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newellj

macrumors G3
Oct 15, 2014
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Do you honestly believe the experience on the same exact hardware and software varies that much? Do you know anything about technology? (not trying to be rude)

Logically, you would think it was impossible, given the Apple "ecosystem," but empirically it does seem to be true. Either that or half the people who post here are bald liars. (Again, not trying to be rude.)
 

Radon87000

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Nov 29, 2013
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How did you ever live through all the iOS versions before iOS 9 without the adblockers??? ;)
I was primarily in the Android ecosystem till last year but the horrific update situation and laggy widgets forced me to go to iPhone and iPad .
 

newellj

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Oct 15, 2014
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I was primarily in the Android ecosystem till last year but the horrific update situation and laggy widgets forced me to go to iPhone and iPad .

That sort of brings up a basic issue. Lots of people here are obviously incredibly unhappy, yet doesn't switch away from the iPhone/iPad products. At some point, it seems to me that people should just make a choice and skip the outrage. I'm not saying that pointing out problems isn't valid and constructive, but the conspiracy theories and personal outrage only raise those persons' blood pressure, to not practical effect (since the complaints have been pouring in this time of year every year for years and nothing seems to have changed - in those persons' views).
 

newellj

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Oct 15, 2014
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ITT Apple Apologists vs. Apple Critics

And, yes. I agree with OP. Apple has Fckd up my iPhone 6 Plus. To those apologists to say to restore. I've fully restored this crap like 10 times already, tried a million things like turning off spotlight etc, and nothing works. It's just lazy bad coding by Apple, and apologists who can't be objective and confess this was a bad update.

You are such an ignorant. Why would someone who had a perfectly smooth running phone with 8.4.2 go to the Apple Store? It's a software problem with iOS 9, not hardware.

I'm curious where you got a working copy of 8.4.2...? ;)
 

RebornProphet

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Nov 3, 2013
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That covers the stutter, but what is the excuse for Touch ID working more slowly?
Surely to just emphasise the 'merits' of the 6S, right?

I wouldn't mind if the hardware couldn't genuinely keep up with the OS, but I truly believe my iPhone 6 is more than powerful enough to still offer a smooth experience. There's simply no excuse.

Strange, no change in my iPhone 6 in terms of Touch ID speed.
 

Tamagotchi

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Jun 13, 2013
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I'm curious where you got a working copy of 8.4.2...? ;)

1) I was using the betas for 3 months, I could've downgraded anytime.
2) After the release of iOS9 the sign in window for 8.4.1 was still open for 2 weeks. I could've used a 8.4.1 IPSW at anytime.
 

dk001

macrumors demi-god
Oct 3, 2014
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Sage, Lightning, and Mountains
Sigh.

Do you even realize Microsoft actually released Windows 10 unfinished a few months earlier than what was originally planned? On purpose too, to get in on the "back to school" crowd. And they are releasing Threshold 2 soon to add in what was supposed to be included in its originally planned fall (October/November) release.

So no, Apple should not learn from MS and Windows.

*edit* also. Windows animations are far far different from iOS ones. Windows just fades stuff in. iOS slides and grows things in.

I can turn off the fade in Windows.
I can turn off the animations in Android.
I so wish I could turn off the slide/grow animations in iOS. They get old so quickly.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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I can turn off the fade in Windows.
I can turn off the animations in Android.
I so wish I could turn off the slide/grow animations in iOS. They get old so quickly.
Settings > General > Accessibilty > Reduce Motion
 

dk001

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Oct 3, 2014
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Sage, Lightning, and Mountains
Settings > General > Accessibilty > Reduce Motion
I have already set that.
My 6S+ still swoops, sweeps, swishes from page to page, from screen to app load, from.....
It doesn't do much of a reduce.
More of a change from sweeping swoosh to fade in/out swoosh.
Still, it's a swoosh.

I want to kill the animations. Not change them. :cool:
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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I have already set that.
My 6S+ still swoops, sweeps, swishes from page to page, from screen to app load, from.....
It doesn't do much of a reduce.
More of a change from sweeping swoosh to fade in/out swoosh.
Still, it's a swoosh.

I want to kill the animations. Not change them. :cool:
Odd. With that setting I primarily get some fading throughout the OS. Within various apps I'll get some sliding as I go from page to page perhaps, but on the OS level there's really no zooming/growing or anything like that. The setting doesn't disable everything, given that it's called "reduce", but it does get rid of quite a bit of it enough to make more than a noticeable difference for those who don't care for animations.
 

dk001

macrumors demi-god
Oct 3, 2014
11,136
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Sage, Lightning, and Mountains
Odd. With that setting I primarily get some fading throughout the OS. Within various apps I'll get some sliding as I go from page to page perhaps, but on the OS level there's really no zooming/growing or anything like that. The setting doesn't disable everything, given that it's called "reduce", but it does get rid of quite a bit of it enough to make more than a noticeable difference for those who don't care for animations.

It does make a noticeable difference. I would like more.
On my other device (Note 5) I went in and scaled back the animations. Now when I click on an app, it's more of a "snap!" it opens immediately. I did the same for my Windows environments.
I would really like this option for iOS. The animations really provide nothing beyond an initial "ooooohhhh" user experience.
 

newellj

macrumors G3
Oct 15, 2014
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I was primarily in the Android ecosystem till last year but the horrific update situation and laggy widgets forced me to go to iPhone and iPad .

At some point you just have to shrug and move on, really. That's not a personal dig, it's just a statement about not having a piece of tech hijack your life and happiness. My wife and younger (27 YO) son hate Apple and iOS, but use iPhones because for them iMessage is an essential app. They don't spend all day at MR posting about how much they hate the phones they've chosen to use. :D BTW, I'm not saying you do that, but there are others who do seem to do that. :(
 
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CTHarrryH

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Jul 4, 2012
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For those of us who ran Apple stuff (like original MAC, etc) when Jobs was alive - there were plenty of bugs in it also. He was a brilliant man but not perfect.

I still ask and there is no way of knowing - how many of these bugs are really caused by 3rd party apps not behaving properly
 
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Black Magic

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Sep 30, 2012
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At some point you just have to shrug and move on, really. That's not a personal dig, it's just a statement about not having a piece of tech hijack your life and happiness. My wife and younger (27 YO) son hate Apple and iOS, but use iPhones because for them iMessage is an essential app. They don't spend all day at MR posting about how much they hate the phones they've chosen to use. :D BTW, I'm not saying you do that, but there are others who do seem to do that. :(

I think this comment is spot on. Good stuff!
 

magicman32

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Dec 25, 2007
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That covers the stutter, but what is the excuse for Touch ID working more slowly?
Surely to just emphasise the 'merits' of the 6S, right?

I wanna know what planet someone lives on where Touch ID, at least on my 6Plus running 9.1 beta 5, is slow?

It is blazing fast and no I'm not an Apple apologist. The 6 series suffers from the lack of RAM and always will, but I'm so happy with the performance of my year-old phone I'm keeping it for another year. I must be imagining my happiness and somehow not falling prey to the "so-called" planned obsolescence (no not a believer in that, would kill your business faster than grow it). My iPad Air 2 stutters occasionally, guess that means I must buy an iPad Air 3, ya know, planned obsolescence... oh, wait...

Is the 6 series perfect? No. Does it perform as amazingly smooth as some here say? I'd say no. Is it as horrible and as a complete waste of money as some people here say? Absolutely not (at least my version). As is most times the case, the truth is in the middle.

Despite the drama queens here who are doing so much "power use" on the oh-so-versatile iPhone/iPad series that the occasional (my experience) lag or stutter destroy their whole world.
 

Act3

macrumors 68020
Sep 26, 2014
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USA
That covers the stutter, but what is the excuse for Touch ID working more slowly?
Surely to just emphasise the 'merits' of the 6S, right?

I wouldn't mind if the hardware couldn't genuinely keep up with the OS, but I truly believe my iPhone 6 is more than powerful enough to still offer a smooth experience. There's simply no excuse.

touch ID definitely slower on iOS 9 on iphone 6, have a 6 running 8.4.1 along side a 6 running 9.0.2, the 8.4.1 unlocks about half second faster

that really shouldn't be but it is. anyone explain why?

why should the "unlocking" be slower with the new iOS?
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
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touch ID definitely slower on iOS 9 on iphone 6, have a 6 running 8.4.1 along side a 6 running 9.0.2, the 8.4.1 unlocks about half second faster

that really shouldn't be but it is. anyone explain why?

why should the "unlocking" be slower with the new iOS?
It shouldn't be, and doesn't appear to be for many.
 

Hieveryone

macrumors 603
Apr 11, 2014
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OP is right. My iPhone is a year old and now it's kind of slow. My theory is Apple wants us to buy the new one to make more profits so they make a software that slows down older iPhones. Better shell out cash if you want an iPhone that works really well. Older ones become junk.
 

C DM

macrumors Sandy Bridge
Oct 17, 2011
51,392
19,461
OP is right. My iPhone is a year old and now it's kind of slow. My theory is Apple wants us to buy the new one to make more profits so they make a software that slows down older iPhones. Better shell out cash if you want an iPhone that works really well. Older ones become junk.
Junk? A few dropped frames in a few places are junk? We are back to that again?
 
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