Some people actually really liked the new show, so you might as well se a couple of episodes to see if it is something for you.
And General Chang quoting Shakespeare.
I got a chuckle of it when Chancellor Gorkon said: "You have not experienced Shakespeare until you have read him in the original Klingon." It's true, it's true. In the original Klingon Romeo and Juliet, there is no crying like the in Hew-mon version. As Spock noted, Klingons have no tear ducts.He also repeated "To be or not ...." and then a photon torpedo hit...And General Chang quoting Shakespeare.
Here are a few General Chang quotes.
Hamlet: "To be or not to be?" That is the question which preoccupies our people, Captain Kirk.
Merchant of Venice: "Tickle us, do we not laugh? Prick us, do we not bleed? Wrong us, shall we not revenge?"
Julius Ceasar: "Cry havoc, and let slip the Dogs of War."
Romeo and Juliet AND Henry IV part 2: Well, most kind... "parting is such sweet sorrow." Captain, "have we not heard the chimes at midnight?"
Ugh I hate running roughshod over canon like that. I mean there can be the odd mistake or continuity error, or the "what was the writer thinking?" midichlorians being one of the latter.
Yeah. Kinda.
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I'm not too bothered by the fact that they recast him, I guess Zachary Quinto didn't want to do TV anymore or there's some other issues.I was going to respond, but I think you pretty much nailed my thoughts on Discovery.
This is interesting news, an iconic role has been cast (since D is in the TV universe, and there's already plot elements around his family
https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/star-trek-discovery-spock-1202904311/
Cylons, somehow you knew my weakness.Not a reboot, definitely TV Trek canon - can't really get into any details without spoilers, but the showrunners ... er, sort of like the Cylons, "Have a plan"
Damn it, now I want to watch it, more. I may subscribe to it to bing watch Season 1.
I could see him as Spock. This article says this series takes place before the original ST.I was going to respond, but I think you pretty much nailed my thoughts on Discovery.
This is interesting news, an iconic role has been cast (since D is in the TV universe, and there's already plot elements around his family
https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/star-trek-discovery-spock-1202904311/
Discovery is set 10 years before TOS
10 years before TOS on paper. Technology wise though, they are about 50-100 years after TNG in same aspects.
Spoken truly.
iscovery on a physical store here in México.
I apologize for all the threads I'm quoting, but I just discovered (rediscovered?, can't remember) this thread.
Not to be controversial, I do agree that most probably Picard is the best Enterprise captain, however, Archer might have given him a run for his money.
Now, bare with me just one moment: When Picard came of age, there already was a "role model" of what the captain of a federation starship should/could be; but when Archer departed (prematurely and on a rush) to Qo'noS, he made it along as he went, without a blueprint of what was expected of him. On my book, that counts, is not the same to be Magallanes or Colón than a modern cruise captain.
Me too!!
I count myself lucky that outside of the US Netflix carries the ST universe. However I wouldn't count on it being permanent. I.E., I discovered (watched it for the first time front to back) TOS a few years back (around 5 years ago) and after I finished with it, and while I was trying to keep going with TNG, All of ST disappeared from Netflix LatAm. It was about 2-3 years later that it came back.
I really enjoyed Discovery, however, I do recognize it is a very different animal than TNG or TOS. Isaacs is superb!I was really sad to see him go at the end of season 1, no matter how beautiful that final scene was
Now, give Disco a chance, be aware that people began judging it even before the first season ended. It is like judging TNG on Enocunter at Fairpont alone...
I think I've already seen a box set of ST
It is more playing fast and loose with canon, more than shredding it, but I think it might have an explanation.
About the klingons: they are completely coherent with themselves and you will still like them, it is just that their physical appearance is different than before (just like TNG klingons were phenotypically different from TOS Klingons). And, just as we are not the same people we were 10-20 years ago, the klingons might behave differently from the ones that come 10 years later, and still be coherent and true.
Star Fleet officers acting like Klingons (no offence to Lt. Cmd Worf), target lock on a cloaked ship(WUT?!Not a reboot, definitely TV Trek canon - can't really get into any details without spoilers, but the showrunners ... er, sort of like the Cylons, "Have a plan"
)...that's the first episode. So yeah, they throw Roddenberry rules out the door. It's not canon in my book.). They could go from Earth to the galactic core and back withing a matter of weeks (Voyager, one of the fastest Star Fleet ship of its time would 35 year or so to make the same trip). Enterprise (from NX-01 to NCC-1701-E), having various travel from Earth to the Klingon homeworld, Qonos. Qonos is in the Beta Quadrant same with the Romulan homeworld. Ships travel as fast or slow as the plot dictates. That is a forgivable sin.
I apologize for all the threads I'm quoting, but I just discovered (rediscovered?, can't remember) this thread.
Not to be controversial, I do agree that most probably Picard is the best Enterprise captain, however, Archer might have given him a run for his money.
Now, bare with me just one moment: When Picard came of age, there already was a "role model" of what the captain of a federation starship should/could be; but when Archer departed (prematurely and on a rush) to Qo'noS, he made it along as he went, without a blueprint of what was expected of him. On my book, that counts, is not the same to be Magallanes or Colón than a modern cruise captain.
Me too!!
I count myself lucky that outside of the US Netflix carries the ST universe. However I wouldn't count on it being permanent. I.E., I discovered (watched it for the first time front to back) TOS a few years back (around 5 years ago) and after I finished with it, and while I was trying to keep going with TNG, All of ST disappeared from Netflix LatAm. It was about 2-3 years later that it came back.
I really enjoyed Discovery, however, I do recognize it is a very different animal than TNG or TOS. Isaacs is superb!I was really sad to see him go at the end of season 1, no matter how beautiful that final scene was
Now, give Disco a chance, be aware that people began judging it even before the first season ended. It is like judging TNG on Encounter at Fairpont, or its first season alone...
I think I've already seen a box set of ST
It is more playing fast and loose with canon, more than shredding it, but I think it might have an explanation.
About the klingons: they are completely coherent with themselves and you will still like them, it is just that their physical appearance is different than before (just like TNG klingons were phenotypically different from TOS Klingons). And, just as we are not the same people we were 10-20 years ago, the klingons might behave differently from the ones that come 10 years later, and still be coherent and true.
Showrunners/producers talking about taking the series 10 years to the TOS "universe", aligning with other TV Trek shows, etc. - now you may not like what they've chosen to do, you may think some aspects of the show conflict with established "TV Trek rules", but in the future, any new shows/development will include ST as part of canon, just like TOS/TNG/DS9/V/E
Ah... So maybe what happens in Disco is the catalyst for things that become canon. Cloaking technology in it's infancy, which is why it didn't fool the sensors. Because of the actions of Georgius and Burnham, Star Fleet makes discipline a priority, allowing the execution of mutinous officers (TOS: Turnabout Intruder). The new look Klingon the result of the Augment retrovirus (horrible story line, which is part of the reason Enterprise sucked). Well, if they can integrate it into existing canon, then I might grudgingly accept it as canon. The JJ Abram rubbish will never be canon in my book.It's intended to be, so that's what I meant in my response
Yeah, it is supposed to fit into canon, and I've seen stories with the showrunners claiming they will resolve/explain any differences/goofiness we see vs. known canon.Not a reboot, definitely TV Trek canon - can't really get into any details without spoilers, but the showrunners ... er, sort of like the Cylons, "Have a plan"
I can't speak to terrestrial, but that might be a long ways away. It was announced at the convention I was at https://trekmovie.com/2018/08/05/breaking-star-trek-discovery-season-one-blu-ray-and-dvd-announced/. Not clear if that date extends beyond the US.
Les Moonves is the head of CBS. In the US, to see it, one needs to subscribe to CBS All Acess.
, this forum software is converting ST colon D into ST, so I use ST: D. The folks who don't like the show or don't like having to pay for it call it STD. 