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No remote start for winder days or leaving the dog in the car on a hot summer day?
There is no start as in the sense of an internal combustion engine. You don’t start the car even though they do have a function in the phone that says “start”.

You can manually use your phone to turn the climate control on and for pets there is a dog mode that keeps the climate control on. The car is locked, and there is no running engine where somebody could jump in and drive away.
 
On my 2018 model 3, there are manual door releases in the front seats
It’s the hidden releases in the rear seat doors that are the safety issue. Most modern cars have manual releases in the rear combined with electronic child locks. Tesla only has electronic open/close buttons in the rear, combined with an electronic child lock, and they hide a manual release with no child lock underneath a plastic panel or behind a speaker grille. If front passengers are crushed in a head on crash the rear passengers could be in danger if they don’t know how or are too young to remove a speaker grill and open the door. I’m all for electric cars, and also for designing the safest cars possible. It’s an issue that could be easily fixed in future designs.
 
It’s the hidden releases in the rear seat doors that are the safety issue. Most modern cars have manual releases in the rear combined with electronic child locks. Tesla only has electronic open/close buttons in the rear, combined with an electronic child lock, and they hide a manual release with no child lock underneath a plastic panel or behind a speaker grille. If front passengers are crushed in a head on crash the rear passengers could be in danger if they don’t know how or are too young to remove a speaker grill and open the door. I’m all for electric cars, and also for designing the safest cars possible. It’s an issue that could be easily fixed in future designs.
I would say have the doors automatically open after a crash, but that would probably be bad if you had children in the car. I think they need to make the emergency releases more visible. I wish the ones up front were painted orange so people don’t think they are door handles. I think it’s funny that you get these people saying they can’t find the emergency release up front. I have to tell people don’t pull what looks like a door handle because they automatically go for it. Tesla needs Apple to make their designs more intuitive.
 
Same. Every time I rent a car that has CarPlay I am reminded of what I'm missing. Tesla's interface is good, but I miss having more options.
Funny. Every time I rent a car with CarPlay, I miss my Tesla!

Actually my previous car is a BMW G01 X3 with wireless CarPlay that I still own and my spouse drives it. Still don’t miss it.
 
Have you ever seen a Lithium battery fire? It is not as exciting as you think. They burn slowly. You would have time to grab your bag and look around to see what else you need and then leave. Then you would walk away and call 911 and watch

But on the other hand, have you ever seen a gasoline fire? They look kind of like a mushroom cloud. You don't have time to blink. and no one would slowly walk away from a gas fire.

Then there are the statistics. In the US there are about 25 fires for every 100,000 EVs sold, compared to about 1,530 fires for every 100,000 gas-powered vehicles sold. High-speed crashes are the cause of most EV fires. But simpler things can set off gasoline

When you think about it, it should not surprise anyone that gasoline is an 80 times greater fire hazard than a battery. What common substance is more flammable than gasoline?

Finally, you do not need a phone to open a Tesla door from the inside. The door handle is one of the very few physical controls in the car.

Mr. Madison, I think this time a simple “no” will do just fine.
 
It’s the hidden releases in the rear seat doors that are the safety issue. Most modern cars have manual releases in the rear combined with electronic child locks. Tesla only has electronic open/close buttons in the rear, combined with an electronic child lock, and they hide a manual release with no child lock underneath a plastic panel or behind a speaker grille. If front passengers are crushed in a head on crash the rear passengers could be in danger if they don’t know how or are too young to remove a speaker grill and open the door. I’m all for electric cars, and also for designing the safest cars possible. It’s an issue that could be easily fixed in future designs.
More recent Teslas have improved upon this. But most manufacturers fall short in the same area (rear seat manual door release).
 
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Have you ever seen a Lithium battery fire? It is not as exciting as you think. They burn slowly. You would have time to grab your bag and look around to see what else you need and then leave. Then you would walk away and call 911 and watch

But on the other hand, have you ever seen a gasoline fire? They look kind of like a mushroom cloud. You don't have time to blink. and no one would slowly walk away from a gas fire.

Then there are the statistics. In the US there are about 25 fires for every 100,000 EVs sold, compared to about 1,530 fires for every 100,000 gas-powered vehicles sold. High-speed crashes are the cause of most EV fires. But simpler things can set off gasoline

When you think about it, it should not surprise anyone that gasoline is an 80 times greater fire hazard than a battery. What common substance is more flammable than gasoline?

Finally, you do not need a phone to open a Tesla door from the inside. The door handle is one of the very few physical controls in the car.
Amazing. Someone down voted facts. Haters gonna hate… and continue to live in their bubble of lies. What a dark place to be.
 
Really? Tesla softwre is superior and very well integrated with the iPhone. You want software-on-to-of-a-software solution like CarPlay for what reason exactly?
Ruining CarPlay on a Tesla is equivalent to running OSX on Linux. Sure you can sit around typing to open a file, or you can double click on it.
 
Tesla infotainment is far superior to the few icons available in CarPlay. Not sure why all the craze about needing CP, switching between apps is clunky and going to submenus and back are nightmares.

The only thing missing on Tesla is Waze.
I decided to never buy another car without Car Play. Then I tried Tesla FSD and my mind got blown now I decided I will never buy a car without FSD. I think CarPlay fantastic for the legacy automakers but Tesla is just doing something completely different and it works great.
 
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Never had login issue, but you are correct it doesn't cache music. Most of the time should not be an issue.
Help me understand, I believe I have completely misunderstood this issue.
I have several playlists downloaded to my iPhone. I can play that music/audio through bluetooth in my Tesla without the need for cellular/wifi (tesla) connectivity. I think it just plays directly from the iPhone.
 
This is a misleading headline. It's partially based on NHTSA data and partially based on proprietary iSeeCars data. I'm not sure how trustworthy it is.
Crapstic... here's another:
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Help me understand, I believe I have completely misunderstood this issue.
I have several playlists downloaded to my iPhone. I can play that music/audio through bluetooth in my Tesla without the need for cellular/wifi (tesla) connectivity. I think it just plays directly from the iPhone.
Yes, he was talking about using Tesla built-in function like Spotify, Apple Music or Google music, not via phone Bluetooth.
 
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Curently use ‘watch for tesla’ and its great for opening trunk or frunk quickly. Native app is welcome.

Best car we have ever had by far…hate all you want but I doubt you would if you drove for 10 minutes!
 
No remote start for winder days or leaving the dog in the car on a hot summer day?
1. App has remote start.
2. You can leave the climate running when you're not in the car.
3. You can configure overheat protection in the car, where it'll automatically turn on the AC anytime the cabin gets warmer than 85 degrees F (~27 C), whether the car is "on" or not (the state that you might call "off" in other cars is more of just a "locked and asleep" mode in a Tesla... there is a truer "off" that you can put the car into via the service mode, but most owners probably never learn about that, and the only real reason you'd want to use it is if you were doing maintenance on the electronics of the car.)
 
Tesla confirmed the Apple Watch app will act as a digital key, so I think it's safe to assume it will act the same as the iPhone app. Assuming that's the case, I can answer some of your questions based on my own experience:


  • How often (if ever) has it failed to open the doors?
My car doesn't have UWB and relies only on Bluetooth, which isn't perfect. At least once a week it doesn't unlock the door immediately when I pull on the handle. Usually the delay is < 1 sec, where I yank the handle and it does nothing for a second and then unlocks. Not a huge deal, but not great either. I'm assuming this is why they added UWB support on newer vehicles.

  • Does it use UWB to reliably open the doors when you approach and close when you leave? Or do you sometimes need to take the phone out of your pocket to unlock?
I haven't experienced UWB myself, but from what I've read it seems to be pretty reliable. I haven't come across any reports of UWB failing to unlock. Worth noting too...even with Bluetooth I never have to take the phone out to unlock when it fails. Just need to wait an extra second.

  • Does it always choose the right driver profile if you have two drivers with their cell phones in the car? How does it work? UWB detects which phone entered through driver door?
This is a great question, I've never considered how it works when 2 phones are present. I did a quick search and it seems that for cars with Bluetooth, the chosen profile seems to correspond to the first phone the car connected to. This article mentions that the addition of UWB was expected to improve the driver profile selection by detecting which phone is closer to the driver's side...but I haven't come across any feedback that confirms if this is actually the case. If anyone reading has experience with this, please share!

  • Does it work with your phone if the phone if you are out of battery? (like Apple Car Key does)
I don't think so. AFAIK, this functionality is only available for apps utilizing Apple's CarKey framework, as you mentioned. The Nearby Interaction framework that leverages UWB doesn't provide any functionality that works when the phone's battery is dead.

  • Should we expect all the same with Watch App (when leaving your phone at home)?
Yes I think so. Based on Tesla's announcement, I think it's safe to assume the Watch app will function more or less identically to the phone app. If you leave your phone at home, the watch will be able to communicate with the car over Bluetooth/UWB when you're in proximity to the vehicle. If you're not in proximity to the vehicle and your watch has a cellular plan or is connected to wifi, the watch app will be able to send commands through the cloud like the phone app does today.

  • Are there still some benefits for Apple Car Key over Tesla's implementation?
In my opinion, absolutely. I think the main benefit is being able to use the key when the phone is dead, I've had a few cases where my phone died and I needed to start the car. Luckily I had the key card on me in all those cases, but had I not it would've been extremely frustrating. CarKey has some other nice to have features like the ability to share the key, or automatic deactivation of the key if you use Find My to put the phone in lost mode.


As much as I'd love to see Tesla implement CarKey, I'm definitely not holding my breath for it. Similar to CarPlay, as much as I'd like to have these features, I do understand why they refuse to implement them. Hopefully this changes in the future.

Just my 2¢! I'm a huge Apple+Tesla geek, and seeing my worlds collide in this article made me feel compelled to share... but I'm just a guy on the internet so take it all with a grain of salt.
Interesting to hear it works so well for you. I have to take my phone out constantly unfortunately.

It used to work perfectly for maybe 2 years but since I got the iPhone 15 pro a year ago it works very unreliable.
 
1. App has remote start.
2. You can leave the climate running when you're not in the car.
3. You can configure overheat protection in the car, where it'll automatically turn on the AC anytime the cabin gets warmer than 85 degrees F (~27 C), whether the car is "on" or not (the state that you might call "off" in other cars is more of just a "locked and asleep" mode in a Tesla... there is a truer "off" that you can put the car into via the service mode, but most owners probably never learn about that, and the only real reason you'd want to use it is if you were doing maintenance on the electronics of the car.)
Cabin Overheat Protection only works for up to 12 hours from the last time you drove the vehicle. Lots of new owners (and maybe a fair amount of old owners) may not realize that.
 
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Interesting to hear it works so well for you. I have to take my phone out constantly unfortunately.

It used to work perfectly for maybe 2 years but since I got the iPhone 15 pro a year ago it works very unreliable.
Do you have to take the phone out of your pocket and turn the screen on, or just take it out of your pocket?
 
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