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slu

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Watch out for friends still texting you from their iPhones, it'll go through as an iMessage to your iPad and you'll never see it on your Nexus 4.

Funny you say this as this happened to me almost immediately after I switched my Sim card. I'll have to keep an eye on that going forward.
 

bmac4

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Funny you say this as this happened to me almost immediately after I switched my Sim card. I'll have to keep an eye on that going forward.

When I switched I had to restore my setting on both my iPhone and iPad to get it to work.
 

sentinelsx

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Load Paranoid Android 3+ ROM on it. The developer has done an amazing job. It has taken the top spot from AOKP when it comes to the ROMs i would want to flash on my android phone.
 

jrswizzle

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When I switched I had to restore my setting on both my iPhone and iPad to get it to work.

By the way - got my playlists on there. I guess I set it up differently at first.

Thanks for the tip!

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How is Falcon Pro?? Ive been using Plume but i have heard good things about Falcon pro.


EDIT: I just downloaded Falcon Pro and i have already uninstalled Plume lol!!! Finally a good Android equivalent of Tweetbot.

Ya I think its great - have never used anything but the regular twitter app on my iPhone, but was recommended Falcon Pro and I like the UI. The widget is very robust as well.
 

torana355

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Ya I think its great - have never used anything but the regular twitter app on my iPhone, but was recommended Falcon Pro and I like the UI. The widget is very robust as well.
Yeah Tweetbot on iOS is amazing!!! A good twitter client was the only thing i was really missing on Android and i think Falcon Pro has filled that void :D
 

Tinmania

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This is the way I got my playlists up to Google from iTunes.

Click on Music Manager on computer (looks like headphones in top bar on computer)
Click on Preferences
On the Upload page, select the radio button for "by Playlist" and your playlists will appear.
Select the playlists and voila, songs and playlists uploaded.


Not sure if that will work after the initial uploads but I don't see why it wouldn't. If I add songs to playlists when I buy them new Google sees them and updates the Google Music/Play playlists

Hope that helps.

I don't have that selected and have all my playlists available in google music everywhere--all from my iTunes library. I'm pretty sure the purpose of that option is if you want to limit your uploads to certain playlists. If you don't choose that it will do them all.



Michael
 

bmac4

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By the way - got my playlists on there. I guess I set it up differently at first.

Thanks for the tip!

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Ya I think its great - have never used anything but the regular twitter app on my iPhone, but was recommended Falcon Pro and I like the UI. The widget is very robust as well.

Sure no problem glad I could help
 

slu

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More observations...

So I just typed a big response that got lost by my stupid work computer with IE, so I will try again.

Some further observations after using the phone last night and this morning, in no particluar order:

1. Lack of a hardware mute switch is a minor annoyance.

2. As was stated previously in the thread, the email experience is far superior on iOS. Having to pan and scan as many emails as I have had to thus far is frankly unacceptable. The fact that there is no image scaling is unaccpetable. There must be a third party alternative, but I have yet to find one.

3. Clock app destroys iOS clock app. Having separate alarm volume is wonderful. Having the phone vibrate on everything but alarm is also great. Being able to customize the snooze time is also great.

4. Having the speaker on the back of the phone is very, very dumb.

5. Chrome is not great. Tap to zoom doesn't work as well as on iOS and new pages sometimes seem to load already zoomed in. I want the full page to load and I'll decide what to zoom in on. It takes one too many clicks to get to bookmarks, but this is a problem with Chrome on iOS as well. I will be looking into 3rd party browsers. Any suggestions?

6. Phone speed and display are still impressive. HSPA+ on this phone is a big upgrade from regular 3G on my iPhone 4.

7. I have only downloaded a few apps thus far and while I was able to get Andriod versions of all my major apps so far, app quality is worse than iOS. Graphics on some apps can be "fuzzy", UIs are inconsistent, some apps just have issues (i.e. the Speetest.net app always thinks I am Indiana for some reason), but to be honest I expected this. While this has been annoying, I wouldn't call it a major issue yet.

8. I have tried several widgets. A couple are useful, but they largely seem like a neat gimmick only.

9. Voice Search/Google Now work great.

10. Google Voice App and Google Voice Integration is better, as expected.

11. Not being able to tap to scroll to the top of a webpage or app is a major annoyance. And from my research, this is just something I have to live with.

12. I don't get the camera hate. Seems fine to me. Stock editing options are limited, but they are on iOS as well. I used Snapseed on iOS and am planning to try it on Android.

13. Still dislike the stock messaging app.

13. Notifcations are different, but I wouldn't say worse. I do wish I could control notifcation settings for apps in a central place like I can in iOS though.

14. Editing contacts is a mess. Two clicks to get to edit mode from the contact? Then if they don't have a phone number and only an email address, I have to scroll down and select "Add another field", then pick the field, then add the data? Crazy.

14. I have just scratched the surface on UI customization, so not much to comment on there.

Basically, I am doing OK so far. The email thing is really my main problem, and it is unbelievable this is considered acceptable. But all the other things combined do worry me. Not totally sure yet if Android is right for me.
 

bmac4

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So I just typed a big response that got lost by my stupid work computer with IE, so I will try again.

Some further observations after using the phone last night and this morning, in no particluar order:

1. Lack of a hardware mute switch is a minor annoyance.

2. As was stated previously in the thread, the email experience is far superior on iOS. Having to pan and scan as many emails as I have had to thus far is frankly unacceptable. The fact that there is no image scaling is unaccpetable. There must be a third party alternative, but I have yet to find one.

3. Clock app destroys iOS clock app. Having separate alarm volume is wonderful. Having the phone vibrate on everything but alarm is also great. Being able to customize the snooze time is also great.

4. Having the speaker on the back of the phone is very, very dumb.

5. Chrome is not great. Tap to zoom doesn't work as well as on iOS and new pages sometimes seem to load already zoomed in. I want the full page to load and I'll decide what to zoom in on. It takes one too many clicks to get to bookmarks, but this is a problem with Chrome on iOS as well. I will be looking into 3rd party browsers. Any suggestions?

6. Phone speed and display are still impressive. HSPA+ on this phone is a big upgrade from regular 3G on my iPhone 4.

7. I have only downloaded a few apps thus far and while I was able to get Andriod versions of all my major apps so far, app quality is worse than iOS. Graphics on some apps can be "fuzzy", UIs are inconsistent, some apps just have issues (i.e. the Speetest.net app always thinks I am Indiana for some reason), but to be honest I expected this. While this has been annoying, I wouldn't call it a major issue yet.

8. I have tried several widgets. A couple are useful, but they largely seem like a neat gimmick only.

9. Voice Search/Google Now work great.

10. Google Voice App and Google Voice Integration is better, as expected.

11. Not being able to tap to scroll to the top of a webpage or app is a major annoyance. And from my research, this is just something I have to live with.

12. I don't get the camera hate. Seems fine to me. Stock editing options are limited, but they are on iOS as well. I used Snapseed on iOS and am planning to try it on Android.

13. Still dislike the stock messaging app.

13. Notifcations are different, but I wouldn't say worse. I do wish I could control notifcation settings for apps in a central place like I can in iOS though.

14. Editing contacts is a mess. Two clicks to get to edit mode from the contact? Then if they don't have a phone number and only an email address, I have to scroll down and select "Add another field", then pick the field, then add the data? Crazy.

14. I have just scratched the surface on UI customization, so not much to comment on there.

Basically, I am doing OK so far. The email thing is really my main problem, and it is unbelievable this is considered acceptable. But all the other things combined do worry me. Not totally sure yet if Android is right for me.

The email thing. Are you using the gmail app or the stock email app?

It is funny some of the things you bring up that I never think of or use or for that matter care about. The touching at the top of the browser to go to the top was nice, but I got over that real quick. I think the longer you are with iOS or android the harder it gets to adjust to the other. When I had been on android for about 2 years and decided to try the iPhone 5. Man I thought a lot was dumb that iOS did, but after user it it just became normal. Just give it some time and you may start to like things better, but if you don't then iOS is the OS for you.
 
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slu

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The email thing. Are you using the gmail app or the stock email app?

Gmail. I have had several messages, most with images, that I have to pan and scan.

EDIT: In the Gmail app, there is "Auto-fit messages" option that I had not selected and it now works as I expected. Huge improvement for me.
 
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bmac4

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Gmail. I have had several messages, most with images, that I have to pan and scan.

I think you might be able to fix that with the stock email app, but I am not sure because I use the gmail app. Sorry I wish I knew more about it. I think jrswizzle knows a bit more about the stock email app.

Also I edited my previous post. Just a little encouragement to stick with it. If it does not work then at least you tried.
 

jrswizzle

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I think you might be able to fix that with the stock email app, but I am not sure because I use the gmail app. Sorry I wish I knew more about it. I think jrswizzle knows a bit more about the stock email app.

Also I edited my previous post. Just a little encouragement to stick with it. If it does not work then at least you tried.

The stock email app gives you a zoomed in look as well. I don't use the stock one anymore - K9 is my preference.

As far as I know, all the email clients on Android won't allow you to zoom all the way out to see the whole email....really quite annoying.
 

bmac4

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The stock email app gives you a zoomed in look as well. I don't use the stock one anymore - K9 is my preference.

As far as I know, all the email clients on Android won't allow you to zoom all the way out to see the whole email....really quite annoying.

How does iOS handle that I can't remember? Emails just are not a big deal to me cause I don't have that many.
 

slu

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Just found a setting the Gmail app called "Auto-fit messages" that was not selected! I am checking that to see if it helps. This would be a big win for me.

And I am certainly going to keep sticking with it. Mainly because of the speed and freedom of platform.

Thanks again for all you comments.

EDIT: This solved my problem, at least in the Gmail App! Woo Hoo!!
 

mattopotamus

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So I just typed a big response that got lost by my stupid work computer with IE, so I will try again.

Some further observations after using the phone last night and this morning, in no particluar order:

1. Lack of a hardware mute switch is a minor annoyance.

2. As was stated previously in the thread, the email experience is far superior on iOS. Having to pan and scan as many emails as I have had to thus far is frankly unacceptable. The fact that there is no image scaling is unaccpetable. There must be a third party alternative, but I have yet to find one.

3. Clock app destroys iOS clock app. Having separate alarm volume is wonderful. Having the phone vibrate on everything but alarm is also great. Being able to customize the snooze time is also great.

4. Having the speaker on the back of the phone is very, very dumb.

5. Chrome is not great. Tap to zoom doesn't work as well as on iOS and new pages sometimes seem to load already zoomed in. I want the full page to load and I'll decide what to zoom in on. It takes one too many clicks to get to bookmarks, but this is a problem with Chrome on iOS as well. I will be looking into 3rd party browsers. Any suggestions?

6. Phone speed and display are still impressive. HSPA+ on this phone is a big upgrade from regular 3G on my iPhone 4.

7. I have only downloaded a few apps thus far and while I was able to get Andriod versions of all my major apps so far, app quality is worse than iOS. Graphics on some apps can be "fuzzy", UIs are inconsistent, some apps just have issues (i.e. the Speetest.net app always thinks I am Indiana for some reason), but to be honest I expected this. While this has been annoying, I wouldn't call it a major issue yet.

8. I have tried several widgets. A couple are useful, but they largely seem like a neat gimmick only.

9. Voice Search/Google Now work great.

10. Google Voice App and Google Voice Integration is better, as expected.

11. Not being able to tap to scroll to the top of a webpage or app is a major annoyance. And from my research, this is just something I have to live with.

12. I don't get the camera hate. Seems fine to me. Stock editing options are limited, but they are on iOS as well. I used Snapseed on iOS and am planning to try it on Android.

13. Still dislike the stock messaging app.

13. Notifcations are different, but I wouldn't say worse. I do wish I could control notifcation settings for apps in a central place like I can in iOS though.

14. Editing contacts is a mess. Two clicks to get to edit mode from the contact? Then if they don't have a phone number and only an email address, I have to scroll down and select "Add another field", then pick the field, then add the data? Crazy.

14. I have just scratched the surface on UI customization, so not much to comment on there.

Basically, I am doing OK so far. The email thing is really my main problem, and it is unbelievable this is considered acceptable. But all the other things combined do worry me. Not totally sure yet if Android is right for me.

I miss tap to top, but a small fast flick actually scrolls really fast on android, so it makes up for it. I agree with most of the things you said. A lot of the contact editing or copy/paste feels like a chore on android still. IOS really has phenomenal editing tools for text. I don't have a problem with the camera quality, just the shutter speed and if someone is moving it is really bad.

My biggest complaint is toggling bluetooth off within certain apps. It is not an option as far as I can tell. For example, with maps on IOS I use to click the little bluetooth icon in the bottom right and change it to my phone speakers when driving. I would still be connected to my cars bluetooth just changed the sound source. I can do this with phone calls, but not the map app on android. I have to actually disconnect from bluetooth to change the sound source within the maps app. I hope that makes sense.

if this phone was connected to bluetooth, the bluetooth icon would be in the bottom right to change audio sources.
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tallchris

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Glad I found this thread, as I was literally debating whether to give the Nexus 4 a go. I currently have a iPhone 4. Can't really afford a iPhone 5 so was tempted by the Nexus.

My questions, for anyone kind enough to answer them.

1. Alot of talk about email. I have to use a windows live account, anyone have any experience using one with the Nexus.

2. I use 'contacts' to keep my contacts synced across alot devices (I've got an iMac and an air). Any idea how to keep these in-sync with an Android device?
 

jrswizzle

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2. I use 'contacts' to keep my contacts synced across alot devices (I've got an iMac and an air). Any idea how to keep these in-sync with an Android device?

I use CardDav Sync - Nexus 4 is kept in sync with all my Apple devices (iMac, iP5, iPad mini).

It only cost a couple bucks.
 

bmac4

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I use CardDav Sync - Nexus 4 is kept in sync with all my Apple devices (iMac, iP5, iPad mini).

It only cost a couple bucks.

Does it drain your battery faster to have your exchange email synced to the stock email app? On my nexus s it seemed to just a bit. On my galaxy nexus not so much.
 

Paradoxally

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As for Android, you can fix annoyance 13. by installing Light Flow. It's a marvelous app that allows you to customize practically notifications for every app you have (the most common and more are supported). Sounds, vibration, LED light, etc...you can also turn those notifications off.

It's annoying that you need a 3rd party app to do some stuff you can do on iOS, but still...it's Android. iOS only annoys me with the toggle stuff, which can be fixed easily (NCSettings).
 

bmac4

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As for Android, you can fix annoyance 13. by installing Light Flow. It's a marvelous app that allows you to customize practically notifications for every app you have (the most common and more are supported). Sounds, vibration, LED light, etc...you can also turn those notifications off.

It's annoying that you need a 3rd party app to do some stuff you can do on iOS, but still...it's Android. iOS only annoys me with the toggle stuff, which can be fixed easily (NCSettings).

You have to jailbreak to do that.
 

Tinmania

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1. Alot of talk about email. I have to use a windows live account, anyone have any experience using one with the Nexus.
There is actually a (new?) Microsoft Outlook.com app as well as an older Hotmail app. Have not used either but am going to try now. At first glance seems the latter is better but I would imagine that is because the former has only been out for a week.



Michael
 
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