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yg17

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a aftermarket shifter will "de-value" the car,

I doubt he's talking about the shift knob. He's talking about the shift mechanism, this can shorten the throws between gears and reduce the time it takes to shift, theoretically improving 0-60 time. Aftermarket modifications that improve the car's performance aren't going to devalue the car as much as a fugly magenta PepBoys shift knob on an automatic.
 
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MatthewLTL

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Not if it's fake carbon fiber with matching pedals. That's a good 5% increase to Bluebook.
not fake carbon fiber, and the pedals only match in colour.
I doubt he's talking about the shift knob. He's talking about the shift mechanism, this can shorten the throws between gears and reduce the time it takes to shift, theoretically improving 0-60 time. Aftermarket modifications that improve the car's performance aren't going to devalue the car as much as a fugly magenta PepBoys shift knob on an automatic.
ITS NOT ****** MAGENTA!!
 
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MatthewLTL

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I have no idea what you're talking about, do you mean your shifter/pedals aren't fake carbon fiber?
The sihifter is real carbon fiber it has a clear plastic covering over the CF and its RED Chrome the pedals are just red chrome trim pieces on metal. the red colour on the pedals has pretty much worn off
 

D.T.

macrumors G4
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Sep 15, 2011
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Vilano Beach, FL
The sihifter is real carbon fiber it has a clear plastic covering over the CF and its RED Chrome the pedals are just red chrome trim pieces on metal. the red colour on the pedals has pretty much worn off

Ahh. I wasn't really talking about you/your products specifically.

FWIW, about 98% of the "Carbon Fiber" products sold use a process called Hydrocarbon, it's basically a dyeing process to simulate the look of CF. I had a pretty significant number of CF products, plus seen it bagged, used for sailing components, etc., it's funny how fake the fake stuff looks once you've seen a decent amount of the real product.

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In fact, I just very recently found these photos on an old drive I recently mounted (and finally backed up!), I totally forgot I owned these at one time (they were never used, but beautiful CF work) Square Craft BTW, very high quality Japanese brand, hard to find/import.
 

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puma1552

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Ever drive a 2011 or newer Mustang with a manual trans? It looks like it would be a fun second car.

I hear the getrag 6 speed manual has horrible reliability cause it's sourced thru China

But the auto is flawless with a tune

I think the problem may be in the shifter itself. There are good aftermarket shifters, so that could be an option.

I believe there was a later "silent revision" that squared some of this up. Maybe '13+ models? My buddy's GT convertible has been solid as a rock, I know it's at least a '12, and another friend who runs a Boss 302 pretty regularly on track beats the heck out of his, no issues to speak of.

That being said, it's comforting the GT500 uses a Tremec 6060. :)

The Chinese 6 speed Getrag is still in use, and still a problem. Ford's "solution" was a lousy additive to the fluid.

An MGW shifter is a must on the GT.

I went auto on my '14 GT and couldn't be happier - glad they are still using a crusty old torque converter, given their DCT problems in the Focus.
 

D.T.

macrumors G4
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The Chinese 6 speed Getrag is still in use, and still a problem. Ford's "solution" was a lousy additive to the fluid.

An MGW shifter is a must on the GT.

I went auto on my '14 GT and couldn't be happier - glad they are still using a crusty old torque converter, given their DCT problems in the Focus.

Good info. Oh man, I had an MGW shift knob in my Z06, just fantastic, heavy, shortened the assembly by ~1.25-1.5" (never went full replacement shifter).
 

A.Goldberg

macrumors 68030
Jan 31, 2015
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not fake carbon fiber, and the pedals only match in colour.
ITS NOT ****** MAGENTA!!

I believe the color is actually called telemagenta. It could also be classified as a variant fuchsia.

Telemagenta:
Telemagenta_429523_i0.png


Fuchsia Purple
Fuchsia_Purple_1395341.png


It's ok that it's pink/purple. It says nothing about your manliness. I have a bunch of pink/pinkish clothes I wear. Here's a few examples. image.jpg

Magenta though... Not my color.
 

D.T.

macrumors G4
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Vilano Beach, FL
Wait, I've got another CF item from that same drive, holy smokes, this one will make you cry ...


Yeah, so I scored an amazing deal on this from a guy in Canada (this was 4-ish years ago). A real Top Secret (direct from Japan), carbon hood, painted in Silverstone Silver (a match to my car), with the vent left with exposed carbon.

Well, the guy ships it in a _BOX_. Like a big, floppy cardbard box, with just some plastic packaging material. These kind of products are usually in a wood frame/palette. I got reimbursed from him, he apparently got covered by UPS (it actually started with some other truck line in Canada), UPS sent a truck to pick it up (so I believe he even got it back). It literally got folded in half.

Bummer, but I can tell I would've probably sold it, I went +way+ more low key on this ride.
 

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lucasfer899

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I agree with you 100%. I don't like what "new" cars offer. If I were to ever get one the 1st thing i would do was disable/remove all the bogus stuff. An example would be having the factory stereo ripped out and replaced with a simple aftermarket CD Deck.
This makes no sense, many new cars rely on their head unit for important tasks, and would not function properly without them.
"simple aftermarket CD deck" really shows your POV on life.

a aftermarket shifter will "de-value" the car,
You have one.

The sihifter is real carbon fiber it has a clear plastic covering over the CF and its RED Chrome the pedals are just red chrome trim pieces on metal. the red colour on the pedals has pretty much worn off
This whole post screams quality.
/s
 

Suture

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Feb 22, 2007
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Anyone watch Le Mans? I am an Audi owner/fan so always rooting for Audi, but nice to see Porsche pull off a win. I was also very impressed with how quickly they repaired Duval's R18 -- that was like what, 4 minutes?

And as always, those Corvettes sound amazing.
 

D.T.

macrumors G4
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Sep 15, 2011
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Vilano Beach, FL
Anyone watch Le Mans? I am an Audi owner/fan so always rooting for Audi, but nice to see Porsche pull off a win. I was also very impressed with how quickly they repaired Duval's R18 -- that was like what, 4 minutes?

And as always, those Corvettes sound amazing.


I've been out of loop following motorsports this year, but I did go to the 24 Hour at Daytona, always super fun. One the Vettes from the 24 Hour:
 

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bunnspecial

macrumors G3
May 3, 2014
8,353
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Kentucky
The sihifter is real carbon fiber it has a clear plastic covering over the CF and its RED Chrome the pedals are just red chrome trim pieces on metal. the red colour on the pedals has pretty much worn off

Once again, Matthew, you're missing the point. Bolt-on generic parts from Autozone don't in any way increase the value of a car. Well done quality aftermarket parts can, especially if they are fixing a known weakness or a problem in a car.
 
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AustinIllini

macrumors G5
Oct 20, 2011
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Austin, TX
Once again, Matthew, you're missing the point. Bolt-on generic parts from Autozone don't in any way increase the value of a car. Well done quality aftermarket parts can, especially if they are fixing a known weakness or a problem in a car.

For real. Why would you put a crown on a pile of garbage?
 

MatthewLTL

macrumors 68000
Jan 22, 2015
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Rochester, MN
I believe the color is actually called telemagenta. It could also be classified as a variant fuchsia.

Telemagenta:
Telemagenta_429523_i0.png


Fuchsia Purple
Fuchsia_Purple_1395341.png


It's ok that it's pink/purple. It says nothing about your manliness. I have a bunch of pink/pinkish clothes I wear. Here's a few examples. View attachment 561431

Magenta though... Not my color.
It's RED! although it's not for sale anymore here is a picture of one of the same colour and simular design (minus the chrome shift button)
Screenshot-1.png
 

MatthewLTL

macrumors 68000
Jan 22, 2015
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Rochester, MN
Once again, Matthew, you're missing the point. Bolt-on generic parts from Autozone don't in any way increase the value of a car. Well done quality aftermarket parts can, especially if they are fixing a known weakness or a problem in a car.
What point am I missing? when was is stated ANYWHERE that my addon shift knob or pedal covers increased the value in anyway? It HAS No value to speak of so what's to increase?

EDIT: I can also point out that this aftermarket shift knob is of much better quality than the OEM plastic one
 

senseless

macrumors 68000
Apr 23, 2008
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Pennsylvania, USA
The Chinese 6 speed Getrag is still in use, and still a problem. Ford's "solution" was a lousy additive to the fluid.

An MGW shifter is a must on the GT.

I went auto on my '14 GT and couldn't be happier - glad they are still using a crusty old torque converter, given their DCT problems in the Focus.

Thanks! The MGW demo video explained all of the causes of the sloppy stock shifter. Too much articulation, plastic parts, wear points, general cheapness, lol. At least there is a fix, but $500 plus install.
 

puma1552

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Nov 20, 2008
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Thanks! The MGW demo video explained all of the causes of the sloppy stock shifter. Too much articulation, plastic parts, wear points, general cheapness, lol. At least there is a fix, but $500 plus install.

its totally worth every penny though and without question should be the first mod on a manual GT

i should say a lot of people are having issues with the 6 speed but not NEARLY as many as those with the Focus DCT - there are enough issues with that I wouldn't buy that car, but the GT problem doesn't seem as widespread that I'd dismiss the car.

Take one for a drive and go from there, 400+ hp will have you signing papers instantly lol
 

bunnspecial

macrumors G3
May 3, 2014
8,353
6,497
Kentucky
What point am I missing? when was is stated ANYWHERE that my addon shift knob or pedal covers increased the value in anyway? It HAS No value to speak of so what's to increase?

EDIT: I can also point out that this aftermarket shift knob is of much better quality than the OEM plastic one

Does the OEM shift knob have any known deficiencies? I've driven plenty of cars with similar style shift knobs to your OEM one, and have yet to see one damaged.

The folks who are talking about aftermarket shifters on their Mustang are doing so because of a known defect in the factory shifter, plus also for a quantifiable performance increase. It's been known for a long time that short throw shift levers decrease acceleration time(it's not too much of a leap to think that less movement of the lever=less time shifting gears=faster acceleration).
 

MatthewLTL

macrumors 68000
Jan 22, 2015
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Does the OEM shift knob have any known deficiencies? I've driven plenty of cars with similar style shift knobs to your OEM one, and have yet to see one damaged.

The folks who are talking about aftermarket shifters on their Mustang are doing so because of a known defect in the factory shifter, plus also for a quantifiable performance increase. It's been known for a long time that short throw shift levers decrease acceleration time(it's not too much of a leap to think that less movement of the lever=less time shifting gears=faster acceleration).

Well, The OEM shifter on both cars throw the shift buttons, In the case of the impala i shift it and the button flies out, the case of the Daewoo the button would stick, the POWER button simply didn't work AND I did not like the look of it. I want to get my hands on a Sport shifter but got what i have in the meantime. The OEM Sport shifter is leather wrapped and designed different
 

D.T.

macrumors G4
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Summit Racing said:
Matrix Shift Knob:

Brand:Matrix
Manufacturer's Part Number:04-121
Part Type:Transmission Shift Knobs
Product Line:Matrix Shift Knobs
Summit Racing Part Number:GRM-04-121

Knob Style:Cylindrical
Knob Material:Aluminum
Knob Finish:Red carbon fiber look

Carbon. Fiber. Look.

:D
 
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