Switching from iPhone5 to Samsung Galaxy SG5

[MRU]

Seems like I am going have to point this out again. If you are worried or have concerns or need a business / corporate environment for safety....




USE KNOX

Then download your software from the 'vetted' and 'approved/tested' Knox Store in the Knox environment / container

Secure...



Use the software that actually comes on the S5 and is designed for Security & corporate environments ......

Using a third party vendor over the one that is actually built in is only opening a can of worms further, and compromising the whole point of security and secure environments.


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And for other folks on this fora, please stop trolling or spreading misinformation ( scare mongering / posting only partial info to further your own personal agendas. ) There is a line between posting concerns and posting nonsense, and this thread has been a perfect example of that line being crossed .....

 

[jrswizzle]

I honestly feel that the love/hate thing with Touchwiz is completely overblown. It's not that bad, it works and it works well. The great thing about Android is that if you don't like it you can always use a stock Google launcher a change up your device. I've used every iPhone since the 3GS and I've slowly evolved into a Samsung (not even Android as much) guy. I will be getting the S5 and am looking forward to it.

Good luck with it. My biggest piece of advice is the give it more than a week. The transition from iOS to Android takes time to get used to. Literally I think 3 weeks is about how long it takes for you to completely get used to all of the customizing and all of the features a Samsung phone has to offer. It's not like picking up an iPhone and getting it 2 days later so just be patient and enjoy it!

When you have to say "it's not that bad", it is......

I liked pretty much everything about the hardware of my GS4. TouchWiz just absolutely blew. And of course, all those "wonderful" little "features" Samsung markets so heavily are all part of that bloated software mess.

But, try it out! And good luck! I went through the HTC One, GS4, Nexus 5 and Moto G last year and liked different things about all of them. The One was my favorite tbh with the Nexus 5 coming in a close second.

But at the end of the day, I most of my friends and family are on iOS devices and I'm an ecosystem guy. So I went back to the iPhone and haven't looked back.

 

[rockitdog]

When you have to say "it's not that bad", it is......

I liked pretty much everything about the hardware of my GS4. TouchWiz just absolutely blew. And of course, all those "wonderful" little "features" Samsung markets so heavily are all part of that bloated software mess.
But, try it out! And good luck! I went through the HTC One, GS4, Nexus 5 and Moto G last year and liked different things about all of them. The One was my favorite tbh with the Nexus 5 coming in a close second.

But at the end of the day, I most of my friends and family are on iOS devices and I'm an ecosystem guy. So I went back to the iPhone and haven't looked back.

It's all a matter of opinion. I'll admit when the S4 came out, the OS was a laggy mess but it was vastly improved from the time it was launched to today in terms of lag and usability. I'll take touchwiz for HTC's sense and even pure stock Android too.

 

[jrswizzle]

It's all a matter of opinion. I'll admit when the S4 came out, the OS was a laggy mess but it was vastly improved from the time it was launched to today in terms of lag and usability. I'll take touchwiz for HTC's sense and even pure stock Android too.

Hmm, well to each his/her own. I actually liked Sense a lot - minimalist, not bloated and the few things it offered I liked. Only thing that killed the One for me was the sub-par camera.

 

[blairh]

Thanks!

Quick question...one of the features i liked about iOS is that there was a gesture where you can swipe the screen to go back or forward web pages. Is that gesture available at all anywhere with Android?

Yes. I use it daily with the 'Habit' browser. The setting is called 'flick' and can be found in Settings-Operations-Flick. You set it to flick left (forward) and flick right (back). I find it works better than iOS because you don't need to pull from the edge of the page. Anywhere on the screen will do.

If SD expansion isn't a must for you, I strongly recommend the Nexus 5. Plus AT&T credits you $15 a month on their mobile share plans if you aren't under contract. My current plan is unlimited talk/text + 2 GB of data for $65, before tax and surcharges.

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

When you have to say "it's not that bad", it is......

I liked pretty much everything about the hardware of my GS4. TouchWiz just absolutely blew. And of course, all those "wonderful" little "features" Samsung markets so heavily are all part of that bloated software mess.

But, try it out! And good luck! I went through the HTC One, GS4, Nexus 5 and Moto G last year and liked different things about all of them. The One was my favorite tbh with the Nexus 5 coming in a close second.

But at the end of the day, I most of my friends and family are on iOS devices and I'm an ecosystem guy. So I went back to the iPhone and haven't looked back.

I've felt the same way about TouchWiz up until now. The latest update looks very good. I like the flat look better than the equivelant stock apps. Email and Calendar look a lot better than stock, in my opinion.

Every time I try an Android phone I go back to iPhone. I have the 5S now. My biggest concern with the S5 is size. I'll probably pass on it just because of that. I'd really like to find an Android phone I could stick with because there are a lot of features that I like better than iOS. If only someone would release a "mini" Android phone that doesn't have a poor screen, too little RAM, a bad camera, or a slow processor.

 

[blairh]

I have a Nexus 5 with vanilla Android, no custom ROMs, no gravity box, and my fiances iPhone 5 feels significantly faster.

As a former iPhone 5 user I have no idea how you can state this. Both phones are fast and fluid.

OP just want to echo another comment in this thread. Upload your contacts to Google Contacts and your music to Google Music. It will make your transition that much more smoother. Plus you'll never need to use iTunes again for music once you have you collection uploaded to Google Music.

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

As a former iPhone 5 user I have no idea how you can state this. Both phones are fast and fluid.

I felt the same way going from the Nexus 5 back to my iPhone 5. I'm not saying that it is faster in reality, just that the iPhone 5 felt faster to me.

 

[rockitdog]

I felt the same way going from the Nexus 5 back to my iPhone 5. I'm not saying that it is faster in reality, just that the iPhone 5 felt faster to me.

IMO, it's not a speed thing but it's a fluidity thing that makes the iPhone feel faster. The two operating systems just move and transition differently. Apple seems to animate and transition better, IMO.

But for me, all of the fluidity and transitions don't make up for the lack of features and tiny screen size on the iPhone to me.

 

[appledes7]

As a former iPhone 5 user I have no idea how you can state this. Both phones are fast and fluid.

OP just want to echo another comment in this thread. Upload your contacts to Google Contacts and your music to Google Music. It will make your transition that much more smoother. Plus you'll never need to use iTunes again for music once you have you collection uploaded to Google Music.

I felt the same way going from the Nexus 5 back to my iPhone 5. I'm not saying that it is faster in reality, just that the iPhone 5 felt faster to me.

I don't know what it is, but iOS just feels like it reacts to user input much quicker than Android.

With something as simple as rapidly scrolling up and down in chrome just feels like it is lagging a little more behind my finger compared to iOS. There are other aspects that feel more clunky, but this is one of the bigger ones to me.

 

[blairh]

I don't know what it is, but iOS just feels like it reacts to user input much quicker than Android.

With something as simple as rapidly scrolling up and down in chrome just feels like it is lagging a little more behind my finger compared to iOS. There are other aspects that feel more clunky, but this is one of the bigger ones to me.

I don't use Chrome on Android so I can't comment on this. Scrolling with Habit browser is fluid. I can actually reach the bottom of a page faster with a swipe versus iOS. I honestly don't see any element of using the N5 where it lags compared to my previous iPhone's.

 

[appledes7]

I don't use Chrome on Android so I can't comment on this. Scrolling with Habit browser is fluid. I can actually reach the bottom of a page faster with a swipe versus iOS. I honestly don't see any element of using the N5 where it lags compared to my previous iPhone's.

I find the navigation buttons to lag at times as well. Also, sometimes hitting the recents button takes a while to pull up my recent apps, but on my fiances iPhone 5, it is much quicker (although on both devices, once you open up your recent apps, going into it a second time is even quicker). Opening up the camera app also takes a little longer on my Nexus 5.

Going to the home screen from an app ultimately takes about the same time on both devices, but the key difference here is how quick it feels. Here is an example I just shot:

I have the file open in QuickTime right now displaying frame numbers. At frame 22 I hit the Chrome icon, the animation to actually open the app doesn't start until frame 33. Over 1/3rd of a second wasted with the phone doing absolutely nothing. On frame 60 I tap the home button. You can see the home button slightly light up and you can hear the sound before anything happens. The animation starts at frame 85. At 29 fps, that is nearly a full second of the phone sitting there doing nothing. The animation ends at frame 92. And this is with Chrome already being in my recent apps, so the OS isn't loading the app from scratch. Chrome is actually one of the faster apps. Google Maps, Play Music, Camera, YouTube, and Play Store can all take just as long if not longer.

Some might argue that animations feel so slow on iOS. And I agree to some extent. I am not here to debate whether or not iOS animation speed is too slow or too fast. I am showing here that despite Androids animations clearly being quicker, it doesn't feel as fluid because it takes so long for them to even start.

Now this lag isn't constrained to just opening up and closing an app, although that is one of the most common things done on a phone. This lag also happens when pressing buttons inside apps. It also happens when from the lock screen swiping up to get to Google Now. With vibration turned on, I can feel exactly when the OS recognizes what I am trying to do, but there is still lag from when it actually begins the animation to go where I want.

Note, this is using the default launcher on my Nexus 5, but the same thing happens with Nova. In fact, with Nova I often get more lag swiping between home screens. Also, no custom ROM and no gravity box installed either.

As for your comment regarding not using Chrome, I do think part of it is Google's sheer lack of optimization. When I use Boat browser, scrolling speed feels smoother, much smoother than Chrome on Android, but still not as smooth as Chrome on iOS.

 

[blairh]

My apps close quicker when I hit my home button. Also I think you're a bit OCD about this. You're talking about a 1/3 of a second. My guess is that this won't be noticed by many or it won't bother them, if they have the same feelings/experience. Everything I try to do with my N5 is super fast and responsive. And I've used an iPhone 3G, 4, and 5 for long periods of time.

 

[appledes7]

You're talking about a 1/3 of a second.

Frame 60 to 85 is not 1/3rd of a second. You must have not completely read my point.

Also, I disagree with you that this is something most people won't see. You can clearly see the home button light up and hear the button sound go all the way through while the phone still hasn't changed. Let me break down exactly what happens for you:

User presses the home button:
Phone recognizes touch input from user
Run command to turn home button circle white for a split second
Run command to play touch sound for a split second
Actually do what the user wanted

All of this is clearly visible in the video.

You can argue that many people might not see it. You can argue that all you want, I still disagree. But more so than what people can visible see, it is what people feel as they use their device. You might not always see dropped frames in an animation, but you are more likely to feel the "clunkiness" of it. I am actually getting my M.F.A. in 3D modeling, rigging, and animation. So I know because of that, I can probably notice these things more easily than others because those smaller things are what I am trained to look for. At the same time, I also know that a dropped frame or two might seem like it is unnoticed, but the viewer can feel that something is off. When talking to professional animators, all the time you will hear them say "it feels a little clunky right here" as opposed to "it looks a little clunky right here."

 

[mclld]

Man I couldnt imagine being that ocd, life would be miserable

 

[appledes7]

Man I couldnt imagine being that ocd, life would be miserable

I couldn't imagine thinking almost a full second of lag is actually "smooth." Life would be miserable

 

[mclld]

No need to get bumhurt, I didnt say anything about it being smooth my goodness, people go crazy with this stuff

 

[appledes7]

people go crazy with this stuff

Says the person who essentially called my life miserable

 

[mclld]

I personally think being ocd about such small stuff would make for miserable life, the smallest things would bug you

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

You might not always see dropped frames in an animation, but you are more likely to feel the "clunkiness" of it.

While it isn't a huge deal that would cause me to not buy a phone because of it, it is a part of the experience of using a phone. When I go from my iPhone to an Android device it feels different. Whether that is because of animations or whatever I don't know, but my experience is that the iPhone feels faster at things such as switching apps and deleting emails. Even a fraction of a second difference is a different experience.

 

[appledes7]

I personally think being ocd about such small stuff would make for miserable life, the smallest things would bug you

I don't consider myself OCD. But one could make the argument that if you are able to notice the small things that annoy you, you would also be more likely to notice the small things that are really great about life

While it isn't a huge deal that would cause me to not buy a phone because of it, it is a part of the experience of using a phone. When I go from my iPhone to an Android device it feels different. Whether that is because of animations or whatever I don't know, but my experience is that the iPhone feels faster at things such as switching apps and deleting emails. Even a fraction of a second difference is a different experience.

I totally agree, this isn't a dealbreaker for me that would make me switch to a phone with a completely different OS. But that should be pretty obvious since I no longer own a single iOS device

 

[blairh]

Frame 60 to 85 is not 1/3rd of a second. You must have not completely read my point.

Also, I disagree with you that this is something most people won't see. You can clearly see the home button light up and hear the button sound go all the way through while the phone still hasn't changed. Let me break down exactly what happens for you:

User presses the home button:
Phone recognizes touch input from user
Run command to turn home button circle white for a split second
Run command to play touch sound for a split second
Actually do what the user wanted

All of this is clearly visible in the video.

You can argue that many people might not see it. You can argue that all you want, I still disagree. But more so than what people can visible see, it is what people feel as they use their device. You might not always see dropped frames in an animation, but you are more likely to feel the "clunkiness" of it. I am actually getting my M.F.A. in 3D modeling, rigging, and animation. So I know because of that, I can probably notice these things more easily than others because those smaller things are what I am trained to look for. At the same time, I also know that a dropped frame or two might seem like it is unnoticed, but the viewer can feel that something is off. When talking to professional animators, all the time you will hear them say "it feels a little clunky right here" as opposed to "it looks a little clunky right here."

Apps close faster on my N5 than what I see in your video. And I think most consumers wouldn't feel negative towards what I'm seeing in your vid. That's just my opinion.

 

[appledes7]

Apps close faster on my N5 than what I see in your video. And I think most consumers wouldn't feel negative towards what I'm seeing in your vid. That's just my opinion.

Apps are just as laggy on my Nexus 4 and 2013 Nexus 7. And for the short time I had a Moto X, it was just as bad.

Android still has a reputation of being more laggy than iOS. So I disagree with you and I think subtle lag like this is still known to be associated with Android.

 

[blairh]

Apps are just as laggy on my Nexus 4 and 2013 Nexus 7. And for the short time I had a Moto X, it was just as bad.

Android still has a reputation of being more laggy than iOS. So I disagree with you and I think subtle lag like this is still known to be associated with Android.

I see no signs of lag on my N5. Can't speak for other Android models.

 

[Dontazemebro]

I find the navigation buttons to lag at times as well. Also, sometimes hitting the recents button takes a while to pull up my recent apps, but on my fiances iPhone 5, it is much quicker (although on both devices, once you open up your recent apps, going into it a second time is even quicker). Opening up the camera app also takes a little longer on my Nexus 5.

Going to the home screen from an app ultimately takes about the same time on both devices, but the key difference here is how quick it feels. Here is an example I just shot:

I have the file open in QuickTime right now displaying frame numbers. At frame 22 I hit the Chrome icon, the animation to actually open the app doesn't start until frame 33. Over 1/3rd of a second wasted with the phone doing absolutely nothing. On frame 60 I tap the home button. You can see the home button slightly light up and you can hear the sound before anything happens. The animation starts at frame 85. At 29 fps, that is nearly a full second of the phone sitting there doing nothing. The animation ends at frame 92. And this is with Chrome already being in my recent apps, so the OS isn't loading the app from scratch. Chrome is actually one of the faster apps. Google Maps, Play Music, Camera, YouTube, and Play Store can all take just as long if not longer.

Some might argue that animations feel so slow on iOS. And I agree to some extent. I am not here to debate whether or not iOS animation speed is too slow or too fast. I am showing here that despite Androids animations clearly being quicker, it doesn't feel as fluid because it takes so long for them to even start.

Now this lag isn't constrained to just opening up and closing an app, although that is one of the most common things done on a phone. This lag also happens when pressing buttons inside apps. It also happens when from the lock screen swiping up to get to Google Now. With vibration turned on, I can feel exactly when the OS recognizes what I am trying to do, but there is still lag from when it actually begins the animation to go where I want.

Note, this is using the default launcher on my Nexus 5, but the same thing happens with Nova. In fact, with Nova I often get more lag swiping between home screens. Also, no custom ROM and no gravity box installed either.

As for your comment regarding not using Chrome, I do think part of it is Google's sheer lack of optimization. When I use Boat browser, scrolling speed feels smoother, much smoother than Chrome on Android, but still not as smooth as Chrome on iOS.

I believe that's because the iPhone 5 has a better touch latency than the Nexus 5 but there are android devices out there that score better than the iPhone like the Note 3 and HTC One M8.