That's it, ThinkPad Ordered.

[raqball]

Looks great! Congrats.
I prefer the black though. What screen did you get? OLED or IPS?

The black is the more traditional X1C but since this is the 1st year they have offered it in silver, I figured I'd give it a go.. I am also OCD and the black shows palm and finger smudges pretty easy.. I've been using the silver for 2 days now and not a smudge to be seen. So for the OCD, go silver!

I have the IPS 1080p. The screen is crisp and clear and I don't really have any complaints.

 

[macjunk(ie)]

The black is more tradiotion X1C but since this is the 1st year they have offered it in silver, I figured I'd give it a go.. I am also OCD and the black show palm and finger smudges pretty easy.. I've been using the silver for 2 days now and not a smudge to be seen. So for the OCD, go silver!

I have the IPS 1080p. The screen is crisp and clear and I don't really have any complaints.

The black one smudges like crazy...you are right. By the way, what battery life are you getting in ubuntu? TLP installed I presume? On the Yoga 370, it died in 4 hours for me. Gave up early though.

Also, did you install infinality for the font rendering?

 

[raqball]

The black one smudges like crazy...you are right. By the way, what battery life are you getting in ubuntu? TLP installed I presume? On the Yoga 370, it died in 4 hours for me. Gave up early though.

Also, did you install infinality for the font rendering?

Yes I do have TLP installed. Not sure yet on battery as I've only had it 2 days.. The 1st day I charged it to 100% then after getting it all setup I ran on battery for about 5 hours.. Still had 55% left or something like that..
I'll test it more in the days to come..

I have not messed with the fonts yet and they look fine to me. I'll probably tweak it more later though..

 

[0989383]

I'm looking to sell mine for the iPad only lifestyle..

I just don't like Windows 10.

I got it with student discount and Easter Weekend savings so I got it for a steal.. so if I sell it now and regret it I can buy another if it's THAT BAD.

Personally though I think I'll only need a PC occasionally and be able to use the university PCs.

I don't think for my needs Windows is needed.. sigh

 

[raqball]

I'm looking to sell mine for the iPad only lifestyle..

I just don't like Windows 10.

I got it with student discount and Easter Weekend savings so I got it for a steal.. so if I sell it now and regret it I can buy another if it's THAT BAD.

Personally though I think I'll only need a PC occasionally and be able to use the university PCs.

I don't think for my needs Windows is needed.. sigh

Bummer but good luck with the sale.. I am really liking my X1 Carbon.. Windows 10 is okay for the most part but I am booting into Ubuntu and just using Windows as a secondary boot.

Did you ever try Linux? Most ThinkPads play well with Linux.. Maybe try downloading a Linux ISO and doing a live boot so you can play around without installing it.

I am up and running Windows 10 right now and I don't really have any issue with it at all. I actually find it smoother and snappier than MacOS.. No dreaded beach ball! I do prefer MacOS but so far, when I use Win 10, I am pleasantly surprised.

 

[macjunk(ie)]

Bummer but good luck with the sale.. I am really liking my X1 Carbon.. Windows 10 is okay for the most part but I am booting into Ubuntu and just using Windows as a secondary boot.

Did you ever try Linux? Most ThinkPads play well with Linux.. Maybe try downloading a Linux ISO and doing a live boot so you can play around without installing it.

I am up and running Windows 10 right now and I don't really have any issue with it at all. I actually find it smoother and snappier than MacOS.. No dreaded beach ball! I do prefer MacOS but so far, when I use Win 10, I am pleasantly surprised.

I think the OP is neck deep in Apple's distortion field...lost cause No offense OP.
Win and Linux are not bad at all. I know plenty of professionals who make boatloads of money working on these platforms. So, these platforms cannot suck so much. The only reason why we can't use these platforms in our lives is because we don't want to.

 

[raqball]

I think the OP is neck deep in Apple's distortion field...lost cause No offense OP.
Win and Linux are not bad at all. I know plenty of professionals who make boatloads of money working on these platforms. So, these platforms cannot suck so much. The only reason why we can't use these platforms in our lives is because we don't want to.

Some people just become creatures of habit or don't want to learn new things. It's easier and smoother to go with what they know..

I am lucky in that I use all 3 OS's fairly constantly. They all have their plusses and minuses.. I prefer MacOS but Windows 10 and Linux are not far behind. I can get on any of the 3 and not really miss a beat. Windows does take more user interaction and initial setup than MacOS does but once you get it all up and rocking, it's really just as effortless. Linux might be the most difficult for some but it's gotten much more user friendly over the years.

It's the same with the trackpoint / nub on the ThinkPad. When I got my 1st X1 (3rd gen) a few years ago I hated the nub but a friend told me to give it 2 weeks of use before I decided. Once I used it, it grew on me and I actually missed it after selling the 3rd gen. So happy to have it back now and I really do use it about half the time..

I'd suggest the OP give Win 10 more time before giving up on it.. I'd also suggest trying a Linux flavor. A good beginner Linux distro is either Ubuntu or Linux Mint..

 

[0989383]

I completely understand the criticism guys.

As I said, Windows 10 ticks the boxes and does the job, but yeah I don't think it's for me. And it's not unfair to say that.

I tried it. Made a new Outlook account, bought Office 365, subscribed to Groove Music etc I was even willing to buy a Windows Phone despite knowing the flaws... I even moved ALL my calendars, contacts, iCloud Drive etc onto Microsoft services... NOTHING worked seemingly. Not even on their iPhone apps.

SketchUp wouldn't run at all.. Windows issue or hardware issue, either way.. chances of them fixing it.. I won't hold my breath. As I said too, the IPS screen cant render textures fast enough on Minecraft of all games.. And as of the past week, the computer still boots fast but as soon as you open an app, i.e. Edge you wait over 1 minute for it to load the homepage.. I know Windows normally slows down over time but after just a month I'm disappointed.

So look. I tried it. I admit it's better than ever before. But that's still not good enough. Not when you've owned a Mac and you know what you're missing. My content didn't feel at home.

I do stand by my previous statement, that Windows is fine.. at school.. at work.. maybe even as a second computer.. but when you're stranded on it as your only personal computer having had the Mac lifestyle you feel like sh*t. Apple Distortion? Perhaps. But it's certainly a real thing and I can't be the only one.

Linux looks great too but after joining and getting into a few user forums most of them users tell me that it's probably not ideal because I don't have any form of coding or debugging experience when things go wrong, which, apparently they do a bit more often on Linux. I'm just not cut out for the Linux life.

 

[raqball]

I completely understand the criticism guys.

As I said, Windows 10 ticks the boxes and does the job, but yeah I don't think it's for me. And it's not unfair to say that.

I tried it. Made a new Outlook account, bought Office 365, subscribed to Groove Music etc I was even willing to buy a Windows Phone despite knowing the flaws... I even moved ALL my calendars, contacts, iCloud Drive etc onto Microsoft services... NOTHING worked seemingly. Not even on their iPhone apps.

SketchUp wouldn't run at all.. Windows issue or hardware issue, either way.. chances of them fixing it.. I won't hold my breath. As I said too, the IPS screen cant render textures fast enough on Minecraft of all games.. And as of the past week, the computer still boots fast but as soon as you open an app, i.e. Edge you wait over 1 minute for it to load the homepage.. I know Windows normally slows down over time but after just a month I'm disappointed.

So look. I tried it. I admit it's better than ever before. But that's still not good enough. Not when you've owned a Mac and you know what you're missing. My content didn't feel at home.

I do stand by my previous statement, that Windows is fine.. at school.. at work.. maybe even as a second computer.. but when you're stranded on it as your only personal computer having had the Mac lifestyle you feel like sh*t. Apple Distortion? Perhaps. But it's certainly a real thing and I can't be the only one.

Linux looks great too but after joining and getting into a few user forums most of them users tell me that it's probably not ideal because I don't have any form of coding or debugging experience when things go wrong, which, apparently they do a bit more often on Linux. I'm just not cut out for the Linux life.

Not sure why you had issues on Win 10 as your experience is nowhere close to mine. Maybe you had faulty hardware or a software issue..

Nothing wrong with not liking Windows.. There are plenty of hardcore Win users who would hate Mac and give up on it just as quickly. Get what works for you. If familiarity with the OS is important then I can't fault you for that..

Re: Linux... I don't know who gave you that terrible advice but my guess is it must have been new users who are clueless.. To be fair though, some Linux distros do not play well with some systems and user tinkering is required. In the case of the ThinkPad and with many Dell PC's, Ubuntu plays very well with them and little to no user tinkering is required.

My son mainly uses his Android tablet as his main PC but he does have an older Gateway All In One computer that came with Windows Vista I think... I axed Vista about a year ago and put Ubuntu on it. He knows little to nothing about PC and he is not one to tinker. In the year that he has had Ubuntu on that Gateway he has never once asked me to help him do anything on it. He mainly surfs the web, email, office type docs and other minor stuff.

Also, if you ever did come across an issue or a question the Ubuntu community is stellar! Many will walk you through step by step where all you have to do is open terminal and copy and paste the commands they tell you to..

Anyway, I don't know who you spoke to about Linux but they were obviously clueless... For Ubuntu you want the LTS (long term support) as it's the most stable and polished of the distro. It has 5 years of guaranteed updates and support. Some of the bleeding edge distros are and can be problematic..

Good luck but I still think you gave up way to early on Win 10 and I think it's a mistake to not at least try Ubuntu for a week or so before deciding it was to challenging...

 

[0989383]

Not sure why you had issues on Win 10 as your experience is nowhere close to mine. Maybe you had faulty hardware or a software issue..

Nothing wrong with not liking Windows.. There are plenty of hardcore Win users who would hate Mac and give up on it just as quickly. Get what works for you. If familiarity with the OS is important then I can't fault you for that..

Re: Linux... I don't know who gave you that terrible advice but my guess is it must have been new users who are clueless.. To be fair though, some Linux distros do not play well with some systems and user tinkering is required. In the case of the ThinkPad and with many Dell PC's, Ubuntu plays very well with them and little to no user tinkering is required.

My son mainly uses his Android tablet as his main PC but he does have an older Gateway All In One computer that came with Windows Vista I think... I axed Vista about a year ago and put Ubuntu on it. He knows little to nothing about PC and he is not one to tinker. In the year that he has had Ubuntu on that Gateway he has never once asked me to help him do anything on it. He mainly surfs the web, email, office type docs and other minor stuff.

Also, if you ever did come across an issue or a question the Ubuntu community is stellar! Many will walk you through step by step where all you have to do is open terminal and copy and paste the commands they tell you to..

Anyway, I don't know who you spoke to about Linux but they were obviously clueless... For Ubuntu you want the LTS (long term support) as it's the most stable and polished of the distro. It has 5 years of guaranteed updates and support. Some of the bleeding edge distros are and can be problematic..

Good luck but I still think you gave up way to early on Win 10 and I think it's a mistake to not at least try Ubuntu for a week or so before deciding it was to challenging...

Isn't Ubuntu about to lose it's great interface soon or something? Unity? If that happens, then what for the non tinkerer? I might try it but if someone does buy the TP then it'd be a hassle not having the genuine Win10 OEM install with original utilities etc on it from Lenovo.

But it's about much more than that.. I'm sort of fed up with laptops as a form factor. Even a MacBook at this stage! When I'm on the iPad, if someone in the room asks me to do something, it's so much easier to get up and do it. Whereas I tend to be irate about being disturbed from the Mac! It's just not as flexible for life duties around itself. The iPad's like my phone. Hit the lock button, put it down and when I come back its literally waiting where I left it. It's all in the mind. But to me, it seems to matter.

MIGHT do a live install or virtual install of Ubuntu on the ThinkPad this week.

We've started a little DIY business and managing it is taking up a lot of time which is time consuming, tiring but fun. The iPad fits in well at managing it! I've found the ThinkPad gathering dust. I only had it out last Monday to watch WWDC on the Chromecast! Which, btw, on Edge wouldn't work.. just their "it will be live at 10am" message the ENTIRE way through as I sat watching it on the iPad which worked fine. Sigh.

 

[raqball]

Isn't Ubuntu about to lose it's great interface soon or something? Unity? If that happens, then what for the non tinkerer? I might try it but if someone does buy the TP then it'd be a hassle not having the genuine Win10 OEM install with original utilities etc on it from Lenovo.

But it's about much more than that.. I'm sort of fed up with laptops as a form factor. Even a MacBook at this stage! When I'm on the iPad, if someone in the room asks me to do something, it's so much easier to get up and do it. Whereas I tend to be irate about being disturbed from the Mac! It's just not as flexible for life duties around itself. The iPad's like my phone. Hit the lock button, put it down and when I come back its literally waiting where I left it. It's all in the mind. But to me, it seems to matter.

MIGHT do a live install or virtual install of Ubuntu on the ThinkPad this week.

We've started a little DIY business and managing it is taking up a lot of time which is time consuming, tiring but fun. The iPad fits in well at managing it! I've found the ThinkPad gathering dust. I only had it out last Monday to watch WWDC on the Chromecast! Which, btw, on Edge wouldn't work.. just their "it will be live at 10am" message the ENTIRE way through as I sat watching it on the iPad which worked fine. Sigh.

Unity is fine in my opinion and I don't know why it got so much hate.. With Linux you have so many options though. MATE, GNOME, KDE ect.. They all have a GUI and basically function the same. Spend a little time getting everything the way you want it to look then you never have to touch it again. MacOS is no different as it initially needs to be set up and configured to the users preference.. As far as what Unity going away means for the non tinker... It means nothing really...

If you are content with using the iPad as a PC then there is nothing wrong with that.. It's actually what Apple would prefer people to do.. And as previously stated my son uses his Android tablet as his main PC.. If you can make due with the limitations that come with a mobileOS then awesome. I could not but that's just me...

 

[0989383]

Unity is fine in my opinion and I don't know why it got so much hate.. With Linux you have so many options though. MATE, GNOME, KDE ect.. They all have a GUI and basically function the same. Spend a little time getting everything the way you want it to look then you never have to touch it again. MacOS is no different as it initially needs to be set up and configured to the users preference.. As far as what Unity going away means for the non tinker... It means nothing really...

If you are content with using the iPad as a PC then there is nothing wrong with that.. It's actually what Apple would prefer people to do.. And as previously stated my son uses his Android tablet as his main PC.. If you can make due with the limitations that come with a mobileOS then awesome. I could not but that's just me...

I think Apple has made it a whole lot easier now with iOS 11. And I have confidence that iOS 12+ will continue that. Of course, even if Apple wanted to increase the speed there's no denying that it'll take years of more powerful hardware releases, whilst retaining an easy and attractive GUI and things like the 10 hour battery life along the way. Eventually, when this catches up with PCs, I think it'll be superior. But of course, that's a LONG way off.

Surprisingly nobody has replied to my ThinkPad for sale thread! Though then again.. this is a Mac forum

 

[macjunk(ie)]

I think Apple has made it a whole lot easier now with iOS 11. And I have confidence that iOS 12+ will continue that. Of course, even if Apple wanted to increase the speed there's no denying that it'll take years of more powerful hardware releases, whilst retaining an easy and attractive GUI and things like the 10 hour battery life along the way. Eventually, when this catches up with PCs, I think it'll be superior. But of course, that's a LONG way off.

Surprisingly nobody has replied to my ThinkPad for sale thread! Though then again.. this is a Mac forum

Mac forum and the fact that resale of win laptops are not that great to begin with. So many fish in the sea.

The distortion field is very real mate. Lived in it the past decade. The new MBPs jolted me out of it. For your use case, if the iPad fits the bill...then yeah it makes sense. After all, I don't deny that it is the best tablet ....period. Otherwise, everything raqball said. It is the exact thought process I have.

Now that you have decided to use the iPad, if possible, do not rely on apple apps. Use cross platform apps. For example, instead of Notes, use OneNote. I say this because, in the future, if Windows or Linux does become palatable, then it should be easy for you to switch.

 

[raqball]

Here is a screenshot of my Ubuntu GNOME 16.04.2 desktop.. This is straight up GNOME (non Unity)

Look MacOS enough for you @SB-MBP ?

 

[Queen6]

I think the OP is neck deep in Apple's distortion field...lost cause No offense OP.
Win and Linux are not bad at all. I know plenty of professionals who make boatloads of money working on these platforms. So, these platforms cannot suck so much. The only reason why we can't use these platforms in our lives is because we don't want to.

Very much agree: I can be productive on most platforms, equally I will always defer to the hardware & software solution that serves me best. My latest Windows 10 system has proved to be the most productive to date, paying for itself instantly in part due to the flexibility and usability of the hardware & OS...

Q-6

 

[0989383]

Here is a screenshot of my Ubuntu GNOME 16.04.2 desktop.. This is straight up GNOME (non Unity)

Look MacOS enough for you @SB-MBP ?

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HOW?! I must try this today before it sells.

 

[macjunk(ie)]

HOW?! I must try this today before it sells.

also try elementary os if you are after the Mac look

 

[0989383]

I'm now running Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS... this looks different to the 'orangy background' Ubuntu I had on my old Mac via Parallels. Is this due to the dropping of unity?

Also, the startup is quite rough looking.. How do I fix that?

Completely nuked Windows 10. It is no more.

 

[raqball]

I assume you downloaded Unity? That's the standard Unity background.. You can change it to whatever you want..

Not sure what you mean by startup look rough?

You should have done a dual boot.. Did you make a restore USB before nuking Windows?

If you want GNOME like in the screenshots I posted above then uses this ISO

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-gnome/releases/16.04.2/release/

 

[0989383]

Well, I screwed around with Linux for a while (Ubuntu latest stable release from their site) and nuked Windows (so Linux only) and meh. Not as impressive as it looked and I found most things I tried to achieve didn't work. Particularly the lack of scaling in settings etc and tiny text on the ThinkPad's 1080p screen.

Windows is back on it now and trying to install everything again.. not sure right now whether to keep it or not.

 

[raqball]

Well, I screwed around with Linux for a while (Ubuntu latest stable release from their site) and nuked Windows (so Linux only) and meh. Not as impressive as it looked and I found most things I tried to achieve didn't work. Particularly the lack of scaling in settings etc and tiny text on the ThinkPad's 1080p screen.

Windows is back on it now and trying to install everything again.. not sure right now whether to keep it or not.

You are not even giving anything a chance so that tells me your mind is already made up before hand. At this point I'd say just stick with what you've been saying all along.. Sell the ThinkPad and use an iPad. It does not matter what you try at this point because it appears your mind is already made up.

Had you given Linux more than 5 minutes of time, you might have actually like it. Fonts and scaling are very, very, very easily fixed..

 

[0989383]

I'm quite aware of what Linux is and I know it's not bad by any account, but I can't see it doing as smooth a job as the Mac any better than Windows. At least Windows works with a lot of things: programmes, games etc. Even if it is a lousy experience.

I've sat on this ThinkPad all morning trying to come to a final decision. It's a stunning, beautifully designed piece of hardware in my eyes. The specs are perfect. The design and feel of it is just excellent. I really don't want to part with the device. It's just Windows!!! It IS that bad in my eyes. And I'll stop complaining without giving good reason. Here's todays complaints alone...

Crappy recovery method.. had to use a friends Mac to actually burn a bootable Windows disk to reinstall it.. on the Mac, a hard wired online recovery option is there.. Would it kill Microsoft to adopt something like that?..

I get Windows installed again.. ages and ages of waiting screens. Then this Cortana crap, constantly trying to BS me into letting them stalk me and track me.. Hiding the offline account option. Fair enough, I sign in this time.

Have to go to Lenovo's site to redownload drivers.. before I can run their Companion app .net frameworks, and other plugins.. multiple restarts. THEN, tonnes of updates / drivers / CRAPWARE that Lenovo don't need to.. but choose to provide..

Trying to reinstall all the software I use. Yet the downloader is plagues with downloading things like 'drawPDF' and 'Candy Crush' etc.. Why the hell do I need it? It's slowing down the installation of what I actually want to install.

Constant crap from Cortana about access to the mic.. notifications about OneDrive regardless of the fact I didn't opt to use it. Windows Defender telling me my computer is at risk because I have full brightness on.

Try to do an initial backup onto my 500GB external hard drive. At about 72% every time it says 'Backup failed.' and no explanation or next step.

I installed Office. Now I have two versions of Skype and OneNote - one useful, great apps as part of Office 365.. the other some dumb, laggy and unstable touch based app - the crappy ones can't be uninstalled. When you do uninstall them via PowerShell.. they're back within two weeks.

You know, every time I TRY to love Windows and use this computer I'm bitterly disappointed. I know you guys think I'm just some idiot who buys things, gives them 5 minutes and dismisses them as the worst but that's totally not the case here. I've tried to get used to Windows, but it's always reminding me of how hopeless it is vs. my memories of the Mac.

The iPad is far from a perfect desktop replacement. But at least what it does do for me, it does well. As much as I like having the niche desktop class apps like Handbrake, Torrent downloading etc it's all just a joke on Windows 10.

This beautiful keyboard which is sheer pleasure to type on - even vs. a 2016 MBP w/TB - the nice, clear 1080p antiglare screen and cool fingerprint reader for login is all to waste with Windows 10.

Windows 10: It just about, in the end, after workarounds, does the job. Sometimes well, most of the time satisfactorily.

To anyone out there with a Mac who is feeling 'bored' or like Windows is their next device choice.. PLEASE READ THIS WITH CARE. You'll regret it. So much. It's fine if you have the choice of both, but far off fields appear greener than they are and Windows is NOT up to the standard expected by the Mac user.

Hence why I'm committing to selling this, hopefully making a minimal loss and never envying a single Windows user again. Not with a Surface Book. Not with a Dell XPS. Not with an HP Envy or X1 Carbon. I can only imagine it's like owning a Lamborghini without the ability to drive.. sure you've got it all but I feel like I'd have to be deluded to pretend it is a good experience.

 

[raqball]

Your posts are utterly confusing...

On one hand you say Windows is not bad then you warn people to not use it.. Next you say you know Linux but if you did, then you'd see it is one of the most powerful OS's on the planet.

I don't get this entire thread. It's almost like it was a setup to bash other OS's....

Of course the Windows recovery partition was gone.. You said you nuked it. What did you expect? My only piece of advise is if you every try again make sure you know what you are doing before hand. Nuking Windows was not a smart idea unless you were 110% sure you wanted a Linux only machine.. A dual boot would have been the best option and it literally takes about 30 seconds to do it.

Right click Start >> Select Disk Management >> Select Drive >> Select Shrink.... DONE!

And for what it's worth, nuking a Mac HD would have left you in the same boat... No difference whatsoever..

Slamming Windows and Linux and telling others to avoid it is ridiculous.. I am using both and they both do everything MacOS does and then some in certain instances...

Your mind was made up, you gave neither OS a chance and instead of just going back to the iPad and calling it a day you decided to attack the other OS's.. Look, they are not for everyone and I've said that repeatedly in this thread. Anyways, this thread has ran it's course so I am out.. If you ever want to try Linux again give me a shout. I have a degree in Computer Science so maybe I can help you out..

Peace!

 

[0989383]

Your posts are utterly confusing...

On one hand you say Windows is not bad then you warn people to not use it.. Next you say you know Linux but if you did, then you'd see it is one of the most powerful OS's on the planet.

I don't get this entire thread. It's almost like it was a setup to bash other OS's....

Of course the Windows recovery partition was gone.. You said you nuked it. What did you expect? My only piece of advise is if you every try again make sure you know what you are doing before hand. Nuking Windows was not a smart idea unless you were 110% sure you wanted a Linux only machine.. A dual boot would have been the best option and it literally takes about 30 seconds to do it.

Right click Start >> Select Disk Management >> Select Drive >> Select Shrink.... DONE!

Slamming Windows and Linux and telling others to avoid it is ridiculous.. I am using both and they both do everything MacOS does and then some in certain instances...

Your mind was made up, you gave neither OS a chance and instead of just going back to the iPad and calling it a day you decided to attack the other OS's.. Look, they are not for everyone. I've said repeatedly in this thread. Anyways, this thread has ran it's course so I am out.. If you every want to try Linux again give me a shout. I have a degree in Computer Science and can maybe help you out..

Peace!

I'm saying I'm aware that Linux is powerful, and can be great. It's just not for me, personally. I don't urge anyone to avoid Linux, I'm just saying thanks for recommending it and having tried it I think it's not for me.

I urge current Mac users such as our friends on this forum not to make the switch - that's if they have the choice. Because the Mac simply works. And in my opinion that's not too much to ask. I have repeatedly said, yes Windows does the job. Just not a good one.

This thread was me basically saying "Screw Apple and their policies, I'm moving on to Windows". Then me having got the TP, being impressed. Windows doing a great job having had my stuff setup on it. And then I responded again to let people know "look, this is going terrible, nothing works". So yes, many different viewpoints over the space of almost two months but anyone reading through may avoid making the mistake I did. Others might take your view that I'm an idiot, which they're entitled to do so as well.

Yes, I know I nuked it. I do know what I'm doing when it comes to disk management and that jazz. Hence how I'm now back up in running a few hours later. I still think in 2017 Microsoft could implement a better option for users. It seems to me if they kept the same interface of say Windows 7 that people liked and actually polished the edges like Apple it'd be much easier for me to say 'Ditch Apple, Save Money' but as of today it comes as a cost to the user experience.

Look, I wanted to love Windows. But it's just how it went, this computer was gathering dust a month in for an iPad, and I feel like it's important to share the experience with other users. It's not cheap and you normally always lose when buying and selling tech. If they can avoid the hassle and loss I'll be happy for this thread.

It'll also serve me well if I ever wonder back to the thought of Windows.. But if you take one point, then it's that Windows isn't for me. And I think it sort of sucks (Windows) which it may or may not at large, but it is my opinion and can be wrong but it's definitely my opinion based on the whole ordeal.

I appreciate you and everyone elses input. Even if it is different to mine I appreciate joining me on this journey!

 

[raqball]

MacOS does not work as simply as you make it sound.. It requires just as much effort as Windows 10 and MacOS has it's own set of problems just as Windows and Linux does... Linux, once setup properly, is error and trouble free for the most part if you are using an LTS version..

Had you not nuked Windows and if you had did a dual boot, you would have been back up and running in about 5 minutes with Ubuntu removed, the disk space reclaimed and GRUB removed..