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Steve Jobs would have...

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...called the designer of that calendar icon in the middle of the night and ordered him to fix it immediately before going back to bed.

It drives me crazy.

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Flashback: https://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/2...les-vic-gundotra-on-a-sunday-about-this-icon/

"We have an urgent issue, one that I need addressed right away. I've already assigned someone from my team to help you, and I hope you can fix this tomorrow" said Steve.

"I've been looking at the Google logo on the iPhone and I'm not happy with the icon. The second O in Google doesn't have the right yellow gradient. It's just wrong and I'm going to have Greg fix it tomorrow."
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you could say the same for all tilted icons when viewed against the others

mail
calendar
reminders
contacts
notes
maps
iphoto
 
If he knew then what we know now …

Past

… Steve Jobs, arguably one of the best business leaders in the industry. …

Apple and NeXT shared the common goal of making the best products they could … magical marriage of hardware and software … when you need to actually do work, the hardware and software become almost invisible compared to what you are doing …
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Recent past, and the present

The post-Steve Jobs era of Apple will officially begin on Tuesday. #AppleEvent #iPhone6 #iWatch #Yosemite #iOS8
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Worth watching as Yosemite butchers the Mac OS UI: Steve Jobs introduces Aqua http://youtu.be/Ko4V3G4NqII
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… Je suis 100 % certain que ce « naufrage » esthétique (n’ayons pas peur des mots) et les innombrables incohérences graphiques de Yosemite (mélange de « flat » et de « non flat ») sont le fruit de rivalitées entre diverses équipes chez Apple… En l’absence de Steve Jobs, personne n’a su prendre les bonnes décisions. Si, si ! Se suis certains que c’est ce qui se passe en ce moment chez Apple depuis iOS7 ! …
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« En l’absence de Steve Jobs… » Cette excuse ridicule, genre tout était génial chez Apple quand il était là …
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… son absence explique quand même un paquet de ratés.
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… le désastre et l'incohérence graphique actuelle, aurait été refusée par Jobs …
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Apple no longer has a single, clear, shared vision for OS X …
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Huge disconnect between #Yosemite and the UI palette I do miss Steve Jobs sometimes.
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I would pay a significant sum of money to watch Steve Jobs react to iOS 7 and Yosemite. …

There is no way on this earth Steve Jobs would be OK with the garbage that is Yosemite. … The entire design. …

It encompasses exactly 0% of the design language Jobs spent his life building.
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I'm thinking that Steve Jobs rolled in his grave when MacOS Yosemite switched to Helvetica Neue as their default OS font.
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It looks hideous. Wait! What's that noise? It's Steve Jobs turning in his grave …
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And this is why I was hesitant to upgrade to Yosemite... Steve Jobs is probably rolling in his grave.
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Steve Jobs would have puked all over Yosemite.
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… Steve Jobs … YOSEMITE OSX is the least aesthetically pleasing OS to date... Way to sink the ship, Mr. Tim Cook! …

avoiding OSX Yosemite at all costs
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as a designer, apple has consistently slowed my workflow by changing the way in which the OSX has been dumbing down its aesthetics and functionality. as far as an engine, running audio software or video editing... to many factors to say. when using illustrator and photoshop over a network... it's been a constant hassle as it redirects the finder to the root folder origins. and didn't notice a change in new Yosemite. Got mad respect for Jony Ive though …

END.
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So putting Yosemite onto my Mac was the worst decision ever. Steve Jobs needs to come back from the grave as his company has gone to ****
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If Steve Jobs would see #Yosemite he would give Tim Cook a proper bitch slap.
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Do not get the Yosemite update if u value ur Mac, rip Steve jobs Apple is trash now
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Without reference to Steve Jobs

https://www.diigo.com/list/grahamperrin/tentenlooksbad for a few hundred more reactions to OS X 10.10.
 
Now just to be clear...

To like a design choice or not is subjective BUT having completely off-centered text on the calendar icon is not.

That's unacceptable and shows that attention to detail in terms of design is completely gone at Apple.
 
X-X said:
Now just to be clear...

To like a design choice or not is subjective BUT having completely off-centered text on the calendar icon is not.

That's unacceptable and shows that attention to detail in terms of design is completely gone at Apple.
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so it was ALWAYS perfect before but now it's completely gone? :D
 
Old icon = date properly centered

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New icon = date and month off-center

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X-X said:
New icon = date and month off-center
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Hate to burst your bubble...but...

I rotated the icon straight in Photoshop and then made the same text in blue and centered it using Photoshop's rulers and snap function.

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So according to Photoshop my blue text is perfectly centered.

It seems to be...uhm...pretty similar to Apple's text underneath. In fact, given that I'm rotating a screen shot by eye I'd say that's as damn close to exact as you're gonna get.

It's centered.
 
X-X said:
Old icon = date properly centered

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New icon = date and month off-center

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My, with all that is going on in the world I can't see how this, even if it was off-centre, would rate on anyone's radar to even comment on as a "problem".

As you have commented, I'd suggest you google "kerning" and then imagine how easy it is for short text strings to look off-centre or misaligned - its a variation of the which-line-is-longer optical illusion.

IMHO you need to recalibrate your definition of "completely"....

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Small White Car said:
Hate to burst your bubble...but...

I rotated the icon straight in Photoshop and then made the same text in blue and centered it using Photoshop's rulers and snap function.

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So according to Photoshop my blue text is perfectly centered.

It seems to be...uhm...pretty similar to Apple's text underneath. In fact, given that I'm rotating a screen shot by eye I'd say that's as damn close to exact as you're gonna get.

It's centered.
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Awesome work! :cool:
 
Small White Car said:
according to Photoshop my blue text is perfectly centered.
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@Small White Car

WRONG.

I'm not talking about the default PNG graphic, of course that one is centered properly - problem is you NEVER see that icon.

The issue is the calendar icon IN THE DOCK - it shows the real date in the dock and that text is ALWAYS off-center.


simonsi said:
I'd suggest you google "kerning" and then imagine how easy it is for short text strings to look off-centre or misaligned
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It was never misaligned before in the history of Mac OS X.
 
Small White Car said:
Hate to burst your bubble...but...

I rotated the icon straight in Photoshop and then made the same text in blue and centered it using Photoshop's rulers and snap function.

Image

So according to Photoshop my blue text is perfectly centered.

It seems to be...uhm...pretty similar to Apple's text underneath. In fact, given that I'm rotating a screen shot by eye I'd say that's as damn close to exact as you're gonna get.

It's centered.
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Even In your example, the "L" in JUL does not "hold space" so, even if it is "computer centered" it is not centered to a human eye. Only a seasoned designer would know this, not a computer or, apparently you, SWC.

In OP's sample the month and the number are visually off center, for sure, even if not off "computer" center.

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simonsi said:
My, with all that is going on in the world I can't see how this, even if it was off-centre, would rate on anyone's radar to even comment on as a "problem".

As you have commented, I'd suggest you google "kerning" and then imagine how easy it is for short text strings to look off-centre or misaligned - its a variation of the which-line-is-longer optical
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And you need to research "holding space" and I say research because holding space is a bit esoteric in today's graphic design, and a simple google search may not get you there.
 
doug in albq said:
And you need to research "holding space" and I say research because holding space is a bit esoteric in today's graphic design, and a simple google search may not get you there.
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LOL - and Holding Space and angled text, people have written their thesis on it.

However on my cMBP display the number 9 is entered to within a pixel so to move it one pixel would simply make matters "worse".

Are you looking at a retina screen? perhaps this is just a scaling issue when scaled to retina resolution.

Use of the word "completely" is still way over the top IMHO.
 
I really like that there are still people like Jesus Diaz and OP who care so much about these little things.
 
X-X said:
@Small White Car

WRONG.

I'm not talking about the default PNG graphic, of course that one is centered properly - problem is you NEVER see that icon.

The issue is the calendar icon IN THE DOCK - it shows the real date in the dock and that text is ALWAYS off-center.




It was never misaligned before in the history of Mac OS X.
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Apart from in 2011 it seems.
 
Technically,

1. that was on the iPhone and not the Calendar icon on the dock and;
2. that involved the "1" and not the whole set of numerical text and;
3. that did not involve the month.

So that article does not disprove OP.
 
countmacula said:
Technically,

1. that was on the iPhone and not the Calendar icon on the dock and;
2. that involved the "1" and not the whole set of numerical text and;
3. that did not involve the month.

So that article does not disprove OP.
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Well his main concern seemed to be the lack of design care it intimated rather than this error itself, but it seems such blatant disregard has been around for a while....
 
simonsi said:
My, with all that is going on in the world I can't see how this, even if it was off-centre, would rate on anyone's radar to even comment on as a "problem".
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It may not be for the world to care about. It may not be for you to care about. But it is for someone to care about, and that someone should have been employed at Apple.
 
There's a point that perception is a design factor... That's why the architects of the Golden Gate and the Parthenon skewed straight and/or parallel lines, to make them appear more regular. Perfection is only as good as the perceivers, and we (or our eyes) are not perfect.

That said, there's very little reason I myself would concern myself with such an obscure detail.
 
Perhaps a trip outdoors and fresh air, may realign your perspective.... Try it, everything will look centred after...

If that doesn't work, the only help maybe some recreational aperitif....

Good luck !!
 
X-X said:
...called the designer of that calendar icon in the middle of the night and ordered him to fix it immediately before going back to bed.

It drives me crazy.

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Flashback: https://www.macrumors.com/2011/08/2...les-vic-gundotra-on-a-sunday-about-this-icon/
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I'm sorry but who gives a stuff what Steve would've done. HE'S DEAD. HE'S NOT COMING BACK.

And if such a small detail drives you crazy, leave Apple feedback and go back to Mavericks. It's still 100% supported.

Honestly enough threads about what Steve would or would not have done.
 
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