Same, after watching the Last Jedi, I nearly walked away from the franchise.They almost ruined my love for the franchise.
Same, after watching the Last Jedi, I nearly walked away from the franchise.They almost ruined my love for the franchise.
This situation with large media corporations ruining beloved franchises, you can chalk it up to incompetence, lazyness, over reliance on past successes, or it’s like a family member who decides to steal from the family calculating how far they can go before they are tossed out.Same, after watching the Last Jedi, I nearly walked away from the franchise.
I think you're 100% spot on. This was George Lucas' baby, he cared for it, he nurtured it, he went out of his way to ensure that it was exactly what he wanted. Sometimes he over did it, but you cannot condemn him of just trying to phone it in.This situation with large media corporations ruining beloved franchises,
And why aren’t they working on movies? Because they know that Star Wars series are better ROI on Disney+I think you're 100% spot on. This was George Lucas' baby, he cared for it, he nurtured it, he went out of his way to ensure that it was exactly what he wanted. Sometimes he over did it, but you cannot condemn him of just trying to phone it in.
Disney had no such love, they saw a beloved franchise with a dedicated fanbase and they saw dollar signs. They themselves phoned it in. Solo: A Star Wars Story is testament to that mentality. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and I will say Rogue One is one of the best Star Wars movies out there.
Dave Filoni who does many of the Star wars TV stuff loves Star Wars and the quality of his work shows such care. My criticism are mostly based on the movie division. I don't even think they have a Star Wars movie scheduled or planned at this stage
I don't know if I mentioned this, or someone mentioned it, but I came across some quotes or articles from George Lucas that he said that he made Star Wars for kids, and if you take that in mind with regards to the original trilogy and more so, for the prequals, that makes a ton of sense. For instance through my 18 year old eyes, (my age when Return of the Jedi), the Ewoks were stupid, but kids at ate that up
16 years had passed when the Phantom Menace was released and so the adult star wars fans were expecting adult type content, but instead got another youth focused story, i.e., Anakin as a child, Jar Jar Binks, etc.
I stumbled upon an article where the author loved the prequals, why? Because he was a kid and ate that up, those kids are now adults and they all look fondly at the prequals, just as us older folks look fondly on the original trilogy. This is also why the prequals where largely panned - adult fans had a different expectation then what was made.
With that said, my absolute favorite star wars movie was Revenge of the Sith. I know I posted that before, and I know the dialog is at times, wooden at best, but its my favorite.
Oh to be sure, whether we're talking about Han shot first, or Luke/Lei's kiss. There's a measure of revisionist, and retconning to the franchise.The trouble with George Lucas quotations about Star Wars, is he is not consistent.
This is a nice list and like you I am sure I can find more... I dislike the sequels immensely. They almost ruined my love for the franchise.
Rogue One and then Mando brought it back for me, followed by Andor.
I think The Bad Batch is pretty good too.
So it seems the new season of the Mandalorian's ratings have been lack luster. Words like ratings crash are being bantered about.
I saw one article (I can't find it now) and it was basically stating that baby yoda arc really needs to be wrapped up I don't have any suggestions or thoughts.
I wonder if people are just baby-Yoda'd out at this pointThere's a rumor that Katie Sackoff will take over as the lead. After all, the show is called "THE Mandalorian." It doesn't specify which. Plus, Pascal's availability could be an issue.
I wonder if people are just baby-Yoda'd out at this point
I don't know, but it did worse then the under performing Boba Fett - hopefully this is a temporary setback and the series will find it's footing
There's a rumor that Katie Sackoff will take over as the lead. After all, the show is called "THE Mandalorian." It doesn't specify which. Plus, Pascal's availability could be an issue.
Obi-Wan started slow, but I felt the last two (three?) episodes were excellent.Maybe people got put off by the mediocrity of The Book of Boba Fett and Obi-Wan
Obi-Wan started slow, but I felt the last two (three?) episodes were excellent.
One of my criticisms of the sequals, is that the protagonist is too powerful at the beginning of the story. In this case Rey. What is there for her to over-come? An uneducated scavenger who can speak to droids, and wookies. Can fly space craft. Can beat Kylo Ren in a light saber duel even though she's never even held one and he spent his entire life training.
With Obi-Wan, we have a broken man, who's connection to the force has been severed (due to PTSD/guilt?) So its a great story from that perspective of someone over coming so much.
That's probably not far off from the truthRight now, he just seems like a dude, wandering
he just seems like a dude, wandering around doing...stuff.
My criticisms of the sequels:
The Force Awakens
The Last Jedi
- The heroine too powerful - Rey a scavenger somehow can talk to Wookies, can talk with any and all droids, knows how to fly, can fix and repair any ship. Can easily light saber duel someone who has trained all of his life. Good story telling shows a hero or heroine unable to attain a goal initially and then fight/struggle and work to overcome. Hard to show someone improving when they’re already great at nearly everything
- A blatant copy of the New Hope
- Capt. Phasma under-used
- Lack of context regarding “The Resistance” the republic and the New Order
The Rise of Skywalker
- Slow moving bombers – why??? Makes no sense
- Poe can disable a dreadnought ship’s defenses single handed? Why have only a handful of defensive guns?
- Why did they not have air cover to protect the fleet as leapt into hostile territory.
- Tracking a ship in hyperspace as a major theme.
- Size of the New Order – their base planet is destroyed now they have a huge fleet?
- Why shoot the base first (which isn’t moving) when you can shoot the transport ship and then the base
- Why have a movie that is a chase scene.
- Why didn’t the First order send a couple of ships in front of the resistance via hyperspace and then just shoot them as they travelled to the secret base
- Why did Holdo keep secret the fact they’re running to a secret base.
- The whole Rey parent theme
- Rose saving Finn because Love will win.
- Killing Supreme Leader
- General Hux menace was replaced with slapstick and bungling.
- The whole casino side quest
- Finn being a coward, i.e., tried to run away.
- Made Luke out to be whiney and weak
- Kylo Ren saying to Luke saving his soul – there are no souls in star wars
- Princess Lei’s Mary Poppin’s scene
- Social commentary regarding money
- Capt. Phasma not used
My greatest complaints lie in the last jedi, and I did enjoy Episode 7, but the hot stinking mess that Episode 8 was horrible. I could probably go on complaining about episode 8 but you got my point.
- Rose was kicked to the curb – she could have been a great character in the movie.
- One word – space horses. That whole scene with space horses running on the deck of the space ship was stupid
- The first order/final order can raise up armies at will. Now they have enough people to pilot a thousand ships?
- Trying to fix the story line that the Last Jedi messed up
- Supreme Leader was a vat grown clown for Palpatine?
- Finn is suddenly force sensitive
- Rey mistakenly shoots lightening?
- Lightspeed Skipping, ruins the continuity for the New Hope. How are the tie fighters able to follow/track the Millennium falcon “skip jumping” when in the prior movie there needed to be special equipment and some sort of super computer.
- Missed opportunities with Exegol, more could have been done
- It would have been more believable to have the Supreme Leader survive the bisecting then Palpatine still alive. Hell Darth Maul survived it. While I loved Palpatine in the movie, I think it was a mistake to trot him out, but they had no other villains since they killed off Supreme Leader
Hard to show someone improving when they’re already great at nearly everything
Honestly, I feel like this is what it aways should have been. I don't even mind Grogu, but it should have been more Lone Wolf & Cub mixed with Sergio Leone. Bringing in Luke, the Dark Saber, etc just kinda killed its momentum. Din shouldn't be the High Mandalor, ever... He should have gotten the Dark Saber and immediately it should have went to Bo-Katan, like it did when Sabine gave it to her. I'm still not sure why Filoni wrote that whole plot reversal.
I feel it should have stayed aways from the "civilized" parts of the galaxy, have it be more Cobb Vanth and broken Empire, less Jedi.
As to the other stuff, I've really enjoyed it. I honestly feel like Star Wars is better made for long form storytelling and monster-of-the-week. Honestly, after watching the OG trilogy again, they're not really great movies. I mean, I know they helped change Hollywood, but man, the dialogue is cringe, and Luke is, as much as I hate the term a "Mary Su" I mean I get it, so is Rey and Anakin, they're the Chosen One(s). Out of the 12 movies, I think there's like 2-3 genuinely great movies in there. The rest is fluff.
Agreed that the Grogu story is running out of impetus. No way is he going to start wearing a little beskar helmet and start saying "The way, this is", right? The whole story of the Mandalorians taking back their home planet could still be a good one, regardless.