As far as I've been able to tell from skimming a handful of the pages in this thread, most of those are more cosmetic than fundamental; the only one I'm certain involves actual OS-component upgrades is the Safari upgrade, as (as has been mentioned) it requires upgraded library files. I'll take time at some point to diff the Sorbet libraries and such against a stock 10.5.8 install to find out what else was changed, then uncripple them as appropriate. An example: just in passing, I noted that a few parts (but not all) of the Bash install were altered (by memory and possibly wrong, from version 2.3 to version 3.1.4), and I'm honestly puzzled as to why that specific version was chosen. (The current version is 5.2.something, and has a feature that enables a backward-compatibility mode for the stock version while still incorporating vital security fixes.) There are almost certainly other changes that were accidentally incomplete, and at some point I want to dig into what they are.
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Sorbet Leopard - Your Power Mac Unleashed
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for safari webkit was installed, it says so on original sorbet link at machintoshgarden
So I see; but the closest thing to documentation, the Sorbet changelogs, is frustratingly light on details. It's more useful as direction on where to look for the changes than as an actual list of them.
Having investigated further, the Webkit upgrade was something a private individual built (a stunning achievement! I'm awed at the amount of work involved), but he did so only in 32-bit mode. I'm trying to find a way to contact him to ask for a dual-bitness recompile, but it's not looking good.
Back in 2022 I mentioned that I'd completely reconditioned a 20" G4 iMac, maxed with 2GB memory & new 120GB SSD and installed Sorbet Leopard and this totally transformed the 'Sunflower'. It was an early version of Sorbet Leopard and InterwebPPC & Aquaweb micro appeared in the dock on initial boot, and functioned correctly.
Today I've just refurbished a 12" 1.25Ghz Powerbook with SSD and installed Sorbet Leopard 1.5. On boot, InterwebPPC & Aquaweb micro are absent, and I'm unable to go on-line. I'm obviously missing something quite obvious but cant figure it out. Some words of wisdom therefore required......
Thanks!
Today I've just refurbished a 12" 1.25Ghz Powerbook with SSD and installed Sorbet Leopard 1.5. On boot, InterwebPPC & Aquaweb micro are absent, and I'm unable to go on-line. I'm obviously missing something quite obvious but cant figure it out. Some words of wisdom therefore required......
Thanks!
Did you repair permissions (think there's a script bundled in there?) Remember at start the install will be set up as if it's still on the author's Mac.
Thanks for rapid reply. Couldn't see a specific bundled script to repair permissions in the Sorbet Tools folder, but did run the 'Periodic Daily' maintenance script.
In Disc Utility I verified Disc Permissions which threw up a hundred or so permissions differ and a number of SUID file warnings. I haven't as yet repaired these disc permisions, and holding off pending any additional advise, perhaps from Z970 himself. Incidently the install was performed on a Transcend PATA/IDE SSD.
When I first installed Sorbet on the G4 iMac with a Crucial SATA SSD, it's not impossible that I downloaded InterwebPPC from the Sorbet App Store but can't recall doing so, and thought that it was part of the original download package and appeared in the dock by default. If so I'm sure Z970 will confirm........or otherwise.
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This is from the installation instructions on macintoshgarden:
"Installation will take anywhere between 10 to 30 minutes depending on your hardware configuration. Once installed, you are then free to reboot into the new system whenever ready. Upon doing so, repair the system disk permissions (accessible via Disk Utility → Repair Disk Permissions) at your earliest convenience as the final step in the setup process."
You might be a long time waiting for advice from z970 - it's well over a year since I've seen him comment anywhere.
Dronecatcher, many thanks for the additional comments! I should have some time tomorrow to devote to this 12" PowerBook, and will let you know how I get on.
I had a working installation of Sorbet Leopard on my G4 Cube.
When I ran the script to enable the HK iSub 2000 speakers, the sound device was gone entirely.
Running the uninstall script didn't bring sound back.
The boot chime has disappeared and the sound device on all other partitiones (OS 9.2, Tiger) has disappeared as well.
How can I get it back?
When I ran the script to enable the HK iSub 2000 speakers, the sound device was gone entirely.
Running the uninstall script didn't bring sound back.
The boot chime has disappeared and the sound device on all other partitiones (OS 9.2, Tiger) has disappeared as well.
How can I get it back?
The volume of the boot chime is tied to the system volume in Mac OS.
If you boot into a not Sorbet installation and adjust the volume you should get the chime back.
If you boot into a not Sorbet installation and adjust the volume you should get the chime back.
Well I downloaded the dmg from archive.org and when I installed I noticed Simplified Chinese is broken. After checking files I noticed a lot of Simplified Chinese related localization files are missing. I cannot understand why. I mean, every other language, including Traditional Chinese works just fine.
Howdy.
Nearly two years ago, I wrote a guide to improve performance on iOS devices locked to iOS 9 (iPad 2, iPhone 4S, etc), and it's been sitting around since then in limbo because I've had absolutely no idea what to do with it once it was actually finished, and furthermore resolved at the time to simplify things a little bit and take an extended siesta from social media while I refocused on matters elsewhere.
But long story short, after dealing with more than a few crises and then nearly dying in the time since then, I figured that I'd may as well just post it here on MacRumors (over in the iOS section) so that it could at least help out however many people it reaches in the meantime.
And since it is well established that everyone in this thread is quite interested in extending the useful life of older Apple products beyond their original designs, I figured it was probably relevant to mention here as well. And because life is short, so why not?
Let me know what you think ... and it's nice to see you all once again.
Nearly two years ago, I wrote a guide to improve performance on iOS devices locked to iOS 9 (iPad 2, iPhone 4S, etc), and it's been sitting around since then in limbo because I've had absolutely no idea what to do with it once it was actually finished, and furthermore resolved at the time to simplify things a little bit and take an extended siesta from social media while I refocused on matters elsewhere.
But long story short, after dealing with more than a few crises and then nearly dying in the time since then, I figured that I'd may as well just post it here on MacRumors (over in the iOS section) so that it could at least help out however many people it reaches in the meantime.
And since it is well established that everyone in this thread is quite interested in extending the useful life of older Apple products beyond their original designs, I figured it was probably relevant to mention here as well. And because life is short, so why not?
Let me know what you think ... and it's nice to see you all once again.
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Welcome back and as someone who has also faced crises and continues to do so, it's good to see that you made it through them intact.
For many of us, life is not easy and we just have to do the best we can to persevere and survive come what may.
One foot in front of the other. Just keep looking forward.
@z970 Thank you for everything you have done and do now.
@z970 Thank you for everything you have done and do now.
Good to hear from you again. Don't give up and keep keeping on.
Has anyone else seen a full disk issue with a Sorbet fresh install?
I have 2 partitions (1 of which contains sorbet), a second disk and USB drive mounted in my G5. In sorbet no files can be written to any mounted filesystem, I get a full disk error message when attempting to copy files. Also when checking 'get info' on each drive it doesn't show drive usage or capacity.
if I reboot into standard Leopard on the other partition there is no problem doing the same write task and 'get info' provides the correct disk info for all drives as you'd expect.
I have 2 partitions (1 of which contains sorbet), a second disk and USB drive mounted in my G5. In sorbet no files can be written to any mounted filesystem, I get a full disk error message when attempting to copy files. Also when checking 'get info' on each drive it doesn't show drive usage or capacity.
if I reboot into standard Leopard on the other partition there is no problem doing the same write task and 'get info' provides the correct disk info for all drives as you'd expect.
Check the permissions on the hard drive space. It looks as if it has been set to read-only somehow. You should be able to check from your Leopard volume.
If it is a fresh installation of Sorbet with no data that needs saving, I would just blitz it and install again.
@AdelaideBen I haven't thought much about Sorbet since Revision 1.5 came out, but while the disk image method does have its advantages, this is one of the reasons I would eventually want to rewrite everything into a traditional install script (to be applied on a fresh 10.5 install) in order to improve modularity and lessen the potential for errors, as was originally planned back in spring '22. At the same time I would also want to refresh the app store with a more polished user interface using far more matured code, and perhaps a few more entries.
Outside of that, I'm sort of drawing blanks at this point. Does anyone have any other ideas on what could be adjusted in another hypothetical revision?
Outside of that, I'm sort of drawing blanks at this point. Does anyone have any other ideas on what could be adjusted in another hypothetical revision?
I enjoyed the leopard rebirth theme, but it would be nice to be able to revert to a more stock appearance too. Don't know how doable it would be, but that would be on my wishlist. The dock animations particularly are a little laggy on my PowerBook with this theme.