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torana355

macrumors 68040
Dec 8, 2009
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WhatsApp doesn’t work with iPads and if you have a tablet an iPad is really the only option worth having. Even on laptops if you don’t use it often you have to set it up again...I use WhatsApp for pics but that’s it these days. Most I text use iMessage now. Apple would be fools to let iMessage go to other platforms as they know for some iMessage is the difference from staying or leaving Apple.
I think we are talking about different things, yes Whatsapp is for phones only but it is true cross platform and imo a messaging service is useless if it can only be used on one platform as not everyone uses one type of phone. It's why even people who own an iPhone that I know don't use iMessage and still use what'sapp and it's why iMessage is imo massively overrated.
 

yui4

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May 26, 2011
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I think we are talking about different things, yes Whatsapp is for phones only but it is true cross platform and imo a messaging service is useless if it can only be used on one platform as not everyone uses one type of phone. It's why even people who own an iPhone that I know don't use iMessage and still use what'sapp and it's why iMessage is imo massively overrated.
Even when I owned an iphone and most of my friends / family still do, besides my parents, literally everybody, uses whatsapp and never imessage.

It's at the stage wherein it's pointless having the text app on the front page of the phone as it's so rarely used.

It's great for me to switch platforms as and when I suit, and not be stuck in the 'blue bubble' trap.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
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I use a Note 10+. For the finger print sensor it would “feel” faster if you just do a quick tap on it instead of holding it. I think it takes a quick scan, the delay is in the processing and animation.

THIS!!!! The finger sensor is not a button, but people treat it like such.
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Even when I owned an iphone and most of my friends / family still do, besides my parents, literally everybody, uses whatsapp and never imessage.

It's at the stage wherein it's pointless having the text app on the front page of the phone as it's so rarely used.

It's great for me to switch platforms as and when I suit, and not be stuck in the 'blue bubble' trap.

Myself and most people I know treat iMessage like a normal SMS/MMS app, that's on steroids. Nobody in my social or business circle does group chats on iMessage, or shares sensitive material.

However, I do sometimes treat iMessage like a one on one messenger when I'm using my MBP or iPad. But that's usually with a family member or close friend.
 
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SteveJUAE

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WhatsApp doesn’t work with iPads and if you have a tablet an iPad is really the only option worth having. Even on laptops if you don’t use it often you have to set it up again...I use WhatsApp for pics but that’s it these days. Most I text use iMessage now. Apple would be fools to let iMessage go to other platforms as they know for some iMessage is the difference from staying or leaving Apple.
If you only have an Ipad the most complete solution is Skype which is on Android (6.0+), iOS, Windows, Mac, Linux, Web, and Skype for Windows 10 and you do not even need an Ipad with LTE

Whatsapp if not used for a while does not need to be re-set up just your password or bar-code scanned

SMS is dying and the once unique offerings of Imessage are now a legacy, used mainly in one or 2 countries and I understand FBM still is more popular in US

The biggest elephant in the room with Ipad even with LTE is you cant be mobile and use an Apple watch

However we are digressing from OP original post :)
 

mi7chy

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2014
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Shanghaichica

macrumors G5
Apr 8, 2013
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If you only have an Ipad the most complete solution is Skype which is on Android (6.0+), iOS, Windows, Mac, Linux, Web, and Skype for Windows 10 and you do not even need an Ipad with LTE

Whatsapp if not used for a while does not need to be re-set up just your password or bar-code scanned

SMS is dying and the once unique offerings of Imessage are now a legacy, used mainly in one or 2 countries and I understand FBM still is more popular in US

The biggest elephant in the room with Ipad even with LTE is you cant be mobile and use an Apple watch

However we are digressing from OP original post :)
You can get third party apps for WhatsApp that work on the iPad.
 

yui4

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May 26, 2011
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I think you will come running back. Switching just because you had iPhone for a while really is the wrong reason. Try out a Samsung phone first before selling.
The only problem with keeping hold of the iphone is that you never really give the other phone a fair go. It's too easy to revert to what is your comfort zone. If that makes sense?

That has always been my case until I sold the iphone.
 

koigirl

macrumors 6502a
Jul 29, 2011
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Raleigh, NC
You definitely have to give it two weeks, esp the first time you switch from iOS to Samsung. It feels foreign and frustrating at first but you quickly find all the things you can do with Android that are not possible with iOS. I've gone back and forth once (first to Note 8, back to XR, then to Note 10+). When I went back to iOS, I missed many little subtle software features with Android and felt frustrated by the static icons, esp navigating b/w apps. I missed the back button, app switcher, and being able to run two apps simultaneously (you will love Google Map navigation which runs in a small window inside whatever you're doing, also being able to respond to messages in small popup). Dismissing notifications and closing apps is so efficient. I also love the way it tracks battery usage and notifies me if an app is burning battery. The AOD is awesome and I can arrange my home screen however I want it.

I'm not someone who uses more than one phone or wants to be constantly switching and trying out new phones although I enjoy reading about others' adventures here. My Note 10+ has been everything and more I want a smartphone to be and I am totally satisfied with it. I like Apple products and still use an iPad Pro for media consumption but after switching over from Mac to a Surface Pro and from iPhone to Samsung, I can say I am glad to feel freed from the walled garden. I wouldn't say I will never return to an iPhone and Mac combo but they are going to have to make their hardware more competitive and affordable before I do so. I hope you enjoy your new phones. Please give yourself more than a couple of days to truly understand and enjoy the new operating system. It truly takes a couple of weeks.
 

AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
12,699
10,567
Austin, TX
Agreed with the "give it a try" sentiment.

After 2 weeks, when the return policy is up, switching back to iPhone could cause a great deal of hurt. I have done it too many times and have learned by lesson.

Know your Samsung device's return policy, and try to shape your decision a couple of days before the policy expires.
 
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Zaft

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Jun 16, 2009
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I’m sure I could use android but it’s the little things that would take me back to IOS.

one example is how 2 factor security codes are automatically filled/suggested without having to copy and Paste.
 

bluewomble88

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Oct 9, 2009
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You definitely have to give it two weeks, esp the first time you switch from iOS to Samsung. It feels foreign and frustrating at first but you quickly find all the things you can do with Android that are not possible with iOS. I've gone back and forth once (first to Note 8, back to XR, then to Note 10+). When I went back to iOS, I missed many little subtle software features with Android and felt frustrated by the static icons, esp navigating b/w apps. I missed the back button, app switcher, and being able to run two apps simultaneously (you will love Google Map navigation which runs in a small window inside whatever you're doing, also being able to respond to messages in small popup). Dismissing notifications and closing apps is so efficient. I also love the way it tracks battery usage and notifies me if an app is burning battery. The AOD is awesome and I can arrange my home screen however I want it.

I'm not someone who uses more than one phone or wants to be constantly switching and trying out new phones although I enjoy reading about others' adventures here. My Note 10+ has been everything and more I want a smartphone to be and I am totally satisfied with it. I like Apple products and still use an iPad Pro for media consumption but after switching over from Mac to a Surface Pro and from iPhone to Samsung, I can say I am glad to feel freed from the walled garden. I wouldn't say I will never return to an iPhone and Mac combo but they are going to have to make their hardware more competitive and affordable before I do so. I hope you enjoy your new phones. Please give yourself more than a couple of days to truly understand and enjoy the new operating system. It truly takes a couple of weeks.

Nonsense. When I switched from my iPhone 6s to the Samsung S7, I was converted in a single afternoon and haven't looked back since. It was like switching a one-bedroom flat without a garden to a 4-bedroom detached property with an acre of land. The sense of freedom was immense.
 

SteveJUAE

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Aug 14, 2015
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Land of Smiles
I’m sure I could use android but it’s the little things that would take me back to IOS.

one example is how 2 factor security codes are automatically filled/suggested without having to copy and Paste.
Not sure I am reading this correctly :)

Sure Apple make the 2 factor authorization for Android and W10 devices accessing your Apple account less automated, but they would LOL

But other apps requiring 2 factor are automated and some even auto read sms codes sent etc

Surely it varies app to app, OTP, finger print scan , CC 3 digit code etc ?
 

Zaft

macrumors 601
Jun 16, 2009
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Brooklyn, NY
Not sure I am reading this correctly :)

Sure Apple make the 2 factor authorization for Android and W10 devices accessing your Apple account less automated, but they would LOL

But other apps requiring 2 factor are automated and some even auto read sms codes sent etc

Surely it varies app to app, OTP, finger print scan , CC 3 digit code etc ?
It’s basically when you get an SMS code and auto fills. I don’t have to go back to messages and copy and paste.
 

M5RahuL

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Aug 1, 2009
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While I’ve been using both platforms for many years, iOS remains to be my preference.

One of *my* pet peeves with Android is how even if you block a number, it’s VM will show up and bug ya! With iOS, once you block a number, the VM is also blocked!

One major annoyance with iOS for me ( there are a few lol ) is no split screen functionality !!
 
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mi7chy

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2014
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One of *my* pet peeves with Android is how even if you block a number, it’s VM will show up and bug ya! With iOS, once you block a number, the VM is also blocked!

Hangouts with Google Voice # has been doing that forever. Additionally, once blocked the caller gets the recording "this number is no longer in service" like a real disconnected line. Furthermore, since your GV# isn't tied to a carrier it's automatically portable so it can be used on any carrier and even WIFI without plan, supports multi-line, make calls/SMS/check voicemail from desktop browser, safer SMS MFA, etc. iOS way is mediocre in comparison.
 
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ian87w

macrumors G3
Feb 22, 2020
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Indonesia
Not sure I am reading this correctly :)

Sure Apple make the 2 factor authorization for Android and W10 devices accessing your Apple account less automated, but they would LOL

But other apps requiring 2 factor are automated and some even auto read sms codes sent etc

Surely it varies app to app, OTP, finger print scan , CC 3 digit code etc ?
The difference is that with iOS, the OS took care of it by having the keyboard detect the OTP from the SMS. The apps themselves won't be able to read the SMS.

On Android, it's a lazy solution by simply allowing the app itself FULL ACCESS permission to read your all your SMS just to get the OTP.

Just want to point that out. It's not like people care, but it's something to think about.
 
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SteveJUAE

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The difference is that with iOS, the OS took care of it by having the keyboard detect the OTP from the SMS. The apps themselves won't be able to read the SMS.

On Android, it's a lazy solution by simply allowing the app itself FULL ACCESS permission to read your all your SMS just to get the OTP.

Just want to point that out. It's not like people care, but it's something to think about.
I understand and maybe we are splitting hairs :)

However it's quite possible your assumption is not for all IOS apps and to call it lazy is unnecessary to another solution that may also exist in other IOS apps

It may also be the case that the app using OTP codes etc is a messaging app and access granted is a primary requirement in the first instance, so you point is mute

But point noted :)
 
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