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Neat, so one of the 6G members is a designer/3D artist, and he took details from the video (above), and worked them into viz using the S550 as a starting point (I *love* the open vents around the headlights):

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Agreed. Great looking GT 500. What are your thoughts on the new Bullit? I love the look and changes. I’m also very happy it’s Not simply not appearance like last time. Ford is saying 475hp. I’ll wager it puts 450 down at the rear wheels. The GT 350 intake and TB is a big deal. The Coyote loves to breath.
 
Agreed. Great looking GT 500. What are your thoughts on the new Bullit? I love the look and changes. I’m also very happy it’s Not simply not appearance like last time. Ford is saying 475hp. I’ll wager it puts 450 down at the rear wheels. The GT 350 intake and TB is a big deal. The Coyote loves to breath.

The new Bullitt (a terrific photo above) looks like it hits all the right beats, generally I dig on it. Design callback to the classic model, fun unique-to-the-package details, and the big one that you pointed out: a performance bump. I'm assuming the power increase will be offered across the model line, maybe initially bundled up in a "Perf Pack 3" type offering.

Yeah, the little 5.0 keeps on giving :D The MY18's are putting down around 420, and the Gen 3 I/M is showing performance just about in between the Gen 2 (15-17) and a Gen 2 + GT350 IM/TB/tune, so I'd definitely not be surprised to see it do 435-440-ish rwhp and that is pretty stout (and well over 475).
 
So the latest H2H on motortrend is out and as expected 1LE killed the PP1 GT around the track and is a drivers race in the straights.

I’m looking forward to the PP2 vs 1LE comparison. That will be a more apples vs apples comparison.
 
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But to be fair, the view inside a Mustang is better than a Camaro, not to mention the materials look better in general. There's no doubt about GM's ability to engineer an amazing engine. Given my past personal musings and knowing people personally who've owned performance variants from both brands, Chevy does a few things better and makes strides in customer experience. That and the general portfolio of Chevy's higher end offerings are a whole lot nicer than Ford's.

I've said it before, but if I were looking for a cheap commuter hybrid for around the town shopping on weekends instead of our Lexus, I'd be looking at either the Prius or the Volt. There's advantages and disadvantages to either car, but both are a better option than a Model 3. For the price Tesla is charging, their reliability record, repair and tech times, it's not worth spending $40K on a chintzy vehicle.
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Neat, so one of the 6G members is a designer/3D artist, and he took details from the video (above), and worked them into viz using the S550 as a starting point (I *love* the open vents around the headlights):

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Can't believe I missed this. That looks awesome. I definitely like the front cooling vents. How do they cool the rear discs though?
 
So the latest H2H on motortrend is out and as expected 1LE killed the PP1 GT around the track and is a drivers race in the straights.

I’m looking forward to the PP2 vs 1LE comparison. That will be a more apples vs apples comparison.

Yeah, that wasn't unexpected, 1LE != PP1, the one metric that was wild was the 1 mile top end pull, the GT went another 6MPH, maybe 1LE drag, or the Gen 3 Coyote has a _ton_ of power up top (that doesn't translate into short 0 to <whatever>). Heck, they should've put an A10 car in the mix since it's now available with the PP1.

The PP2 will be more interesting, the 1LE has way more tire (305/30-19, 325/30-19 vs. 255/40-19, 275/40-19), and other better gear vs. a PP1. The Perf Pack 2 is documented as running 3.5 seconds better than a PP1 car on Grattan, which on that 2 mile track is a ton of time.


Can't believe I missed this. That looks awesome. I definitely like the front cooling vents. How do they cool the rear discs though?

Just some directional ducts around the fender well, and the rear are in so much less need of cooling.
 
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Yeah, that wasn't unexpected, 1LE != PP1, the one metric that was wild was the 1 mile top end pull, the GT went another 6MPH, maybe 1LE drag, or the Gen 3 Coyote has a _ton_ of power up top (that doesn't translate into short 0 to <whatever>). Heck, they should've put an A10 car in the mix since it's now available with the PP1.

Probably drag( from the bigger tire and aero bits) and gearing. Once you shift into 5th gear in the Camaro, it dies acceleration wise.


Now this is a 2017 GT and have to look in the inner ring for MPH, but it does look like the GT does pull better in the higher speed range and doesn't die out after going into a higher gear.


But yeah looking forward to PP2 vs 1LE.
 
Speaking of the PP2.... First ones are arriving at dealers.

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I still consider it another blunder on Ford's part to have a track ready car and tell owners if they want to track it, they are on the hook for buying and installing aux coolers to keep the engine/trans/diff cool.... They had somewhat of an excuse with the GT350 originally as they offered a stripped down GT350 for those who just wanted that engine and didn't plan to track it. But PP2 is meant to be tracked, it's meant to go against the 1LE, why did Ford cheap out on the coolers?
 
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So I think I finally found my truck a 2015 4Runner Trail with 13,000 miles for $31K

These are really good vehicles. They have more than enough power with the 4.0 V6/5 Speed. They have plenty of off-road capabilities and they can handle just about any terrain given they don't suffer much with Towing capacity with fuel-mileage.

I'm not one that likes SUVs personally, but if I were to purchase a 4 wheel drive vehicle, it would be the 4Runner. The only thing I don't like about Toyota's in general is the Entune entertainment system. But Toyota is finally graduating to CarPlay in 2019. But even the Entune system would not shy me away from purchasing this vehicle.
 
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On Toyota: They make rock solid engines and transmissions. I know a few people with 2IS on Club Lexus who have their originals and their vehicles have been driven in excess of 130-150K miles. Not even a pump issue. Bulletproof stuff. Our dealer claims they have a customer with a 97 or 98 ES with about 500K miles on original engine and transmission. It's believable but also unbelievable. I'd have expected a rebuild by that time.

Our 2IS is fairly low mileage. Mostly because it's only driven once or twice a week at most. Not a fan of the 3IS, though. Low mileage, unadorned 1IS go for mint prices though.
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I'm not one that likes SUVs personally, but if I were to purchase a 4 wheel drive vehicle, it would be the 4Runner. The only thing I don't like about Toyota's in general is the Entune entertainment system. But Toyota is finally graduating to CarPlay in 2019. But even the Entune system would not shy me away from purchasing this vehicle.
Toyota say they will but I wouldn't hold my breath.
 
But to be fair, the view inside a Mustang is better than a Camaro, not to mention the materials look better in general. There's no doubt about GM's ability to engineer an amazing engine. Given my past personal musings and knowing people personally who've owned performance variants from both brands, Chevy does a few things better and makes strides in customer experience. That and the general portfolio of Chevy's higher end offerings are a whole lot nicer than Ford's.

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Yeah I would agree the visibility is better in the Mustang. I like the interior in the Camaro better than the Mustang. Yeah there are hard plastics, but the places where there is hard plastics looks good still and it doesn't feel cheap. Now they did drive a 1SS which has cheaper interior bits, but my 2SS interior is a nice place to be( I am curious why GM didn't provide MT with a 2SS 1LE now that you can get the 1LE package with the 2SS).

I wish I had better Ford dealer in my area( or even liked the dance you have to do in any dealer). I do want to drive the '18 GT PP1 and PP2 to see if the refresh changes my view of the Mustang. When I drove the '16 GT, neither the GT with the auto or the GT with the stick and PP spoke to me. I preferred the Camaro in almost every area. With the GT gaining MRC, active exhaust, etc wonder how the GT's personality has changed.
 
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Yeah I would agree the visibility is better in the Mustang. I like the interior in the Camaro better than the Mustang. Yeah there are hard plastics, but the places where there is hard plastics looks good still and it doesn't feel cheap. Now they did drive a 1SS which has cheaper interior bits, but my 2SS interior is a nice place to be( I am curious why GM didn't provide MT with a 2SS 1LE now that you can get the 1LE package with the 2SS).

I wish I had better Ford dealer in my area( or even liked the dance you have to do in any dealer). I do want to drive the '18 GT PP1 and PP2 to see if the refresh changes my view of the Mustang. When I drove the '16 GT, neither the GT with the auto or the GT with the stick and PP spoke to me. I preferred the Camaro in almost every area. With the GT gaining MRC, active exhaust, etc wonder how the GT's personality has changed.
They look about the same to me. The Ford OTOH just looks better and has better ergonomics. That's where it ends with a lot of their comparative vehicles. Except the Corvette. Can't touch that. For the most part, if I were looking at a large SUV, and because none of the Germans or the Japanese offer something I'd like that isn't too dated, I'd probably go with the Tahoe. The tarted up versions of the Tahoe in other GM flavors are a waste of money.

As for the dealerships. It's always been like that. They like to play hardball with customers. Dealers are effectively the town bicycle, if you get what I mean, but love to play can't touch this when it comes to selling. Which I don't understand. Though there are some good dealerships who don't play the dick measuring contest with the potential buyer. And then there's brands like Porsche who don't play around at all and make everyone welcome. Ford and GM dealerships still have the problem of hyping their cars up. E.g. Show up in an 812 and they won't pay attention unless you're willing to buy right now.

Find a good dealer(s), stick with them. Really good dealers will give nice incentives to their repeat customers, sometimes taking a 20-30K hit (105K optioned out car selling for that trim's base price, 75-85K) because said customer has bought 3-4 vehicles from them in the past 10 years and will continue to do so, and will often drop a large downpayment.
[doublepost=1516333153][/doublepost]OTOH, you could always get a Land Rover or Jaguar and be able to try out a new car every few weeks as a loaner.
 
Find a good dealer(s), stick with them. Really good dealers will give nice incentives to their repeat customers, sometimes taking a 20-30K hit (105K optioned out car selling for that trim's base price, 75-85K) because said customer has bought 3-4 vehicles from them in the past 10 years and will continue to do so, and will often drop a large downpayment.

Yeah that's the dealer I bought the Camaro from. Our family has been going to them for our vehicles since we bought our 2002 Suburban. They have treated us really well. When I drove the Camaro for the first time, we made it clear I was at least a year out from buying. They had no problem with that, handed me the keys, and let me take it alone for as long as I wanted to( I did inform them of my plans for the drive). Six months later after the first initial drive, went back to drive it again in both stick and auto( added bonus was the stick car also lacked MRC). Again let me have both cars as long as I wanted them. Two months later, the deal was worked out without too much fuss and it was ordered with nothing signed, no deposit down, etc.

Unlike the Ford dealer.... They wanted a copy of my car insurance before letting me take the GT out alone and they kept the gas tanks empty which limited my range. I was tempted to put in a few gallons myself to show them, but it just ruined the experience and I will never buy a car after being limited to a short route on a test drive.

OTOH, you could always get a Land Rover or Jaguar and be able to try out a new car every few weeks as a loaner.

Need an ambulance for that burn. :D

Which is a damn shame because I do like Jaguars. That F-Type sounds freaking awesome/mean and looks amazing with the coupe.
 
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Several sources saying it will come with a DCT. __yes__.
I can't say I agree with how the front wheel duct slit will look. I was expecting it to be like how Audi did theirs. The concept looks great but it looks like it would take away structural rigidity of the front end cover. It would be nice if Ford made a retractable lip. Something that slides in and slightly upward to avoid scrapes or cracks.

DCT sounds great. Is it the one that Ford and GM are working or worked on or is it a customized Tremec unit? I hope it isn't an evolution design of the PowerShift Getrag built for Ford. Funny how a single tranny can differ so much from another one. The Getrag units for M cars are great. Just like how the ZF8 is a great traditional auto, but the ZF9 is a mess. Even though they're OEM specced for use cases, the ZF9 is an all around loser.
 
Toyota say they will but I wouldn't hold my breath.

No, it's been confirmed by Toyota that they will be implementing CarPlay starting in 2019 with the Avalon. I don't have any experience with Entune, but for those who I do know, they don't have very many good things to say about the stability With Entune and it's lethargic user interface. CarPlay Will be appreciated starting in 2019 for those who have been waiting for Toyota to make a much-needed move, as auto manufacturers have been offering Android Auto and CarPlay for while now.

Quote from Article listed below:

"Also, Toyota informed MacRumors that its CarPlay implementation will be wired, so connecting an iPhone via USB will be required. We're also told that CarPlay will be available in select 2019 model year and beyond Lexus vehicles with its Enform 2.0 multimedia system in the United States. "


https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/15/toyota-to-support-apple-carplay/
[doublepost=1516352533][/doublepost]Had some time to see what was going on during the Barrett-Jackson auction down in Scottsdale, Arizona. It will be my goal one day to go down and visit to see some amazing cars. All I have to say is there a lot of old guys with a lot of money to spend at the auction.

Two Notably and ridiculously stunning cars sold that had my attention:

1.) 1969 Mach 1 Cobra Jet-428 CID Engine/4 Speed Full restoration sold for $70,000.

2.) 2010 Shelby (Grabber Blue) GT500 Super Snake tuned (14,726 original miles) 750 Horse supercharged, sold for $70,000.
 
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DCT sounds great. Is it the one that Ford and GM are working or worked on or is it a customized Tremec unit? I hope it isn't an evolution design of the PowerShift Getrag built for Ford. Funny how a single tranny can differ so much from another one. The Getrag units for M cars are great. Just like how the ZF8 is a great traditional auto, but the ZF9 is a mess. Even though they're OEM specced for use cases, the ZF9 is an all around loser.

Rumor is the new Tremec 7 speed DCT that will also be used in the C8.
 
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No, it's been confirmed by Toyota that they will be implementing CarPlay starting in 2019 with the Avalon. I don't have any experience with Entune, but for those who I do know, they don't have very many good things to say about the stability With Entune and it's lethargic user interface. CarPlay Will be appreciated starting in 2019 for those who have been waiting for Toyota to make a much-needed move, as auto manufacturers have been offering Android Auto and CarPlay for while now.
Toyota can confirm up and down until they're blue in the face, but I won't believe it until they ship cars with it. And that customers can buy a vehicle with either or both systems available, fully functional and ready to use. Mazda has been confirming they'll be including either Android Auto or Carplay for a few years now. Toyota has invested way too much time and money to drop their in-house development at this point. Promises and confirmations don't mean anything to me.
 
The hood insulation is pretty cheap( $45) and looks fairly easy to replace. And last week I discovered the entrance the mice were using to enter the garage after a mouse got caught in a trap and ran off with it, but leaving it behind where they got into the garage. So need to seal that hole and then order the replacement.....
 
The hood insulation is pretty cheap( $45) and looks fairly easy to replace. And last week I discovered the entrance the mice were using to enter the garage after a mouse got caught in a trap and ran off with it, but leaving it behind where they got into the garage. So need to seal that hole and then order the replacement.....
I'd stuff the hole or whatever with steel wool and then cover as you normally would. Some manufacturers have been sued in the past because they use soy or other nut/seed based compounds to coat their wiring and harnesses, or the plastic around the wire is based off an edible oil.
 
Toyota can confirm up and down until they're blue in the face, but I won't believe it until they ship cars with it.

There is no question here at all. . The 2019 Avalon will incorporate/be available with CarPlay starting in March. Toyota confirmed that already through multiple sources at the NAIA in Detroit. The Avalon (In all from levels) Will be the the first to incorporate it.

However:

"CarPlay will not be found on Toyota and Lexus models that were manufactured and delivered before 2019. All 2018 Toyota cars that received Entune 3.0 as part of the original package will not receive CarPlay as a future firmware upgrade."

http://www.techtimes.com/amp/articl...exus-vehicles-will-feature-apples-carplay.htm

Toyota has invested way too much time and money to drop their in-house development at this point.

Toyota is NOT dropping Entune or any future development for Entune. CarPlay requires Entune 3.0 or higher, which will require Entune 3.0/Lexus Enform 3.0 will require an iPhone to be connected by USB for CarPlay to be accessible.
 
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The First documented 2019 Mustang Bullitt sold at Barrett Jackson for $300,000. (Although the proceeds will be entirely donated to an Organization in California by Ford.)
 
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There is no question about it. The 2019 Avalon will incorporate/be available with CarPlay starting in March. Toyota confirmed that already through multiple sources at the NAIA in Detroit. The Avalon (In all from levels) Will be the the first to incorporate it.

I'm not sure how clear I can be. Let's try this again. Until there's a physical car, available for purchase, with Car Play, I'm choosing to ignore Toyota's confirmations. Why? Because Toyota has said they'd incorporate it in the past. Mazda has been confirming CarPlay and Android Auto for a couple years now. Mazda won't be releasing the upcoming 6 refresh with either system. At the 2017 LA Auto Show, Mazda confirmed they'd bring one or both systems to their vehicles in 2018. Mazda is still ambiguous of when exactly and which models will get the third party system. Mazda also confirmed that Car Play was coming back in March. They were announced as a CarPlay partner back in July 2014, and have confirmed at least a dozen times since then they'd incorporate Car Play in the very near future.

And, for what it's worth, Entune is tied into Scout GPS (2017+ on Lexus), a Toyota and Telenav partnership creation; free for three years then requiring a paid sub. Car Play and Android Auto take over these native systems and work off of the phone. Toyota's hesitation has always been about privacy issues, which is a bit ironic considering they've entered in a partnership with Amazon to use Alexa in some of their vehicles that utilize Entune 3 and Enform 2 on the Lexus brand. Amazon is one of the least transparent companies when it comes to what they do with your data. Toyota also said four years ago that their first CarPlay systems won't come along until mid to late 2015. There's also no viable reason Toyota won't be offering the system on 2018+ Camry's when they use the same Entune software

I'm not sure if you've used the latest Entune or even Enform on Lexus vehicles, but it's slow and you can see motion lag while switching radio stations or moving through menus. There is no reason why a 2018 Lexus should have such a slow system. Only the LC comes with a slightly more robust system, but it's also a $100,000 Lexus.

The last time I went to the Lexus dealership for some minor maintenance, I had a look around the lot. I know of Scout GPS, but I was wondering what Lexus was doing. You can't project Google Maps onto the headunit. There's some workarounds with third party apps, but they're buggy. This was within the last five months. There were 2018 vehicles already on the lot.

Even Honda realized no one liked HondaLink and its associate app suite because it was trash. Though, both brands lose out on potential customers for not offering Android Auto. They're not exactly Porsche, who can say they only offer CarPlay because the majority of their customers own iPhones and not Androids, also similar in how they know most of their GT3 customers also happen to own Cayennes they use to tow their GT3 around.


Not to say CarPlay is better or worse than Android Auto. Apple Maps and Siri are awful, though. This isn't just a Toyota or Mazda issue. A lot of car marques have dragged their feet.

Edit: In short, until there's a vehicle on a lot that comes with CarPlay, Toyota can confirm up and down as Mazda and Toyota have for years.
 
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