Thank you SO much Apple..

[magicman32]

As long as you don't think your user experience is going to be everyone's user experience. This thread was made by people who have a concern about a problem they've been having, which you've stated you don't have.

Hence me leaving this thread. Sorry you guys hate your devices so much. Sometimes people can focus so much on the negative, it consumes them, eats them alive and they lose track of all the good that does exist.

Hope you find a solution that makes you happy but somehow I doubt it.

/thread (for me.)

 

[Radon87000]

Ever notice how no one is really talking or complaining about anything that is actually in or part of iOS 9?

Some (not all) thrive on finding something negative to zone in on. It's something different with every release. Last year it was the animation inside the Weather app when expanding and collapsing a city. iOS 7 was the redesign. This year it's Control Centre, Spotlight and App Switcher animations.

And I wouldn't say it's "so many people". Last I saw (which was over a week ago) 50% adoption rate to iOS 9 on all iDevices. Which would mean tens of millions of people are currently running iOS 9. The small amount of people on here that are vocal are such a minuscule percent of the total user base. And even a small amount of total MR users.

Yes iOS 9 does stutter. Some devices worse than others. And sometimes not even the same amount on same model devices. It's not "planned obsoletness", it's just a case of an early version of a new OS. Has there been smoother iOS versions? Yes. Most commonly brought up one is iOS 6. But since iOS 7, 8 and now 9, it's pretty much been totally rewriten from the ground up since 6. iOS 6 was also far less complex and had a totally different UI with totally different animations.

In other words ignore the minority unless the dumb sheep attach "gate" to the issue at which point it will be fixed.
It's people like you who think lag is irrelevant and the majority don't have it which results in Apple not fixing it.FYI The iPhone 6 I have has a yellow tint at the top. Which is darker than the rest and the same problem carried over in the 6S.The Nexus 5 I has a clear white throughout.Just like the petty excus s here I was told "Since people don't look at white screens all day this problem is acceptable and Apple won't fix it".Now I have learnt to live with it but the same mentality was being used there

Why should I put up with lag which was e main reason I migrated to iOS

 

[C DM]

In other words ignore the minority unless the dumb sheep attach "gate" to the issue at which point it will be fixed.
It's people like you who think lag is irrelevant and the majority don't have it which results in Apple not fixing it.FYI The iPhone 6 I have has a yellow tint at the top. Which is darker than the rest and the same problem carried over in the 6S.The Nexus 5 I has a clear white throughout.Just like the petty excus s here I was told "Since people don't look at white screens all day this problem is acceptable and Apple won't fix it".Now I have learnt to live with it but the same mentality was being used there

Why should I put up with lag which was e main reason I migrated to iOS

Repeated posts about it in repeated threads about it here won't be getting Apple to do anything else other than what they were already going to do.

 

[lagwagon]

In other words ignore the minority unless the dumb sheep attach "gate" to the issue at which point it will be fixed.
It's people like you who think lag is irrelevant and the majority don't have it which results in Apple not fixing it.FYI The iPhone 6 I have has a yellow tint at the top. Which is darker than the rest and the same problem carried over in the 6S.The Nexus 5 I has a clear white throughout.Just like the petty excus s here I was told "Since people don't look at white screens all day this problem is acceptable and Apple won't fix it".Now I have learnt to live with it but the same mentality was being used there

Why should I put up with lag which was e main reason I migrated to iOS

I don't think it's totally irrelevant. But animations are just fancy razzle dazzle and in the big picture they are a less important (sure they can impact how an OS feels, but less important than things actually working.) Stability and critical bugs are top priority. And that's where iOS 9 has been very solid so far. Attention will no doubt be made to animation performance, there seems to be small gains with every single beta build for 9.1 so far. So they ARE actively working on it. Making threads or posts in a thread on MacRumours doesn't also as you say "result in Apple fixing it".

Send feedback TO apple instead of ranting over and over. I just checked my submitted feedback list in the feedback app and the last one I sent regarding animations was on the 7th (Just 5 days ago.) So I'm doing my part, by giving the feedback directly to apple. I don't need to whine about it on a forum.

As for your yellow tint on the screen only at the top. That happens. Welcome to mass production. I don't know what panel type the Nexus uses (is it OLED?). Good news is, companies like Apple usually will replace the screen for you (sometimes even the entire phone) since that is a defect. Definitely something you should go inquire about.

 

[Prabas]

Connected my iPad Air to XCode to check framerate of animations. It's bad! The only thing I did was open spotlight search and browse through multitasking menu.

I did that again, and framerates are around 40.

 

[Radon87000]

Connected my iPad Air to XCode to check framerate of animations. It's bad! The only thing I did was open spotlight search and browse through multitasking menu.

I did that again, and framerates are around 40.

Not surprised as the Air 2 is dropping frames.The Air 1 is probably crying for mercy running the OS

 

[Prabas]

Here are my two videos. At least 720p@60fps.

iPad Air

iPhone 6

Compared to iPad, iPhone is buttery smooth. The more noticeable minor stutters on iPhone are in Spotlight and scrolling in applications. On iPad Air... well you can see how bad it is without pointing fingers.

 

[philipyoungg]

I don't think it's totally irrelevant. But animations are just fancy razzle dazzle and in the big picture they are a less important (sure they can impact how an OS feels, but less important than things actually working.) Stability and critical bugs are top priority. And that's where iOS 9 has been very solid so far. Attention will no doubt be made to animation performance, there seems to be small gains with every single beta build for 9.1 so far. So they ARE actively working on it. Making threads or posts in a thread on MacRumours doesn't also as you say "result in Apple fixing it".

Send feedback TO apple instead of ranting over and over. I just checked my submitted feedback list in the feedback app and the last one I sent regarding animations was on the 7th (Just 5 days ago.) So I'm doing my part, by giving the feedback directly to apple. I don't need to whine about it on a forum.

As for your yellow tint on the screen only at the top. That happens. Welcome to mass production. I don't know what panel type the Nexus uses (is it OLED?). Good news is, companies like Apple usually will replace the screen for you (sometimes even the entire phone) since that is a defect. Definitely something you should go inquire about.

Sure I understand your PoV. But really, on 5s it still perform acceptable, not great. Minor stutter here and there (at least for me). But on iPad Air... Believe me: it didn't perform better compared to iPad 3 iOS 8 Framedrops literally everywhere. App switching, music, scrolling lag, weird issue, et cetera. I guess you won't understand the problem unless you have the device right on your hand.

P.s. I've uploaded 60FPS video yesterday. If you interested, you can check it from my previous post on "annually slowing our device" thread.

 

[lagwagon]

Here are my two videos. At least 720p@60fps.

iPad Air

iPhone 6

Compared to iPad, iPhone is buttery smooth. The more noticeable minor stutters on iPhone are in Spotlight and scrolling in applications. On iPad Air... well you can see how bad it is without pointing fingers.

I would definitely not be impressed if my phone ran as bad as your Air. My iPhone 6 is pretty much identical now on beta 5 as what your iPhone video shows. Minor stuff. But that Air is pretty bad, and odd at the same time. I have access to two iPad 4's and I don't think any of them are that bad, not perfect obviously, but not that bad. I'll have to double check and go through them and pay attention (though at that level it would be near impossible to miss.)

I would if you have the beta profile send feedback along with that exact same video of your Air. And continue to send it every new build/update Apple releases until it's at a minimum no less than your iPhone video levels.

 

[Prabas]

Oh I did that, reported it.

 

[Radon87000]

Here are my two videos. At least 720p@60fps.

iPad Air

iPhone 6

Compared to iPad, iPhone is buttery smooth. The more noticeable minor stutters on iPhone are in Spotlight and scrolling in applications. On iPad Air... well you can see how bad it is without pointing fingers.

The iPad is horrible.Atrocious.Its worse than Android tablet at this point.And I was contemplating buying that thing when it was released and decided to stick with m Nexus until he second gen.What a wise decision that was

 

[danleon950410]

I can make any version of Windows stutter. It's not hard. Most normal users can't you have to start activity that overwhelms the hardware briefly.

Well that's true but also applies to every desktop class OS, not just Windows

 

[danleon950410]

I guess all those people who have complaints in various Microsoft and tech forums related to sub-par experience they have with Windows 10 must be making it up then?

Yeah, the performance issues, almost all of them must be made up. But you seem to conveniently overlook the fact that the complaints are about bugs, glitches ans unprepared drivers...
Very few persons are complaining aboyt performance, but yeah, on any NEW software that was just released you can find problems and reports...

Can't you just understand that with your "let's hate microsoft" logic?

I'll give you some other words:"I guess all those people who have complaints in various Apple and tech forums related to sub-par experience they have with El Capitan must be making it up then?"

Make sure that your arguments can't be usen against you...

 

[I7guy]

Yeah, the performance issues, almost all of them must be made up. But you seem to conveniently overlook the fact that the complaints are about bugs, glitches ans unprepared drivers...
Very few persons are complaining aboyt performance, but yeah, on any NEW software that was just released you can find problems and reports...

Can't you just understand that with your "let's hate microsoft" logic?

I'll give you some other words:"I guess all those people who have complaints in various Apple and tech forums related to sub-par experience they have with El Capitan must be making it up then?"

Make sure that your arguments can't be usen against you...

Nobody is making anything up, but at the same time not everybody's use case is the same and experiencing the same issues; which is claim that has been made that everybody is having issues just too "stupid" to know it.

 

[C DM]

Yeah, the performance issues, almost all of them must be made up. But you seem to conveniently overlook the fact that the complaints are about bugs, glitches ans unprepared drivers...
Very few persons are complaining aboyt performance, but yeah, on any NEW software that was just released you can find problems and reports...

Can't you just understand that with your "let's hate microsoft" logic?

I'll give you some other words:"I guess all those people who have complaints in various Apple and tech forums related to sub-par experience they have with El Capitan must be making it up then?"

Make sure that your arguments can't be usen against you...

What hate Microsoft logic again? There was a reference to Windows being the epitome of perfection and I referenced that it certainly wasn't based on the same criteria used to measure iOS--complaints from users.

I have no idea about anything else related to some Microsoft hate or anything else that you tried to say with all of that. So nothing I said has been used against me nor has been disproven (in fact more like supported).

 

[RadioGaGa1984]

Yep, definitely need a thumbs down button. Lol!
I consider myself a 'power user' and I noticed the difference right away after installing ios9. Fed up with people making excuses for Apple. This is definitely intentional.

So dump it and buy a different phone.

 

[danleon950410]

Nobody is making anything up, but at the same time not everybody's use case is the same and experiencing the same issues; which is claim that has been made that everybody is having issues just too "stupid" to know it.

Exactly, that was my point, but as it happens in every thread people can't seem to understand that...

 

[danleon950410]

What hate Microsoft logic again? There was a reference to Windows being the epitome of perfection and I referenced that it certainly wasn't based on the same criteria used to measure iOS--complaints from users.

I have no idea about anything else related to some Microsoft hate or anything else that you tried to say with all of that. So nothing I said has been used against me nor has been disproven (in fact more like supported).

Nope...i'm sure you just tried to turn down two persons with a good opinon about windows 10. Nobody called it perfect, the other user only said that Microsoft is trying to get rid of obsolescence as Apple seems to make it even more profitable, but that last part is an open debate for another day.

Point is that you came to say it wasn't perfect, in easier words of course...and it isn't, and of course, some users are having a bad time while some of us are having a very good one.
That applies to iOS, OS X, Windows, Linux and what have you...But people, machines, conditions and habits of using things, that's ALL DIFFERENT. Our way of thinking is different too, so we should get different results...

I'm sorry for jumping the gun earlier, but let's consider something: As some users are having problems and others aren't, there are some factors we can all agree on...

 

[dk001]

My definition (yours will likely vary)

• Device Critical - my device is no longer usable for what I need
• Critical - Function(s) on my device is no longer usable for what I need
• Disappointment - Existing functionality has been negatively impacted
• Minor - It is annoying and impacts my user experience.
• PITA - A disappointment I was unable to find decent work around for.
• Crap - More apps for my iCrap folder

On my 6+, iOS9 had one Critical, a few Disappointments, several Minor, and one PITA
On my iMini 3, iOS9 had two Critical, more than a few Disappointment, several Minor, and a couple of PITA

I would bet that most here on this forum have different definitions and terms. Different perceptions.
The condition for each device as updates are rolled out is fluid. It is not all positive.

 

[Radon87000]

My definition (yours will likely vary)

• Device Critical - my device is no longer usable for what I need
• Critical - Function(s) on my device is no longer usable for what I need
• Disappointment - Existing functionality has been negatively impacted
• Minor - It is annoying and impacts my user experience.
• PITA - A disappointment I was unable to find decent work around for.
• Crap - More apps for my iCrap folder

On my 6+, iOS9 had one Critical, a few Disappointments, several Minor, and one PITA
On my iMini 3, iOS9 had two Critical, more than a few Disappointment, several Minor, and a couple of PITA

I would bet that most here on this forum have different definitions and terms. Different perceptions.
The condition for each device as updates are rolled out is fluid. It is not all positive.

In other words the experience matches Android

 

[C DM]

In other words the experience matches Android

Matches reality.

 

[dk001]

In other words the experience matches Android

Yes and No.
I rate my Android and Windows devices the same way (though I don't need a Crap folder).

For what it's worth, my Note 5 is better than my 6+ and 6S+ in terms of issues. My S6 Edge was worse. My....
For me the terms I use are not OS specific in general.

 

[darthbane2k]

My goodness! Try streaming something from Apple Music or podcasts while browsing in safari and using the keyboard. Lock up city!

I hate to say it but I have had enough. My iPhone 6 is now unbearable to use. I will try to sell and get a 6S.
Yes I know that defeats the purpose and apple just Gets what it wanted all along, but I cannot use this phone anymore. I may as well have myself a cheaper android device.

 

[Radon87000]

Welcome to Stuttersville!!Just look at this lag.It reminds me of android gingerbread

 

[fightcrazy]

My new 6S is also running very buggy. I think it's the OS needing some serious fixing. Terrible update with a ton of bugs. Released way too early.