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Lord Blackadder

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Interested to see how she does with USA. The squad are world champion material so expectations will be high and fans will be eager to see improvement after a bad World Cup.
 
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laptech

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Just for context, on interviews she gave on the day she said she was quitting she said she was moving away from football to start a new venture that would allow her to spend more time with her family. The problem is the media have been very quick to amend their original articles to show she that she was interested in the USA women's soccer job. She obviously changed her mind very very quickly of which she is entitled to do.
 

daneoni

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Tbf International Football allows for this, since you're not constantly 'on duty' like club football.

She doesn't have to work as much, gets to work with a decent squad, and gets paid significantly more.
 

laptech

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Tbf International Football allows for this, since you're not constantly 'on duty' like club football.

She doesn't have to work as much, gets to work with a decent squad, and gets paid significantly more.
In my opinion, the USA team was only 'decent' because of the serious lack of quality opposition they faced because the USA team have been professional for many many years whereas some of the other countries have gone professional within the last 2-3 years but the majority are still part time armatures/semi pro.

4 years is a long time between World cups and the recent world cup proved this. The women's game had moved fast and no longer are the US team dominant as they once were because they are now facing other women's teams who are just as good and if not better than the USA team. The women's international scene has become a lot lot more competitive. The USA team does have some very talented players but Emma Hayes is going to find it tough because whereas in the past the USA would dominate due to the lack of quality in the opposition the were facing, this is no longer the case. The European teams are getting stronger, Japan has always been strong, Australia getting stronger as are many of the African teams. All teams that the USA once dominated over but not anymore. Naturally Ms Hayes will relish the opportunity of being USA manager but it is not going to be easy for her in my opinion.
 

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In my opinion, the USA team was only 'decent' because of the serious lack of quality opposition they faced because the USA team have been professional for many many years whereas some of the other countries have gone professional within the last 2-3 years but the majority are still part time armatures/semi pro.

4 years is a long time between World cups and the recent world cup proved this. The women's game had moved fast and no longer are the US team dominant as they once were because they are now facing other women's teams who are just as good and if not better than the USA team. The women's international scene has become a lot lot more competitive. The USA team does have some very talented players but Emma Hayes is going to find it tough because whereas in the past the USA would dominate due to the lack of quality in the opposition the were facing, this is no longer the case. The European teams are getting stronger, Japan has always been strong, Australia getting stronger as are many of the African teams. All teams that the USA once dominated over but not anymore. Naturally Ms Hayes will relish the opportunity of being USA manager but it is not going to be easy for her in my opinion.

Agreed.

Where you at @Lioness~ ...?
 

daneoni

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Manchester City have posted a Premier League record revenue of £712.8m for the 2022-23 financial year

Man City bragging about profits has some sort of comical yet sad irony to it.
 

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Manchester City have posted a Premier League record revenue of £712.8m for the 2022-23 financial year

Man City bragging about profits has some sort of comical yet sad irony to it.
Well, once judgment is delivered in the (many) charges re breaches of FFP that they are facing (100 plus, if memory serves) their profits might take a slight hit, as a consequence of penalties and fines.
 

Lord Blackadder

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In my opinion, the USA team was only 'decent' because of the serious lack of quality opposition they faced because the USA team have been professional for many many years whereas some of the other countries have gone professional within the last 2-3 years but the majority are still part time armatures/semi pro.

Them's fightin' words, my friend!;)

The argument that the overall women's game has massively improved is completely valid, as is the point that USA have been a dominant team partially because they were among the first to really professionalize the national team and take advantage of top-quality facilities and training programs. They've never had better opposition than now.

But I disagree on two points. First, USA have not been 'decent' over the last several decades - they have been dominant. Big difference. I needn't cite the thousands of published journalistic and pundit discussions of how good the USA team has been, measured objectively by people who know what they are talking about. These aren't several generations of scrubs put in fancy uniforms and through a training montage. These are genuinely world-class players under elite-level coaches. American players are regularly playing key roles in European professional teams as well.

Second, USA are not going to fade from the top in the women's game. A far, far greater proportion of The US's top female athletes find their way into football compared with men who are drawn towards the incredibly lucrative and traditionally dominant worlds of other sports. The women's team will, for the foreseeable future, continue to paint a more accurate picture of the USA's potential place in world football for both sexes if the elite segment of the overall talent pool was being channeled into football rather than NFL, baseball, basketball, and so on.

USA probably won't be dominating the game as they once did now that other top football countries are, at long last, taking the women's game seriously. But those who assume that USA is now going to be an also-ran in football are seriously underestimating the talent pool and potential. In the men's game other sports will always hold us back from where we could be if we took the sport as seriously as Germany or Brazil, but not so in women's football.

Manchester City have posted a Premier League record revenue of £712.8m for the 2022-23 financial year

Man City bragging about profits has some sort of comical yet sad irony to it.

Record revenue, maybe, but we all know they've been losing money on this project all along. The only purpose of revenue to Man City is as a little fig leaf to (inadequately) cover their financial doping activities.

This is what makes state clubs (and oligarch-run) clubs different and worse than everyone else - in a footballing world awash with money, they are not in it for profit. The clubs trying to make money, as greedy as they are, have some rational limiting factor to their behavior. State clubs have none.
 

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Just found it ludicrous that a club that boasts a squad worth over a billion, pays some of the highest salaries in the country and has used shell companies to funnel inordinate amounts of money into the club and its facilities is boasting about positive revenue across all branches.

And then the Chairman starts pontificating about philosophies and financial wellbeing for the future

Reminds me of Rishi Sunak pumping petrol into a car that wasn't his and talking about fuel duty in order to come across as normal/relatable. Conveniently ignoring the fact that he's worth £730m and his party has overseen the worst economic climate in recent history.

And Infantino trying to defend selling out to Qatar with his laughable speech.

Its nauseating when wealthy individuals and/or states+politicians try to patronise the public with meaningless gestures that anyone with any semblance of critical thinking can see from a mile away

Anyway back to football, referees deny Chelsea Women a win against Real Madrid in the Champions League.

Richard Arnold set to leave Utd as Ratcliffe era looms
 
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laptech

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Football clubs have become the toys of rich kids and there are two types of football rich kids, those that want to see their toys improve, to become better which makes their toy become even better than it originally was and then there are those that suck the toy dry, get as much as they can out of it and then get rid of it once it's usefulness becomes no more and in United's case that is exactly what has happened. A controversial issue that has been pointed out about the Glazers is that they have not invested a dime of their own money into the club, it's all come from debt. Neither has the Glazers invested in the area around the ground. All they have done is suck the club dry and allowed it to fall into disrepair. Now they need urgent investment because it is a statement of fact that the football ground needs repairs. Ground going fans have reported time and time again seeing large cracks and splits forming in concrete walls and other areas of the ground. Seats falling apart, support barriers coming lose from their foundations. This is something the club owners should have addressed but they have failed to do so because as I said, the Glazers have not put a dime of their own money into the club.

With Sir Ratcliffe investing in to the club it has been mentioned by the press that his investment will help pay for much needed repairs to the ground, again the Glazers making sure they continue to not spend their own money on the club. The Glazers have shown the world how a parasitic club owner operates whereas for all their faults the Man City owners have shown the world how a club owner should run their club. They have invested in the ground, their training ground and the area surrounding the ground. They have invested in the City with various enterprises linked to the club. I have no doubt the Newcastle owners will do the same. Granted it will take years but the end results will be worth it. That is unless they behave like the Glazers, take take take, run the club into the ground then try to get out when they can.

Is this what ever football fan is now aspiring to? wanting their club to be taken over by mega rich owners?
 
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Football clubs have become the toys of rich kids and there are two types of football rich kids, those that want to see their toys improve, to become better which makes their toy become even better than it originally was and then there are those that suck the toy dry, get as much as they can out of it and then get rid of it once it's usefulness becomes no more and in United's case that is exactly what has happened.
Hmm. Much is made of the Glazers' lack of genuine love for the club, but billions has been invested, just not very wisely. The Utd board are the guilty ones here. Blaming the Glazers is just obfuscation for the fact that the board is a bunch of dinosaurs living in the past whilst football has moved on (we've done this before, of course...). But whilst Bacon F... Alex Ferguson sits on that board, nothing will change. May he reign for a very long time.... 🤣

The Glazers have shown the world how a parasitic club owner operates whereas for all their faults the Man City owners have shown the world how a club owner should run their club.
A rather important fact you're missing out here, is that City are owned effectively by the UAE 'state', as a vehicle for money laundering via the recent phenomenon of 'sportswashing'. The UAE is not a place where human rights are upheld much. A lot of the money flowing through the UAE is extremely dodgy. Using that money is not he way to run a football club. But, money talks, and human rights are often ignored.
 

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Chelsea's women can justly feel aggreieved after last night's game; with all the furore surrounding VAR, it was the lack thereof that contributed to an injustice. A penalty that wasn't, and a perfectly good goal ruled offside.
 

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Is this what ever football fan is now aspiring to? wanting their club to be taken over by mega rich owners?
If it allows them to compete with the City, PSGs, and Real then i would assume so.

Aren't Spurs already batting their eyes at Sheikh Jassim.
 
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Alphazoid

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Arsenal fan's, do you agree with this assessment of your ex-transfer chief being called a 'master con man' by Ajax's new CEO?

Didn't have a problem with him per se. He got us Mkhitaryan and Aubameyang who won us a trophy and was incredible until he signed the bumper deal.

Don't think you can be considered a conman if you're associated with signing Lewandowski, Aubameyang, Kgawa, Hummels etc. Although i get the point given his 35% stake controversy with an Ajax player.

Raul Sanllehi was the red flag for spending £72m on Nicholas Pepe, our biggest waste of money in recent memory. And then having the cheek to criticise the current transfer model compared to his old one.

...well Havertz pending...
 
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laptech

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OOoooeeerrr!!! Arsenal have stirred up a hornets nest with their defending of their manager over comments he made over officiating of the game they lost to Newcastle. According to the article the FA are planning to bring in a rule that punishes clubs for defending their manager if the manager speaks out against officiating at games.

 

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Agreed.

Where you at @Lioness~ ...?
Somewhere around....at times 😉

Been busy 'football-wise' with the 'bad' Men's team we have in Sweden. That got spanked by Azerbaijan with 3-0. Totally horrible to say the least. Not bad players but with a lousy national team captain. I hope he resigns immediately so the team can get better with someone else. The Swedish guys have a lot of individual good players, but they are no team and that depends on the lack of qualities from Janne Andersson.

When it comes to Women's football we have games at December 1th, Switzerland, and 5th Spain again, and we need to win them both!

Good for US that they got a new Team Leader, they need it 😁
US is a bigger individualistic team, but probably don't have enough of the team spirit so the team could continue to grow well as a team, so they have come behind somewhat in growth. Hope Lindsey Horan can improve it.

From my point of view the biggest difference between Women's and Men's football is that in Women's
football the team atmosphere is much more important. Women are just more sensitive about it in general. Earlier on the Women's football teams tried to overcome that as a weakness, and the bigger ego players were more important. The very skilful players are different today, they don't try to enhance their ego's so much in women's team, as they did earlier. They are more confident together.

There's most certainly a lot of individualistic players in Women's football that play big roles in their teams too. But the importance of team feeling are bigger for how the women's team are working, even for the big stars in the teams.
Sweden's women have been very successful in creating a great team spirit - it has never been better.
Comparing to the male team, it's like night and day.
 

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Everton have been given a 10-point deduction for financial irregularities or whatever it is. As a Liverpool fan, I think this is very unfair as it's not like they've had any sort of advantage as a result. It just penalises the players and fans, whilst the real culprits get off scot free.
 
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laptech

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As expected Everton got a points reduction


What is interesting to note is a line in the statement they released to the media

"The club will also monitor with great interest the decisions made in any other cases concerning the Premier League's profit and sustainability rules."

Which seems to be a direct reference to Man City and their pending premier league charges.
 

laptech

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Wonder where CIty's point deduction is
This is the reason why. Man City are challenging the legality of the investigation that is going on against them which as a result is dragging out the investigation. It could take years before the case ends up in court, especially if City keep on making legal appeals at every turn.

 
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