible on android, it's just a matter of figuring out a way to do it. Pretty much has to be something proprietary and guarded for it to be impossible.

 

[mib1800]

But Apple's implementation is better and more open in a sense.


Can we all admit that at least? Please?

I have not seen what can be done with extension. Does it just mean one app can call another app functions like a DLL?
Or does it extend to embedding one app inside another like a word doc with Excel inside. I doubt it is the latter.

If it is the former then android already supports this. But the problem with this is apps involved must make known its api interfaces. This means these apps are hard linked together. If you want to see how this work on Android just take a look at Tasker integration with 3rd party apps like Juice Defender etc. Or when you need to select a file/image you can pick from multitude of file selection options.

Complicated lockscreen? Really? I thought iOS was too simple and boring?

Do you constantly have strangers looking over your shoulder anytime you view your lockscreen? Do you pass your phone around so people have an opportunity to view your lockscreen?

What was your point in telling Apple and 3rd party apps collect info? I never said I was paranoid about my privacy. You did. Which is why I mentioned you using Google that collects everything about you.

I never pay attention to the icons on the status bar when using my Android devices. It just starts getting cluttered and becomes useless. I prefer the banners which let me immediately know if I need to view and respond.

I also like to get alerts such as bad weather conditions, sports scores, etc. on my lockscreen. Are those types or alerts TMI for the lockscreen?

What's so difficult to understand that while my phone is on my work table top (which is a lot of the time) I just don't want my colleague sitting next to me to see what comes in. This is a real world problem which I think you are too absorbed in iOS to see or to ignore.

 

[tbayrgs]

That's the beauty of Android isn't it. The lockscreen is replaceable unlike ios. There are plenty of lockscreen replacements in Playstore to satisfy every fancy.

For me I just want a basic lockscreen. Like I say the icons on the notification bar is enough to tell me what kind of notifications are pending. If I want details just pull down the notification.

Maybe ios if ios shows icons like android there's no need for complicated lockscreen which essentially just duplicate the info inside the notification.

btw: if you turn off sms not to show on ios lockscreen then you lose all notification for this since there is no way you will know you have sms notification without pulling down the shade. Android notification icons on top bar is still more functional imo.

Hey, too each their own. You have preferences that Android fulfills in better fashion where for me, while there are parts of Android's notification system that I like and wish were part of iOS (i.e. clear all), I find I generally prefer iOS's implementation, especially now with the changes introduced in iOS 8. I want lockscreen notifications and have found iOS's implementation better than anything I've seen or tried on Android. Having all notification settings in one centralized location is far more convenient and user friendly vs. having to enter each individual app as is required in Android. I also like being able to pull down the notification panel from the lockscreen while still having lockscreen security. And while top bar icons certainly are great to see if you have a notification, iOS provides me greater detail without even unlocking the device.

Again, I see merits to both systems, just find iOS better for my personal needs, that's all.

 

[sumsingwong]

Sooooo iOS 8 anyone?

I have not seen what can be done with extension. Does it just mean one app can call another app functions like a DLL?
Or does it extend to embedding one app inside another like a word doc with Excel inside. I doubt it is the latter.

If it is the former then android already supports this. But the problem with this is apps involved must make known its api interfaces. This means these apps are hard linked together. If you want to see how this work on Android just take a look at Tasker integration with 3rd party apps like Juice Defender etc. Or when you need to select a file/image you can pick from multitude of file selection options.








What's so difficult to understand that while my phone is on my work table top (which is a lot of the time) I just don't want my colleague sitting next to me to see what comes in. This is a real world problem which I think you are too absolved in iOS to see or to ignore.

Why are you even doubting what can be done with the new extensions if you haven't seen it?

Here's the demo.

http://youtu.be/15UB69VAdF8


My phone is always on my person when I'm not at home. If I'm at work, the phone will vibrate and I take it out of my pocket to see what the notification is. If it's not important, it goes back in my pocket. If it's important, I take care of it. If you are getting multiple SMS from different recipients, how will you know which one is very important and needs immediate action? Icons in the status bar will not differentiate priority level with SMS or email.

 

[mib1800]

Hey, too each their own. You have preferences that Android fulfills in better fashion where for me, while there are parts of Android's notification system that I like and wish were part of iOS (i.e. clear all), I find I generally prefer iOS's implementation, especially now with the changes introduced in iOS 8. I want lockscreen notifications and have found iOS's implementation better than anything I've seen or tried on Android. Having all notification settings in one centralized locations is far more convenient and user friendly vs. having to enter each individual app as is required in Android. I also like being able to pull down the notification panel from the lockscreen while still having lockscreen security. And while top bar icons certainly are great to see if you have a notification, iOS provides me greater detail without even unlocking the device.

Again, I see merits to both systems, just find iOS better for my personal needs, that's all

Why is it so difficult? It is not one or the other. With Android you can do exactly like the way you preferred on ios or any other way you like. But it is not the case with ios. What is there to debate? Android just gives you more choices than ios.

 

[sentinelsx]

There is a lockscreen app on Android called SlideLock that does both lockscreen and banners when the phone isnt locked so you can have both if you want them. You can disable whatever app you want as well.

Slidelock is also from the same Dev

I paid for both lockerpro and slidelock and I prefer locker pro after latest update which added music controls, because it also features actionable notifications on lock screen.

However, due to the uproar concerning the update, the Dev reverted it and has now made lockerpro 2 for those of us who liked the update. He is one cool Dev.

 

[tbayrgs]

Why is it so difficult? It is not one or the other. With Android you can do exactly like the way you preferred on ios or any other way you like. But it is not the case with ios. What is there to debate? Android just gives you more choices than ios.

Did you even read my reply? Obviously not because if you had, you'd have seen me outline why I prefer iOS's method, nothing more. You also would've read that I never denied that Android offers more choice. I also clearly outlined a handful of aspects of iOS's notification implementation that are not available on Android or whose implementation doesn't match iOS's, IMO, meaning aspects that cannot do exactly what i prefer, to use your words.

Can I have all app notification settings centralized in a single location in the settings on Android? No

Can I pull down the notification panel on Android if I have lock screen security activated? No

Let me know if that's not clear enough for you.

 

[mib1800]

Why are you even doubting what can be done with the new extensions if you haven't seen it?

Here's the demo.

http://youtu.be/15UB69VAdF8

That shows me nothing more than what is currently available in android. I installed the photo editor extension to gallery and I can edit the picture.

My phone is always on my person when I'm not at home. If I'm at work, the phone will vibrate and I take it out of my pocket to see what the notification is. If it's not important, it goes back in my pocket. If it's important, I take care of it. If you are getting multiple SMS from different recipients, how will you know which one is very important and needs immediate action? Icons in the status bar will not differentiate priority level with SMS or email.

I just pull down my notification shade. Maybe an extra step but then my info doesn't get splashed all over.

 

[sumsingwong]

Sooooo iOS 8 anyone?

That shows me nothing more than what is currently available in android. I installed the photo editor extension to gallery and I can edit the picture.




I just pull down my notification shade. Maybe an extra step but then my info doesn't get splashed all over.

I have that additional photo editing options installed on my S4 as well. This is extensions into 3rd party apps. It's not the same. Did you even watch the demo extensions for Mobile Safari?

Are you able to pull down the notification shade without unlocking your phone?

 

[Technarchy]

I said this even last year, and I maintain it to this day, I think Apple does a way better job with handling notifications on the lock screen.

Now that those notifications are fully actionable, it flat out blows android out the water.

Though there is a lot to be said for the little notification badges in the status bar.

 

[pdqgp]

I said this even last year, and I maintain it to this day, I think Apple does a way better job with handling notifications on the lock screen. Now that those notifications are fully actionable, it flat out blows android out the water.

So Android users don't have options to do what you're referencing above? Really? I have very easy access to my notifications in customizable pop ups based on notifications origin. Phone calls, alerts, texts and emails all pop up in unique ways and styles on my phones lock screen. Doing so is nothing more than installing an app that allows for such customization. That customization and option is what blows iOS out of the water.

 

[Vegastouch]

Yes you can. This is all ridiculous. I hardly use the photo editor so who cares how either is implemented. The end result is the same. And you can do actions with lock screen notifications. Let's not street another Android vs Apple again. They are just getting to the party on this stuff anyways.

 

[Robster3]

I said this even last year, and I maintain it to this day, I think Apple does a way better job with handling notifications on the lock screen.

Now that those notifications are fully actionable, it flat out blows android out the water.

Though there is a lot to be said for the little notification badges in the status bar.

Only problem is you don't know they are there if you are not near your phone.

 

[Technarchy]

Only problem is you don't know they are there if you are not near your phone.

What exactly is this supposed to mean?

 

[TechGod]

Yes you can. This is all ridiculous. I hardly use the photo editor so who cares how either is implemented. The end result is the same. And you can do actions with lock screen notifications. Let's not street another Android vs Apple again. They are just getting to the party on this stuff anyways.

ITS A DIFFERENT THING, HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT??!!

Oh and since you don't use a photo editor, no one else cares? Yeah you are great and being a judge.

 

[mib1800]

ITS A DIFFERENT THING, HOW CAN YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT??!!

Oh and since you don't use a photo editor, no one else cares? Yeah you are great and being a judge.

What is so different? You tell us. From the video all I see is you open the photo editor app to edit the photo and then the photo in the gallery is refreshed. What is so miraculous about that?

 

[mib1800]

I said this even last year, and I maintain it to this day, I think Apple does a way better job with handling notifications on the lock screen.

Now that those notifications are fully actionable, it flat out blows android out the water.

Though there is a lot to be said for the little notification badges in the status bar.

Android notifications are actionable as well. So what is blown up? Your assertion maybe lol.

Android provides the base framework unlike ios which is fixed in stone in the os. It is up to android developers how to organize and manage notifications. Once an app put out notifications other apps can react to them.

So you can have 3rd party widgets on lockscreen taking all existing outstanding notifications and redisplay them in the manner you like. There are many apps/widgets/lockscreen app for this. This definitely is more powerful than ios.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

Android notifications are actionable as well. So what is blown up? Your assertion maybe lol.

Android provides the base framework unlike ios which is fixed in stone in the os. It is up to android developers how to organize and manage notifications. Once an app put out notifications other apps can react to them.

So you can have 3rd party widgets on lockscreen taking all existing outstanding notifications and redisplay them in the manner you like. There are many apps/widgets/lockscreen app for this. This definitely is more powerful than ios.

One of the major things I have liked on iOS since departing from Android is the way everything follows the same theme. It all looks like it belongs together. I absolutely hated widgets and felt they cluttered up home screens so this has never been a positive for me. The fact android apps are often very different from each other and screens can be customised with all sorts of strange looking widgets and many different ways to be notified of alerts, but for some of us its the simplicity and fluidity of the OS that wins us over. People often say Apple is playing catch up and can't do half the things Android can do, but in all honesty I'm doing the same tasks now that I was on my S3 nearly 2 years ago.

 

[mib1800]

One of the major things I have liked on iOS since departing from Android is the way everything follows the same theme. It all looks like it belongs together. I absolutely hated widgets and felt they cluttered up home screens so this has never been a positive for me. The fact android apps are often very different from each other and screens can be customised with all sorts of strange looking widgets and many different ways to be notified of alerts, but for some of us its the simplicity and fluidity of the OS that wins us over. People often say Apple is playing catch up and can't do half the things Android can do, but in all honesty I'm doing the same tasks now that I was on my S3 nearly 2 years ago.

I only agree with you on the UI consistency.

I am the more practical person wrt to fluidity. I find the ios UI feels like slow motion compared to my note3 especially scrolling. Scrolling is really bad on iPhone. Add to the horribly slow transition animation on ios is really ridiculous. I turned off animation in my note3 and window shows up much faster.

Ios can do everything for you but for me it is a major CMI. Basic stuff like automatic sound/ring profile (e.g switching to silent based on calendar entry) is non existence. So many other automation scenarios are not possible with ios. Iphone is passive like a donkey. It only does stuff when you give it a kick. My note3 does tasks for me without me lifting a finger like turning on/off sound during appropriate time or log my sms/phone activities into a calendar or warn me when my data/call limits is reached etc etc.

 

[TechGod]

What is so different? You tell us. From the video all I see is you open the photo editor app to edit the photo and then the photo in the gallery is refreshed. What is so miraculous about that?

Nope. You download the editor, it the developer has implemented the API, you go to the STOCK photos app and tap edit, now as many filters or whatever the developer has allowed show up in the stock Photos app instead of opening that app in the first place.

 

[mib1800]

Nope. You download the editor, it the developer has implemented the API, you go to the STOCK photos app and tap edit, now as many filters or whatever the developer has allowed show up in the stock Photos app instead of opening that app in the first place.

As i said Android apps can do this in as well.

 

[sentinelsx]

For people saying how iOS lock screen notifications blow android out, I guess they missed a mini discussion of two apps a while back that do the exact same thing, show you notifications exactly iOS style, with a little extra.

 

[TechGod]

For people saying how iOS lock screen notifications blow android out, I guess they missed a mini discussion of two apps a while back that do the exact same thing, show you notifications exactly iOS style, with a little extra.

Except they aren't native.