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Actually, the tip jar doesn't bother me too much. I usually don't tip unless it's a full service dining. But occasionally it's The Holidays, or (rarely) a barista really did a great job welcoming me and even spending a minute to chat with me, so I consider giving a tip. That tip jar is there simply to remind me, but I don't feel pressured.

The iPad PAYMENT/TIP SCREEN, on the other hand... does annoy me, and I feel like I will get the Evil Eye from the cashier if I click on the screen button that says "NO TIP"

This is from all the restaurants that offer the iPad tipping screen, so it's not just Starbucks, so many fast-casual restaurants shove this iPad Pay Screen on you, pressuring you to click to give them some kind of tip. 15% or 20% or 25% are the typical suggestions on the tipping screen.


YOU WANT ME TO TIP $3 BECAUSE YOU HANDED ME A FREAKIN MUFFIN??!! ARE YOU NUTS?!! :mad:

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I love tipping. Having worked at Wal-Mart for $4.xx/hr in the midwest in my past... I know what it is like to have little extra $ to make the day better. If you got a smile, things go well during the purchase, I can afford to drop $1-3 to brighten your day - makes me happy.

That said I also am fully aware that management usually makes or breaks these situations. Workers are going to be overloaded/stressed when management isn't doing their job.

I love tipping. I used to go to a Peruvian restaurant near our house and always tipped heavily - not expecting anything in return. They gave us special dishes, added a lot for free, even went out of their way to do stuff. Sad that Covid caused them to close (they gave us a free meal before they did too) - tears on both sides.


Anyway, I'm a sucker for tipping. lol. To each their own tho. I do think tipping is shoved in the face at some places way too much.


Didn't mean to make @compwiz1202 sad!!! :( One of my sisters actually worked for Starbucks for years up until recently. :p
 
Believe it or not, Starbucks has gotten worse with the reward offers, at least for me:
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Purchase something everyday for 5 days, and I get a whopping 10 extra stars.

I don't go to Starbucks nearly as much as I used to, and generally prefer making my drinks at home, but with me going back to my office every other week now, sometimes getting drinks on the go is much more convenient.

If SB had better rewards, I would buy them more often, but the offers have only gotten worse since I first made this thread.

Compare my latest offer to ones I previously posted on the thread:
Here is the latest offer from the Starbucks rewards program:





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It is a shame that the rewards program turned into this. I only go about once a week now to make actual purchases, and this is mostly due to the rewards program.

I wonder if I am the only one, or if there are others not liking the rewards program changes.

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So, here is the latest Starbucks Rewards offer I got in my email today. I think this has been one of the worst ones yet.

So, I got an offer for an extra 15 stars with the purchase of select items.... I guess it is better than getting nothing, but it seems like the rewards are really small now:
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Starbucks still has an award program? I thought it died a few years ago. I used to try to get credit for all of the jugs I bought, and carried a balance on my Starbucks card, and now, hmm... I assumed it died.

How many people missed their online store? I used to buy all kinds of stuff I didn't know I needed. *sigh*
 
Believe it or not, Starbucks has gotten worse with the reward offers, at least for me:
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Purchase something everyday for 5 days, and I get a whopping 10 extra stars.

I don't go to Starbucks nearly as much as I used to, and generally prefer making my drinks at home, but with me going back to my office every other week now, sometimes getting drinks on the go is much more convenient.

If SB had better rewards, I would buy them more often, but the offers have only gotten worse since I first made this thread.

Compare my latest offer to ones I previously posted on the thread:

Wow that’s horrible. What I did was apply for their prepaid Starbucks card, and use it like a debit card. That way I still get stars just by being everyday items. Once a month or every other month, I use 150 stars for a free drink. I have enough now for 7 drinks. I have to blame Starbucks on escalating my GERD symptoms with their coffee. I’ve settled on the Dragonfruit refresher.
 
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Actually, the tip jar doesn't bother me too much. I usually don't tip unless it's a full service dining. But occasionally it's The Holidays, or (rarely) a barista really did a great job welcoming me and even spending a minute to chat with me, so I consider giving a tip. That tip jar is there simply to remind me, but I don't feel pressured.

The iPad PAYMENT/TIP SCREEN, on the other hand... does annoy me, and I feel like I will get the Evil Eye from the cashier if I click on the screen button that says "NO TIP"

This is from all the restaurants that offer the iPad tipping screen, so it's not just Starbucks, so many fast-casual restaurants shove this iPad Pay Screen on you, pressuring you to click to give them some kind of tip. 15% or 20% or 25% are the typical suggestions on the tipping screen.


YOU WANT ME TO TIP $3 BECAUSE YOU HANDED ME A FREAKIN MUFFIN??!! ARE YOU NUTS?!! :mad:

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Most (backward) states have a below poverty level wage for wait staff, and even at that, some establishments KEEP all the tips. Yeah, so your waitress/waiter would make around $1.70 or so an hour, without tips. Apparently the states thought that people WOULD tip, and the wait staff could make a bit more than the going minimum wage.

UNFORTUNATELY, tons of people don't tip. They have some asinine idea that those wait staff are being 'greedy', or 'wanting the good life', and sure that happens, but more often, waitresses get pinched, and prodded and lectured, and harassed. Waiters don't do much better. And delivery people get stiffed quite a bit too.

TIP PEOPLE. They DEPEND ON IT. They make less than the guy that cooked your food! Also ASK if the establishment takes their tips. I've paid with a credit card, and tipped in cash to hopefully help the tip go to the person that served me, and not some callous turd stiffing their employees.

I tip a minimum of 15% in sketchy situations, and usually a standard 20% for everyone else. I tip the housekeepers at the hotels I stay at overnight, if I'm staying the next night. I tip people that carry my bags, I tip people that get me a cab, I tip people that give me a drink at the bar. I sometimes get more towels, I get people wanting to carry my bags all the way to the room, and want to take them back to the lobby. I get better cabs, sometimes. I sometimes get a half shot more (or more).

If you treat people like, well, people, they often treat you well in return. But don't tip to get 'extras', tip to feel better about how you are helping them survive, helping them to see that not all their customers are tight jerks who never tip.

I have to laugh. I returned to a place one, and the bell staff recognized me. One guy actually followed me into the restaurant/bar, and told the head waiter that I was a 'good customer'. We got a window seat, and they comped our deserts. It pays to treat people like they are important. And it can make you feel better too.

(I always tip the barista, and make sure they see that I tipped. It doesn't hurt)

Oh, yeah, the 'tip jar' at one restaurant I worked at, was emptied at the end of the night, and the money was divided up amongst the wait staff, minus a cut for the management. A HUGE CUT! And people that slacked off the night got the same 'cut' as everyone else. They lost a lot of good staff because of that. Tip jar or not, I try to tip individual people, and they often keep it. If someone goes above and beyond, they need some acknowledgement that I appreciated their effort.
 
I actually have to say that while still having Gold status, we've only purchased drinks from Starbucks twice in the past 1.5 years. Last time was basically out of necessity; I was at the airport in Las Vegas.

Instead, I've been going to Scooters. They're mainly a midwest US chain, founded in Omaha, Nebraska (one of the reasons why I go there; I'm born/raised in Omaha) but have been expanding. The founders of Scooters are actually from Fair Oaks, California, which is one of the reasons why there are 3 in the entire state, in which two of those 3 are within a 5 minute drive of me.

In what I would have purchased at Starbucks to get 5-6 free drinks, I have 26 free drinks from Scooters. If I had the time to leave KLAS, I would have gone to the one in Vegas (they currently only have that one for the entire state). They care a lot more and it definitely shows in their service, instead of being rushed and beaten all over the place like the Starbucks is across the street from my closest location.

Comparable prices (slightly less than SBUX), flies under the radar a bit over here in CA (SBUX and Dutch Bros. are slugging it out, like McDonald's/In-n-Out), better service, and all around a much better experience. I top the employees here all the time; not just because they deserve it (they truly do), but they give me a taste of home (hell, they've nicknamed me the "Omaha guy"). Well worth it.

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Believe it or not, Starbucks has gotten worse with the reward offers, at least for me:
View attachment 1819653

Purchase something everyday for 5 days, and I get a whopping 10 extra stars.

I don't go to Starbucks nearly as much as I used to, and generally prefer making my drinks at home, but with me going back to my office every other week now, sometimes getting drinks on the go is much more convenient.

If SB had better rewards, I would buy them more often, but the offers have only gotten worse since I first made this thread.

Compare my latest offer to ones I previously posted on the thread:

Fortunately here in California.... I am frequenting SBX less and less than I used to, thanks to the proliferation of gazillions of Asian boba tea-places (mostly small chains) providing much superior drinks than Starbucks.

I still prefer coffee (even cold brew) as my refreshment of choice.... I just wished that another coffee chain would have TKO'd Starbucks by now, but no such challenger seems to be emerging. The Coffee Bean & Tea Leaf was promising a few years ago.... but they seem to be struggling, did not really make any progress. Two Coffee Beans near me closed down during the pandemic months, while 4 more Starbucks stores opened up within a 10-mile radius of my house.

And yes, the SBX Rewards program gets more miserly every year.
 
I've worked hard to cut my Starbucks consumption down to once a week, perhaps twice on occasion - the only thing I get is matcha creme frappuccinos, which is a very unique item that only Starbucks has.

I've been trying to game the system - by only purchasing when I'm notified for something like double stars or 20 bonus stars, or an offer to get bonus stars when you buy twice between a Tuesday through Monday so I can keep it to once a week. 😚

The challenge has been that Starbucks has experienced tangible shortages of supplies - so that may factor in to why the offers have been so bad (or more rare) lately.
 
I'm back in generating rewards, but not by choice. After abandoning SB because they have this new star system so many years ago I do every once in a while get drinks - while paying cash or using my debit card. Haven't used any of my old SB cards is a couple of years.

That said, the pandemic made ordering in person not viable. So, if I wanted a drink I had to use the app, which meant I had to log in, which meant I started earning stars again.

No idea how many I have, I don't care. The program since the change is complete BS so I ignore it.
 
Most (backward) states have a below poverty level wage for wait staff, and even at that, some establishments KEEP all the tips. Yeah, so your waitress/waiter would make around $1.70 or so an hour, without tips. Apparently the states thought that people WOULD tip, and the wait staff could make a bit more than the going minimum wage.

UNFORTUNATELY, tons of people don't tip. They have some asinine idea that those wait staff are being 'greedy', or 'wanting the good life', and sure that happens, but more often, waitresses get pinched, and prodded and lectured, and harassed. Waiters don't do much better. And delivery people get stiffed quite a bit too.

TIP PEOPLE. They DEPEND ON IT. They make less than the guy that cooked your food! Also ASK if the establishment takes their tips. I've paid with a credit card, and tipped in cash to hopefully help the tip go to the person that served me, and not some callous turd stiffing their employees.

I tip a minimum of 15% in sketchy situations, and usually a standard 20% for everyone else. I tip the housekeepers at the hotels I stay at overnight, if I'm staying the next night. I tip people that carry my bags, I tip people that get me a cab, I tip people that give me a drink at the bar. I sometimes get more towels, I get people wanting to carry my bags all the way to the room, and want to take them back to the lobby. I get better cabs, sometimes. I sometimes get a half shot more (or more).

If you treat people like, well, people, they often treat you well in return. But don't tip to get 'extras', tip to feel better about how you are helping them survive, helping them to see that not all their customers are tight jerks who never tip.

I have to laugh. I returned to a place one, and the bell staff recognized me. One guy actually followed me into the restaurant/bar, and told the head waiter that I was a 'good customer'. We got a window seat, and they comped our deserts. It pays to treat people like they are important. And it can make you feel better too.

(I always tip the barista, and make sure they see that I tipped. It doesn't hurt)

Oh, yeah, the 'tip jar' at one restaurant I worked at, was emptied at the end of the night, and the money was divided up amongst the wait staff, minus a cut for the management. A HUGE CUT! And people that slacked off the night got the same 'cut' as everyone else. They lost a lot of good staff because of that. Tip jar or not, I try to tip individual people, and they often keep it. If someone goes above and beyond, they need some acknowledgement that I appreciated their effort.
I may have mentioned it before, but I'll mention it again. When I get good service in situations where tipping is the norm, I will tip.

But I am not tipping my barista. Those tip things weren't there in the 90s, or the early 00s. Those showed up when people started getting zealous about tipping. Thing is, they hit you with condemnation if you don't. So what, this was never a thing before.

I ordered Olive Garden the other night and the website automatically added a $14 tip - for PICKUP! $14 for someone to walk out to my car and give me the food I ordered? No, I don't tip for that.

But the last time we were in Olive Garden (about 3 weeks ago) the waiter got a $25 tip because his service was very good. I am willing to tip when it warrants it. I'm just not going to do so when it doesn't.

PS. During the years we frequented SB every weekend, we were known to the baristas and 'good customers'. But we never tipped. However, we always treated them with respect and bussed our own tables. Maybe this tipping thing for stuff that you never ordinarily tip for is a substitute to make people feel better about themselves when they treat workers/servers like garbage, IDK.
 
I tried McDonald's coffees and *BLECH* hated them. Where I live, there are few alternatives to the big mermaid, and they are usually crowded and many are just coffee, nothing else.

I use the mermaid's bottled Skinny Vanilla Latte every morning for a jump start but have been dismayed by their spotty stocking at any local store. Occasionally the are out of stock on that variety, and getting the almond milk version ended in late winter for some reason.

But when they killed their online store, and verismo machines, they kinda lost me. I still carry my gold card, but wonder if I'll ever need it. Should I frame it, or toss it. Cutting back on Starbucks isn't a bad thing. They market sugar more than actual coffee, or tea, and their 'snacks' are so often just pre-prepared nasty things. The last time I ever ordered 'food' from a Starbucks was a panini that was sweet, greasy, and hard to eat. I hate to pile on them, but I think they need to change their products and focus. Maybe their rewards program would be more meaningful.
 
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I'm back in generating rewards, but not by choice. After abandoning SB because they have this new star system so many years ago I do every once in a while get drinks - while paying cash or using my debit card. Haven't used any of my old SB cards is a couple of years.

That said, the pandemic made ordering in person not viable. So, if I wanted a drink I had to use the app, which meant I had to log in, which meant I started earning stars again.

No idea how many I have, I don't care. The program since the change is complete BS so I ignore it.

Yes, I remember that 'change', and thought, at the time, 'WTH!'... It just seemed needless, a self-imposed error.
 
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I may have mentioned it before, but I'll mention it again. When I get good service in situations where tipping is the norm, I will tip.

But I am not tipping my barista. Those tip things weren't there in the 90s, or the early 00s. Those showed up when people started getting zealous about tipping. Thing is, they hit you with condemnation if you don't. So what, this was never a thing before.

I ordered Olive Garden the other night and the website automatically added a $14 tip - for PICKUP! $14 for someone to walk out to my car and give me the food I ordered? No, I don't tip for that.

But the last time we were in Olive Garden (about 3 weeks ago) the waiter got a $25 tip because his service was very good. I am willing to tip when it warrants it. I'm just not going to do so when it doesn't.

PS. During the years we frequented SB every weekend, we were known to the baristas and 'good customers'. But we never tipped. However, we always treated them with respect and bussed our own tables. Maybe this tipping thing for stuff that you never ordinarily tip for is a substitute to make people feel better about themselves when they treat workers/servers like garbage, IDK.

You raise interesting points.

I do tip for carryout but primarily for the fact that those servers are STILL underpaid for what they do, and with more people feeling that tipping for carryout being too much, they aren't getting the tips they would have gotten if people could dine in. I'm all behind efforts to raise the minimum wages for waitstaff and other 'tip dependent' workers, just because it's wishful thinking for their employers to hope that customers will in effect subsidize their greed and callousness by helping to make up the difference that other workers are paid. (I did work at a restaurant early in a career as a human where the tips were divided amongst ALL kitchen and wait staff. I felt awkward at that, and eventually they stopped doing it)

I tip 10%, but haven't done carryout much at all.

Your PS, I was a good customer for a while too. I was always appreciative and ordered simple drinks (I witnessed a horrific drink order in LAS. It took them an excruciating time to spew out their demand), and stood out of the way for other customers. On the few times I sat to chat with people, I would cleanup my mess, and often other messes people left. I'm always amazed at the entitled asses that trash restaurant tables and just walk away, but anyway... The bottom line, for me, is 'be nice', 'be considerate', and 'be self contained' (cleanup my own messes, help where possible). *shrug*
 
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You raise interesting points.

I do tip for carryout but primarily for the fact that those servers are STILL underpaid for what they do, and with more people feeling that tipping for carryout being too much, they aren't getting the tips they would have gotten if people could dine in. I'm all behind efforts to raise the minimum wages for waitstaff and other 'tip dependent' workers, just because it's wishful thinking for their employers to hope that customers will in effect subsidize their greed and callousness by helping to make up the difference that other workers are paid. (I did work at a restaurant early in a career as a human where the tips were divided amongst ALL kitchen and wait staff. I felt awkward at that, and eventually they stopped doing it)

I tip 10%, but haven't done carryout much at all.

Your PS, I was a good customer for a while too. I was always appreciative and ordered simple drinks (I witnessed a horrific drink order in LAS. It took them an excruciating time to spew out their demand), and stood out of the way for other customers. On the few times I sat to chat with people, I would cleanup my mess, and often other messes people left. I'm always amazed at the entitled asses that trash restaurant tables and just walk away, but anyway... The bottom line, for me, is 'be nice', 'be considerate', and 'be self contained' (cleanup my own messes, help where possible). *shrug*
I was always taught to tip well for good service. And there have been times where I have tipped an extra amount because a server has gone the extra mile. But ALWAYS treat the staff with respect - even if they are not treating YOU with respect.

Respect goes a long ways. Servers, staff, baristas, they don't work for you (the collective you, not you personally). They aren't servants or slaves and you aren't paying enough for whatever it is you're buying to treat them that way.

So totally agree with you. Lots of people out there treat servers and staff with complete disregard. Aside from the fact that you should treat people how you want to be treated, the mercenary aspect of it is that being polite and respectful goes farther.

I got free custom drinks a lot because I treated the baristas with respect and was polite. But I didn't do it because that's what I was after. I did it because it's right. It just goes a long way.
 
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The thing that makes SBX rewards worth it is the fact you can earn points by buying the bag coffee from retailers as well. If not for that, I wouldn’t even drink Starbucks more than once a month cuz Pikes Place and Breakfast Blend are the only good ones. I guess their program worked 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
Dunkin’ has a really good rewards program. I use both them and Starbucks

I love Dunkin’. I’ve been using the rewards program for years now. They’re cheaper than Starbucks and I love their iced coffee more than Starbucks. I linked Dunkin’ to my Shell Fuel Rewards account, and after every 5th drink, I get an additional $.10/gal towards gas. Add T-Mobile Tuesday’s to it, and I get $.25/gal at least once a month.
 
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Dunkin’ has a really good rewards program. I use both them and Starbucks

😟Don't have any near me. I used to love their nut covered donuts, and the french crullers, but only once a year. I can't figure out why they were all closed. The Dunkin' Donuts was close to the mall, and the McDonald's in the mall closed, which surprised me.
 
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The thing that makes SBX rewards worth it is the fact you can earn points by buying the bag coffee from retailers as well. If not for that, I wouldn’t even drink Starbucks more than once a month cuz Pikes Place and Breakfast Blend are the only good ones. I guess their program worked 🤷🏻‍♂️
They didn't have that back before the last large points change. I might have stayed. Now I don't even look for that.

PS. Pike's Place is ok, but I prefer their Sumatra. I'm much more of a dark roast person and the Breakfast Blend is way too light.
 
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