Tablets ARE coming...but iPad will not dominate

[drtyrell]

The only thing worse than making bold predictions about whether or not something will sell is people who actually bookmark or ical predictions so they can come back a year later to try and rub some anonymous posters nose in it a year later. Seriously, this is pathetic. I thought only the 12 year olds running MacDailyNews did that when anyone dares to write something negative about Apple.

To that point, I wonder if anyone remembers Wired magazine giving apple the top 100 list of things to do to save Apple. Apple followed nearly ALL of the points to the tee and came out on to of the world. Of course if this forum existed we'd have a bunch of tail grabbing followers saying how Wired as a bunch of ^%@#%@.

I know.

EVERYONE is talking about that Windows tablet. EVERYONE.

No one is talking about or interested in the iPad. NO ONE.

This thread is an abomination.

This is what we call a coward's retreat in debate. You move the nomenclature into a extremist terms such as "everyone" and "no one" of which is immediately absurd to the mind and the proposed debate so that you can forge a fake victory.

Score 0; you have been disqualified.

A media reader that can't display 75% of online video.

Yeah, and I can't WAIT to see what universal codec is going to solve the world's video demand in HTML 5. HTML 5 appeals to hacks who don't have the formal education to learn object oriented languages such as ActionScript. The most naive mantra of the common consumer is to assume that Adobe is going to sit on their hands for the next 2 years while they currently enjoy 99% of the rich media market to date. Absolutely ridiculous. They have been creating an optimized iPhone client for over a year, but Apple won't certify it because an AS coder would DESTROY the App store's viability, and they know it.

Flash is competition, plain and simple.

 

[dave1812dave]

Well, the tablet I think we're both referring to ISN'T a Microsoft invention. The point is that that vaporware video is innovative. I showed it to a ton of friends and told them hold off until Apple releases their new thing. Once a blueprint like that is released it should fuel the minds and define what IS innovative. That Windows tablet is solving problems, the iPad will have to continue developing iPad specific features to be of use.

Bottom-line with the presentation; it shouldn't have taken more than 6 months to create some sample apps to really blow away the audience and show them where they're going to be using this device to enhance their lives BEYOND what has already been done.

Apple is a great company. Steve is an exceptional human being. I think someone has let someone down here, and it makes me nervous that Steve really IS Apple, and if anything happens to him, we're going right back to the days of Skully calling evolution -> innovation. Someone has to take the reigns, and I think we have to push that demand. Whoever Steve trusted the product with while he was busy NOT DYING should be relieved of their duties in this area, because Steve was sitting in a leather chair VERY uncomfortable, and other than app crashes a decade ago, I can't remember him looking so out of place.

You know...the world won't come to an end if Apple ceased to exist. Hard for the dye-hard Macolytes to comprehend, but tis true, nevertheless.

 

[drtyrell]

You know...the world won't come to an end if Apple ceased to exist. Hard for the dye-hard Macolytes to comprehend, but tis true, nevertheless.

Very good and timely point. I concur.

 

[admanimal]

Very good and timely point. I concur.

Wow what a shock that the two of you would agree.

 

[Nebrie]

To that point, I wonder if anyone remembers Wired magazine giving apple the top 100 list of things to do to save Apple. Apple followed nearly ALL of the points to the tee and came out on to of the world. Of course if this forum existed we'd have a bunch of tail grabbing followers saying how Wired as a bunch of ^%@#%@.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.06/apple.html?topic=&topic_set=

Lets take a look at just a few of the gems in that article.

"Admit it. You're out of the hardware game. Outsource your hardware production, or scrap it entirely, to compete more directly with Microsoft without the liability of manufacturing boxes. "

" Pay cartoonist Scott Adams $10 million to have Dilbert fall in love with a Performa repairwoman. "

" Organize a telethon. Hire Jerry Lewis to get dewy-eyed over the new line of Mac products. "

"Get Ben & Jerry's to name a flavor after you. Suggestion: Apple Silicon Chip Supreme. "

"Bring back John Sculley. He would provide a convenient whipping boy. "

"Abandon the Mach operating system you just acquired and run Windows NT kernel instead. This would let Mac run existing PC programs. (Microsoft actually has Windows NT working on Mac hardware. It also has emulation of Mac programs with NT running on both Power PC and x86.) "

"Ink a promotion/development deal with Shaquille O'Neal; introduce designer Shaqintosh model. "

"Change your name to Snapple and see if you can dupe Quaker Oats into buying you. "

"Merge with Sega and become a game company. "

"Organize a very large bake sale - look what cookie sales have done for the Girl Scouts. "

"Design a desktop model - call it La Dolce Vita - with a built-in cappuccino maker (featuring anything but Starbuck's - Washington's other great homogenizer). "


So how long does Apple have to hold that bake sale in order to stave off bankruptcy?

 

[bobob]

To that point, I wonder if anyone remembers Wired magazine giving apple the top 100 list of things to do to save Apple. Apple followed nearly ALL of the points to the tee and came out on to of the world. Of course if this forum existed we'd have a bunch of tail grabbing followers saying how Wired as a bunch of ^%@#%@.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/5.06/apple.html?topic=&topic_set=

Lets take a look at just a few of the gems in that article.

...[11 selected points excerpted from the 100 by Nebrie]...

So how long does Apple have to hold that bake sale in order to stave off bankruptcy?

It's amazing that Nebrie could find eleven items in the article that he could attempt to ridicule by isolating them as a misleading quote.

But it's even more amazing that drtyrell pointed out the "Apple followed nearly ALL of the points to the tee" - - now that is a much more accurate, honest, and intelligent assessment of the amazingly prescient article.

 

[lilo777]

People who claim that the iPad won't dominate the slate market are going to be looking pretty dumb in a year.

I've got this thread bookmarked. Thanks for that.

There is not much to dominate or is there?

 

[marksman]

There is not much to dominate or is there?

That is the funny thing.

The iPad is essentially the first entry in a new market. There is no other device out there that competes with the iPad in any reasonable way.

Sure there are various devices that do some of the things they do, but there is no competition for the kind of hardware provided, the software provided in the price range provided.

The "competition" will be sprouting up. We will hear announcements soon. Maybe the JoJo pad will be a second rate competitor hard to tell. Lots of proposed or upcoming projects are in the book reader category and compete with the kindle. The iPad and kindle are not in the same category of devices.

The second Apple sells their first iPad they will be the market leader.

 

[drtyrell]

That is the funny thing.

The iPad is essentially the first entry in a new market. There is no other device out there that competes with the iPad in any reasonable way.

Sure there are various devices that do some of the things they do, but there is no competition for the kind of hardware provided, the software provided in the price range provided.

The "competition" will be sprouting up. We will hear announcements soon. Maybe the JoJo pad will be a second rate competitor hard to tell. Lots of proposed or upcoming projects are in the book reader category and compete with the kindle. The iPad and kindle are not in the same category of devices.

The second Apple sells their first iPad they will be the market leader.

Apple just set the bar a low as they could have.

 

[NT1440]

Apple just set the bar a low as they could have.

Extremely biased comment is extremely biased....