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You need to rip the content at the lowest common denominator. If the iPhone is the smallest screen you'll be viewing the content on, and you want full compatibility, then rip the content with the iPhone preset. It won't look top notch on the AppleTV, but it WILL play on both. If you rip it at AppleTV quality, it will NOT play on your iPhone.

That's a helpful and clear answer, thank you. Would you recommend bumping the encode settings; ie bitrate or 2pass etc to squeeze as much out of the iphone encode as possible? Or is the resolution limit going to make any tweaks redundant?

Thanks again!
 
That's a helpful and clear answer, thank you. Would you recommend bumping the encode settings; ie bitrate or 2pass etc to squeeze as much out of the iphone encode as possible? Or is the resolution limit going to make any tweaks redundant?

Thanks again!

For simplicity's sake, I would just use the presets, and leave it at that. I turn on two-pass with turbo second pass... but that's just me. For more information, visit the handbrake forum. Good luck.
 
For simplicity's sake, I would just use the presets, and leave it at that. I turn on two-pass with turbo second pass... but that's just me. For more information, visit the handbrake forum. Good luck.

Just doing that now! I'll let this thread get back on topic :cool:
 
I'm itching to get a Drobo. I'm a newb at this networking though, I've got a D-Link D655 N Gigabit router. Will it work so that my 5 macs and 1 ATV plus 3 iphones can see the drobo? I read all 10 pages of this thread but only saw the airport extreme mentioned. What about that network adapter that drobo sells?
 
I'm itching to get a Drobo. I'm a newb at this networking though, I've got a D-Link D655 N Gigabit router. Will it work so that my 5 macs and 1 ATV plus 3 iphones can see the drobo? I read all 10 pages of this thread but only saw the airport extreme mentioned. What about that network adapter that drobo sells?


I think the DroboShare is the way to go for you. It would allow you to connect the Drobo to a LAN port on the D-Link. But Im not sure what you plan on seeing with the iPhone. Unless you mean using the Drobo to store your music and videos that you sync to the iPhone. And that it most certainly can do.
 
Since we've all discussed the benefits of the Drobo to death, I thought - in the interest of full disclosure - it might be a good idea to make a list of the potential negatives. I'll start.

1) Proprietary software. Drives used with Drobo can't be used in other devices without being erased completely.

2) If your Drobo dies, the only way to get the content back, is to buy another Drobo. (same reason as #1)

3) Single device, one outlet. To me, this would increase the likelihood of one electric surge taking out ALL of your data. However unlikely, it seems to me that having multiple devices, plugged into different surge protectors would give you more protection. When all of the data is DIRECTLY hardwired to the backup of that data, I'm sure you lose protection.

4) Expensive. As far as multi-bay RAID drives are concerned, the Drobo seems to be relatively inexpensive. Good bang for the buck. However, for someone upgrading from a simple 500GB external, it's quite the price shock.


Most of us here would like to own a Drobo, and many of us LUST after one... but it's good to remember the negatives of the device as well. If you have any more, feel free to post them.
 
1) Proprietary software. Drives used with Drobo can't be used in other devices without being erased completely.

fivepoint, you bring up a good point about the proprietary software. But if hooking up to an AEBS and formatting HFS+, isnt that a non-concern?
 
fivepoint, you bring up a good point about the proprietary software. But if hooking up to an AEBS and formatting HFS+, isnt that a non-concern?

No, as far as I know, it is a concern. Drobo saves data in a unique format which other devices can't read. You could probably "see" the data from another device, but it wouldn't know what to do with it.

As I understand it, only a Drobo can read data written by Drobo.
 
No, as far as I know, it is a concern. Drobo saves data in a unique format which other devices can't read. You could probably "see" the data from another device, but it wouldn't know what to do with it.

As I understand it, only a Drobo can read data written by Drobo.

I had a feeling. Talk about job and product security! Maybe Ill invest in another external just for back ups and keep that sucker at work.
 
Forget the Drobo!

I looked at the drobo long and hard. It seemed so cool.

My setup is fairly basic.

Mac Mini connected to 42" LCD and stereo.
1 Firewire Drive/Hub
1 Calavry 1TB RAID USB. I have this mirrored so it's effectively 500GB.
1 USB printer (whole printer sharing in leopard is a different thread)

Here's a link at newegg for the Calavry drives. This cost about 220.00 when I got it at Christmas time. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822101088

I'm getting Powertunes to round out the solution since my wife and I both have iphones she doesn't want all of my crap on her phone but we still sync and use the same itunes account.

This year I'll be upgrading to a bigger drive as we've already filled it with all of our media and rsync over sftp to my remote drive is painfully painfully slow.
 
is it not very very obvious what the attractions of drobo are? anyone who spends 5 mins looking into it would see. They've got a really good video on their site . Check it out and all shall be revealed...

Yes, but if you look at the posters subject it says "Forget the Drobo!" Then he starts off with what I quoted, but never says why he chose against the Drobo. He actually chose Cavalry external HDDs, but never said why he chose that route. Read carefully and all shall be revealed . . .
 
My expanding library

I have a Highpoint RocketRaid 2322 in my Mac Pro going thru mini SAS connectors to an 8 bay enclosure. It is set up with a Raid 50 yielding 5.46 TB.
It is only for iTunes. and feeding my 8GB apple Tv. :cool:
 

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Anyone know if and when appleTV is going to play dts sound of VIDEO_TS folders? This seems to be a no-go for a lot of potential buyers (me included).
 
I have a Highpoint RocketRaid 2322 in my Mac Pro going thru mini SAS connectors to an 8 bay enclosure. It is set up with a Raid 50 yielding 5.46 TB.
It is only for iTunes. and feeding my 8GB apple Tv. :cool:

That is a TON of storage! Wow!




Anyone know if and when appleTV is going to play dts sound of VIDEO_TS folders? This seems to be a no-go for a lot of potential buyers (me included).

AppleTV already plays Surround Sound. Handbrake can be used to rip 5.1 audio from the original DVD.
 
AppleTV already plays Surround Sound. Handbrake can be used to rip 5.1 audio from the original DVD.
I know that and I know how to convert but my question was "when appleTV is going to play DTS sound" directly?! Frankly, only VLC is able to play DTS directly on Mac OS X which is a showstoper for Frontrow and AppleTV for *all* high-end users going to win-based HTPCs. Highly appreciated that Frontrow plays now VIDEO_TS directly, but without DTS support this is kind of half of the game. And I don't want to talk about playback support for commercial bluray...
 
No, as far as I know, it is a concern. Drobo saves data in a unique format which other devices can't read. You could probably "see" the data from another device, but it wouldn't know what to do with it.

As I understand it, only a Drobo can read data written by Drobo.

I think you might find this same limitation with many other RAID devices.
 
Home storage setup

As I find myself entering the Apple video world, my hard drive storage requirements seem to be increasing dramatically. MP3's are one thing, but MP4's are wholely something else. Especially if you are thinking about putting an entire season of Alias or Battlestar Galactica in your library.

Looking at this from the perspective of a "typical" home user, I find that my 230GB hard drive will be sufficient for the near-term, but not so long-term. Fortunately, I am planning on getting a new computer next year, so I can solve my storage issues then.

OK, now the question at hand, what is a reasonable configuration for typical home use? My requirements are going to be something along the following lines:

1. Desktop computer will be an iMac
2. Need a simple, reasonable backup strategy
3. Want to make sure my Apple TV has ample local storage so I don't have to have the desktop on all the time.

OK, solution is fairly simple.

Desktop - buy the next to bottom iMac in the line next year when it becomes available. Consider either getting a 1TB option (hope it will be an option then) or alternately, get the authorized Apple dealer to replace the small hard drive with a larger one, thus saving the warranty. Store everything on the local drive for simplicity sake. That will be about $1500.

Backup strategy - clearly use Time Machine, why not? With an external hard drive. Desired option is a USB or Firewire RAID system which will give me some redundancy on the backup incase of drive failure. Not the cheapest solution, but gives me access to plenty of storage space. Continue to use my USB hard drives for TM backup until I can make this purchase. I think I can get away with a pair of 1TB drives and a FW/USB RAID system for $450. Perhaps by this time next year, I can get a pair of 1.5TB drives at that price point?

Apple TV - upgrade the ATV internal hard drive to 250GB. Dump all my music and a bunch of movies down there so I won't have to do too much streaming. I can get the 250GB drive and extra cable for about $100.

The challenge/plan here is that I end up have a single master copy of everything on my iMac - the center of my digital universe. The other devices (iPhone, ATV, iPod, etc.) have their own local storage, but are dependencies of your desktop. Hence, I have to concentrate a lot of storage at the desktop and have a reasonable backup system as well. I assume some risk with less frequent off-site backup.

None of this counts the old iMac which the kids will be using. Fortunately for them, I will strip it of material and give them a small USB drive for backup. Once they start building their own libraries, then their storage problems will be their own!

Hard drive manufacturers have to be loving Apple right now. They can sell me something like five or six drives to meet my needs (which aren't through the roof). :)

Other than a large NAS that everyone can share (which I could transition to with an AEBS in future), see any issues with this setup?
 
I ordered my drobo and four 500gb drives this afternoon. I just started Handbraking my dvd collection (bout 600) a few days ago. I've gained alot of knowledge from this and other threads and I just wanted to say thanks.
 
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