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I was being sarcastic. But the more I think about it, the more sensible it seems. However, I can talk down the price of the GLS550. Not sure if you can with an AMG. Going to take a gander on MercWorld tomorrow before heading into work.
 

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Looks like Elon Musk is already back tracking from the original deadlines. What a mess the Model 3 launch is going to be...

http://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/elon-musk-says-production-deadline-for-model-3-impossible/

Elon Musk says production deadline for Model 3 'impossible'


After setting a production deadline for the new, affordable Model 3 of July 1, 2017, during the company's earnings call today, Tesla CEO Elon Musk admitted that supply issues would make that date impossible. Likening the production date to a term paper deadline, Musk said it was important to set the date, but the company was highly unlikely to develop the supply chain for Model 3 parts in time.

Tesla showed off the prototype Model 3 during an event on April 1, noting the car's $35,000 base price and range of over 215 miles. After showing the car, Tesla began taking preorders at $1,000 each. In one week, Tesla logged 325,000 preorders.

Musk said that the Model 3 was designed to be much less complicated to manufacture than the Model S and Model X. However, the process of developing the parts necessary from suppliers and integrating them into the line would set actual production back. If any of its suppliers failed to meet expectations, Musk said that Tesla would begin fabricating the parts itself at its Fremont factory.

Estimating initial production at 100,00 to 200,000 for the Model 3 in 2017, Musk said that Tesla would be producing 500,000 cars a year in 2018.

Noting that producing cars in California and shipping them all over the world was inefficient, Musk suggested Tesla might set up factories in Europe and China, but only after maximizing production out of its Fremont plant.
 

iLog.Genius

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Looks like Elon Musk is already back tracking from the original deadlines. What a mess the Model 3 launch is going to be...

http://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/elon-musk-says-production-deadline-for-model-3-impossible/

Elon Musk says production deadline for Model 3 'impossible'

Tesla owners knew this could be a possibility and some are likely content but I would hate to be one of those at the end of the 300,000 production number. How many 3's does Tesla figure they can churn out once production is fully ramped up? How long would one have to realistically wait if they are one of the last orders?

Sorry, but the 3 is nothing special for me to want to wait a year, maybe two for. This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. As much as I love Musk and what he has done for electric cars, Tesla's infrastructure pales in comparison to other manufacturers, as it should be. But that alone would be enough for me not to consider a Tesla if I have to wait 1 or 2 years for.
 

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As much as I love Musk and what he has done for electric cars, Tesla's infrastructure pales in comparison to other manufacturers, as it should be. But that alone would be enough for me not to consider a Tesla if I have to wait 1 or 2 years for.
This is the perfect opening for the established OEMs to come out with a compelling line of EVs. There is an Audi EV SUV coming to go up against the Model X. Porsche is making a Model S competitor. Can't wait to see what the big dogs end up doing.

EV will not be profitable until we see Toyota/VAG/Ford/Honda/FCA/etc in on the action.
 

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The Model S isn't that attractive and the interior leaves a lot to be desired, even when optioned out. I don't think I'll ever purchase an all electric vehicle. Even when municipal water and power, it's still quite expensive to use one here in SoCal IF you drive a lot. But for a weekend car? Not bad. I think one would be fun as a convertible or something of that nature so you could take the family driving in the country or a nice scenic route. Take in nature if you will.
 

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Truecar.com is the closest to that.

I wouldn't suggest filling out your information after you get a quote though. You will keep getting spammed by dealerships around you. Haha

I don't even think you can do that anymore without subjecting yourself to harassment. I don't remember the details, but there was a big stink about it on Vortex where TrueCar in no uncertain terms came out and said they were a friend to the dealers, not to the consumers.

F TrueCar, the deals were always easy to beat with minimal negotiations anyway IME.
 
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F TrueCar, the deals were always easy to beat with minimal negotiations anyway IME.

That's true. If you don't like bargaining, then I guess Truecar is a pretty decent resource.

It's weird how TC has no pricing for certain brands in my region. No Audi or Porsche TC dealers.
 
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That's true. If you don't like bargaining, then I guess Truecar is a pretty decent resource.

It's weird how TC has no pricing for certain brands in my region. No Audi or Porsche TC dealers.
There were a few posts in the Reddit askcarsales section where some dealer employees mentioned more and more dealers and dropping TC as they are finding it is just not making them any money and is nothing but a hassle.

There was a post I think on Autoblog (not sure on that) where TC had some new very draconian terms that really favored TC and worked against the dealers, so that caused some dealers to drop them. I believe the issue was TC wanted the dealers to turn over their sales prices to TC on all sales, not just those on TC deals, and the dealers balked.
 
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I have a new 2016 ES 350. I'm so happy with this car. :D Thanks everyone for your help.
 

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I'm really fighting against selling my soul to the Prince of Darkness.

A local shop that specializes in restoration and does a LOT of British sports cars has a sorry looking MGB out front. It's a '76 I think, which means that it has rubber bumpers, sits on stilts, and has the much-maligned Zenith-Stromberg carburetor.

It's partially disassembled but is all there and at least is a "roller." In fact, when the shop owner popped the hood(or bonnet, properly) my eyes gravitated toward the driver side of the engine bay to see the carb type(and therefore have an idea of what year it was) only to just see an empty hole in the intake. The single empty hole was key, though, and I immediately spotted a Z-S lying next to the other side of the engine.

From what I could see of it, I could probably have it running and driveable in a(long) day of work or over the weekend-the engine is free and has good compression, so would likely start with the carb being refitted and a tune-up. The pedal box is empty, but it has both a functional combo brake booster/master cylinder and a new-in-box clutch master(I have another new clutch master sitting in my parts area, although it's tagged for my '70). For $1300, it could be mine INCLUDING a factory hard top.

Part of me is tempted for a couple of reasons. For one thing, between the hard top and the rubber bumpers, it would be a car that I don't have to be as careful with as my 1970. For another, I could actually take the time to build a performance engine and have some FUN with the car. The simplest option and probably overall the cheapest is to fit a Moss Supercharger kit. The low-compression factory engine should respond well to it, and since it is low compression I wouldn't have to worry as much about installing the optional small diameter, high boost pulley on the SC.

The last thing I need is another car, as even one running and driveable MG is enough to keep me busy :)

I hope you all don't mind my rambling about the MG on here-even though it's not fast or luxurious, it is 100% pure fun. When it's running well, it FEELS a lot faster than it actually is, plus is quite nimble for a 1960s design. As the old saying goes, it's more fun to drive a slow car fast than a fast car slow :) .
 

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My dad just got a 2003 Ford Taurus for $150 and it has 91k miles on it. It was owned by an older lady who developed schizophrenia and it sat for 3 years. All it needs is a little suspension work and possibly a muffler, and it’s totally driveable. It runs and drives now, but my dad is gonna do the suspension work first.
 

JamesMike

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My dad just got a 2003 Ford Taurus for $150 and it has 91k miles on it. It was owned by an older lady who developed schizophrenia and it sat for 3 years. All it needs is a little suspension work and possibly a muffler, and it’s totally driveable. It runs and drives now, but my dad is gonna do the suspension work first.

Sounds like a good deal, let us know how the repairs go.
 

A.Goldberg

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My dad just got a 2003 Ford Taurus for $150 and it has 91k miles on it. It was owned by an older lady who developed schizophrenia and it sat for 3 years. All it needs is a little suspension work and possibly a muffler, and it’s totally driveable. It runs and drives now, but my dad is gonna do the suspension work first.

Wow, that's cheap. Basically if it rolls it should be worth at least $500. Running $1000-2000. New car prices have increased dramatically, so used car prices are up. Sounds like you got a good deal, assuming it's not entirely screwed up from 3 years of sitting.
 
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Wow, that's cheap. Basically if it rolls it should be worth at least $500. Running $1000-2000. New car prices have increased dramatically, so used car prices are up. Sounds like you got a good deal, assuming it's not entirely screwed up from 3 years of sitting.

It runs and drives perfectly! It just needs some spring work before its safe to drive. I spent the entire day yesterday cleaning it out, top to bottom. Needless to say, i am in love with this car. It makes me really sad it's not mine. The interior is really clean too. Sorry for the crappy pics haha
 

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It runs and drives perfectly! It just needs some spring work before its safe to drive. I spent the entire day yesterday cleaning it out, top to bottom. Needless to say, i am in love with this car. It makes me really sad it's not mine. The interior is really clean too. Sorry for the crappy pics haha
That's in pretty nice shape for its age. Nice find.

P.S. Do you really have some Snap On tools... or just the sign? :p:D (jealous here)
 
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That's in pretty nice shape for its age. Nice find.

P.S. Do you really have some Snap On tools... or just the sign? :p:D (jealous here)

My dad does yes, he is a certified mechanic, and has well over $15,000 in Snap-On tools aswell as a giant Snap-On tool box that is extremely heavy lol
 
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AustinIllini

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More S2000 rumors

Rumor: Honda to Celebrate Its 70th Anniversary with New S2000 Roadster

Talk of a new Honda sports car will not die. Although we now know that the tiny S660 roadster will not come to America, and a speculated mid-engine sports car positioned below the Acura NSX is probably not happening, the prospect of a reborn S2000 roadster is gaining steam. And it could arrive in 2018, as the company’s present to itself for its 70th anniversary.

There’s a certain symmetry to that, considering that Honda first launched the S2000 in 1998, to celebrate its 50th anniversary. For the 70th, we could be looking at both a new car and a commemorative two-wheeler, as well. “Based on the company’s MotoGP contender, the bike will be a detuned, roadgoing version of the RC213V-S,” says our source. “As for the car, expect something special. Size-wise, it’ll be similar to the Mazda MX-5 Miata, but the Honda will have a lot more power.”

Skeptics may note that Honda does not have a platform for a compact, rear-wheel-drive sports car. But our insider tells us to not overlook what the company has done with its S660 mini-coupe and the all-new NSX supercar. “Both those coupes have unique, dedicated platforms, right?” he says. Spot on.

His statement reminded us of a comment made by one Acura executive at the 2014 Detroit auto show. When asked if Honda were planning a smaller sports car to slot in under the NSX, the executive nodded and said he does want such a car, but that it would not appear before 2017.

One more snippet that points to a new sports car is Acura’s Precision concept unveiled at this year’s Detroit show. Sitting on a dedicated rear-drive platform, this look into the near future hinted at a coupe powered by a front-mounted 2.0-liter turbocharged engine with one rear-mounted motor and two front motors employing a torque-vectoring system.

The S2000 successor, which is expected to weigh less than 2900 pounds, will be powered by a slightly detuned version of the Civic Type R’s 2.0-liter turbo. That engine is made in the U.S.A.—and the car will be, too. To keep costs down, Honda has decided to build it alongside the NSX at its specialized Performance Manufacturing Center in Ohio.

"A large complement of R&D staff from Japan are already in Ohio working on the car,” says our source, adding, “They have more time now that the NSX is finished.”


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bunnspecial

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An S2000 successor would be exciting and I was very happy until I read that second to last paragraph.

I think the car needs to go on a diet if they're serious about this. Weight is detrimental in every possible way to a car in this class. Mazda has managed to keep the Miata 500lbs lighter(which, IMO, is still a couple hundred pounds too heavy, but is probably the best they can do without using exotic materials). No matter what tricks you employ with the suspension, it's hard to make a one and a half ton car behave like one that weighs a ton or less.

Although a roadster isn't all about speed, there's also the fact that using a more powerful engine than the Miata probably won't make it that much faster considering that it has an extra 500lbs of car to haul around.
 
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My dad just got a 2003 Ford Taurus for $150 and it has 91k miles on it. It was owned by an older lady who developed schizophrenia and it sat for 3 years. All it needs is a little suspension work and possibly a muffler, and it’s totally driveable. It runs and drives now, but my dad is gonna do the suspension work first.
What a badass car! Congrats on it.

I've always had a soft spot for Tauruses. Their styling is quite modern and I love the interior in them, especially the bench seats. Super comfy for road trips. I think the best part of it has the be the powerful V6.

Ugh, you got me prowling for them on Craigslist.
 
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What a badass car! Congrats on it.

I've always had a soft spot for Tauruses. Their styling is quite modern and I love the interior in them, especially the bench seats. Super comfy for road trips. I think the best part of it has the be the powerful V6.

Ugh, you got me prowling for them on Craigslist.


haha, yeah they are nice. We also have a 2010 Taurus. It's black with black leather interior. All the options.
 
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