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yg17

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Does the OEM shift knob have any known deficiencies? I've driven plenty of cars with similar style shift knobs to your OEM one, and have yet to see one damaged.

The folks who are talking about aftermarket shifters on their Mustang are doing so because of a known defect in the factory shifter, plus also for a quantifiable performance increase. It's been known for a long time that short throw shift levers decrease acceleration time(it's not too much of a leap to think that less movement of the lever=less time shifting gears=faster acceleration).

Nothing wrong with an aftermarket shifter on an automatic. Anything to speed up the time it takes to go from P to D ;)
 

poiihy

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I want to add a discussion to this thread:
LED headlight bulbs. (Retrofit bulbs that replace halogen bulbs)
What are your opinions?
Does anyone use them?
I'm interested in Matthew's opinions of these.
 
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AustinIllini

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I want to add a discussion to this thread:
LED headlight bulbs.
What are your opinions?
Does anyone use them?
I'm interested in Matthew's opinions of these.
I'm all for them when they are implemented in the design of the original car. At this point, they're almost cliche as every brand uses them. At first it was just Audi and that was kind of their signature, however now GMCs and Chevys have them, so they're not quite as exclusive.

As far as non-OEM laser lights, they're really not necessary.
 

poiihy

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I'm all for them when they are implemented in the design of the original car. At this point, they're almost cliche as every brand uses them. At first it was just Audi and that was kind of their signature, however now GMCs and Chevys have them, so they're not quite as exclusive.

As far as non-OEM laser lights, they're really not necessary.

Oh, should've mentioned, I'm talking about LED retrofit bulbs that replace a halogen bulb. Like the ones you see at the ebay search I linked.
 

yg17

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Oh, should've mentioned, I'm talking about LED retrofit bulbs that replace a halogen bulb. Like the ones you see at the ebay search I linked.
No. Don't like them. Factory LEDs are designed aimed correctly and at the right brightness as to not annoy or blind oncoming traffic. All too often when people throw in their cheap AutoZone LEDs they don't aim them and their LED low beams are as bright as their old high beams.
 

MatthewLTL

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I want to add a discussion to this thread:
LED headlight bulbs. (Retrofit bulbs that replace halogen bulbs)
What are your opinions?
Does anyone use them?
I'm interested in Matthew's opinions of these.
I actually looked into this myself. Mostly the problem with LED headlight bulbs is that they are not bright enough. When it comes to headlight/fog light LED Bulbs you dont want to get the cheapest you can find. When it comes to something as important as headlights you want to make sure you get AS BRIGHT or BRIGHTER than the halogens. You want something in the 8000K range i believe. Any LED Bulb that has the same brightness as a HID bulb should surfice. This is all going on what I have been told. I would rather have LEDs over HIDs because LED's don't burn out and wont blind other drivers like HIDs do.
No. Don't like them. Factory LEDs are designed aimed correctly and at the right brightness as to not annoy or blind oncoming traffic. All too often when people throw in their cheap AutoZone LEDs they don't aim them and their LED low beams are as bright as their old high beams.
Are you sure you are not talking about HIDs? AFAIK no cars have factory LED headlights they have factory LED DRLs however.
 
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senseless

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Ever hear of a Polaris Slingshot? I saw one today for the first time. GM 4 cylinder motor, waterproof cockpit. I was surprised it was only $25K new. Completely impractical, but an attention grabber.
 
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MatthewLTL

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Actually, the Acura TLX does. And the MDX.
I don't see many of those.
Since we are talking bout lights.. Why do people drive with their high beams off.... It's so annoying it pisses me off!
Do you mean highbeams ON? no idea, i get blinded by HIDs and low beams anyways, Sometimes people will drive with highbeams on when they have a headlight out and rather than replace it they use high beams.
 

bunnspecial

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May 3, 2014
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When it comes to headlight/fog light LED Bulbs you dont want to get the cheapest you can find. When it comes to something as important as headlights you want to make sure you get AS BRIGHT or BRIGHTER than the halogens. You want something in the 8000K range i believe. Any LED Bulb that has the same brightness as a HID bulb should surfice.

8000K(or whatever) refers to the color temperature, or in other words what color the lights are. 8000K is going to look blue/purple. Most HIDs run somewhere in the 5000K range, while halogens are around 3000K. For reference, daylight is usually considered 5000K. From my old photography days, I have 2700K drilled into my head as the typical color temperature of a typical tungsten light, while shadows are about 6000K.

The brightness of the lamp is usually measured in lumens, and if you want to match your OEM headlights look for something with the same output.
 

MatthewLTL

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8000K(or whatever) refers to the color temperature, or in other words what color the lights are. 8000K is going to look blue/purple. Most HIDs run somewhere in the 5000K range, while halogens are around 3000K. For reference, daylight is usually considered 5000K. From my old photography days, I have 2700K drilled into my head as the typical color temperature of a typical tungsten light, while shadows are about 6000K.

The brightness of the lamp is usually measured in lumens, and if you want to match your OEM headlights look for something with the same output.

Oh ok. Good to know, Whats the Lumens of a 6500K LED?
 

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AFAIK no cars have factory LED headlights
Most cars have them these days... (off the top of my head)

Toyota Corolla/Camry/RAV4
Lexus ES/IS/GS/LS/CT
BMW 3/4/5/6/7/X3/X5/X6/X4/i3/i8
Honda Accord/Pilot
Acura TLX/ILX/RDX/MDX
Audi A3/A6/A7/A8/Q7/TT/R8
Mercedes C/E/S
Escalade
Infiniti Q50

Audi was the first with LED DRLs, Lexus was the first with all-LED headlamp in the LS600hl

Audi-LED-Headlamps.jpg


 
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AustinIllini

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Since we are talking bout lights.. Why do people drive with their high beams off.... It's so annoying it pisses me off!

I don't see many of those.
Do you mean highbeams ON? no idea, i get blinded by HIDs and low beams anyways, Sometimes people will drive with highbeams on when they have a headlight out and rather than replace it they use high beams.

All Acuras have LED headlights, not just DRLs.
 

lucasfer899

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I actually looked into this myself. Mostly the problem with LED headlight bulbs is that they are not bright enough. When it comes to headlight/fog light LED Bulbs you dont want to get the cheapest you can find. When it comes to something as important as headlights you want to make sure you get AS BRIGHT or BRIGHTER than the halogens. You want something in the 8000K range i believe. Any LED Bulb that has the same brightness as a HID bulb should surfice. This is all going on what I have been told. I would rather have LEDs over HIDs because LED's don't burn out and wont blind other drivers like HIDs do.
Are you sure you are not talking about HIDs? AFAIK no cars have factory LED headlights they have factory LED DRLs however.

8000K is a colour temperature, not brightness. Brightness is Lumens.

No cars have factory LED?! paha! AutoUnion has it covered above, no need to waste breath here.
 

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8000K is a colour temperature, not brightness. Brightness is Lumens.

Bingo, this is an important point that needs to be made.

And to Matthew, you DON'T want 8000K headlights. They will be basically blue. In fact, higher K actually makes it harder to see out. Stock Bi-Xenons have a more icy-blue-white tint that is closer to 4300-4500K.

An 8000K HID kit with stock halogen reflectors is a recipe for disaster. They will blind everyone.

HID headlights require proper fitting with sufficient electric supply, beam cut-off, aiming, among other things.

I know a guy with drop-in HIDs in his Accord and the shop had to run wires directly TO the battery from the HID ballasts because the stock wiring couldn't handle the extra wattage. That's just ridiculous IMO.
 

AustinIllini

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Bingo, this is an important point that needs to be made.

And to Matthew, you DON'T want 8000K headlights. They will be basically blue. In fact, higher K actually makes it harder to see out. Stock Bi-Xenons have a more icy-blue-white tint that is closer to 4300-4500K.

An 8000K HID kit with stock halogen reflectors is a recipe for disaster. They will blind everyone.

HID headlights require proper fitting with sufficient electric supply, beam cut-off, aiming, among other things. I know a guy with drop-in HIDs in his Accord and the shop had to run wires directly TO the battery from the HID ballasts because the stock wiring couldn't handle the extra wattage.

He drives around without brakes. He doesn't care about anyone else, honestly.
 
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D.T.

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D.T.

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It's catastrophic problem is it's blue oval :cool:

Nah. Ford is building some outstanding cars. I don't have a particular allegiance to a manufacturer, so I consider models from any source, and the Mustang is solid. Terrific performance (talking all facets, from straight line to braking to handling), sounds amazing, is great bang-for-the-buck, etc.
 
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