Yeah, I thought it was the combined GM platform or the F series that were by far the #1 selling trucks, if not vehicles in the US.
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Yeah, I thought it was the combined GM platform or the F series that were by far the #1 selling trucks, if not vehicles in the US.
Yes, whilst the others form the top 25, it is staggering by how much the Ford and GM outsell the others.
The 25 Bestselling Cars, Trucks, and SUVs of 2024
After years of turmoil, new-car sales settled back into normalcy, and some new models snuck onto the list of bestsellers.
That's due to the chicken tax. Ford and GM had a huge head start because they made cars in North America. The Japanese and German brands produce models in the US now, but don't have the capacity to build heavy trucks here for the most part.Yes, whilst the others form the top 25, it is staggering by how much the Ford and GM outsell the others.
The 25 Bestselling Cars, Trucks, and SUVs of 2024
After years of turmoil, new-car sales settled back into normalcy, and some new models snuck onto the list of bestsellers.www.caranddriver.com
Toyota has a plant in TX that produces the Tundra... It is the only full-sized pickup truck assembled in TX. I have never heard of anyone walking into a yota dealership and walking out siting Tundra unavailability (I do have several friends with Tundras).
The chicken tax is for small pickup trucks, at least that is how I understand it, not full-sized trucks.
Ford and GM just make trucks Americans want... Simple as that... You can't take sales numbers away from them.
It's for all "light trucks", which includes pickup trucks.
Thanks for keeping me honest. I actually had to look it up
According to AI, light trucks include
- Pickup Trucks: Ford F-150, Toyota Tacoma, Chevrolet Silverado 1500
- SUVs: Jeep Grand Cherokee, Ford Explorer
- Vans: Honda Odyssey (minivan), Ford Transit Connect (small commercial van)
We are talking about the highest selling tucks being full sized American pickup trucks in the US. The chicken tax doesn't come into play with these as there are no full-sized truck competition from overseas not being offered here. We have the Toyota Tundra assembled in the US.
The chicken tax applies to the trucks that are actually manufactured overseas that aren't imported, like the Toyota Hilux (the small pickups). If there was enough of a market for them here, Toyota would have assembled it in their TX or Mexico plants. They choose not to because they have determined that it wouldn't be profitable enough in this market.
The Toyota Hilux would in no way be the highest selling truck in the US, even without the chicken tax. It wouldn't even be in the conversation.
The Tundra is built in San Antonio and the Tacoma in Mexico. So no excuses for them only selling 1 Tundra for every 5 F-150's.
My apologies. While Toyota seems a lot of trucks, Ford F-150, heavy Silverado, RAM, and so on sell a lot more trucks. The Tacoma and Tundra have been quite popular in recent years, too.
Yea the Tundra and Taco are nice trucks. I am glad Toyota figured out the motor issue as well.
F150, Silverado, and Ram sales numbers are propped up heavily from the Construction, Government and Commercial Fleet sectors. They renew their trucks every 3 to 7 years which keeps feeding into Ford, GM, and Stellantis. My current employer alone leases 300+ F150 trucks that they renew every 90k miles.
No one mentioned the Nissan Titan. To bat it’s getting discounted due to low sales numbers.
No one mentioned the Nissan Titan. To bat it’s getting discounted due to low sales numbers.
Cause it sucked. They gave me one as a rental when my truck got hit and I couldn't give it back fast enough.
My wife and I have a 2013 Tundra 5.7L, and a 3rd Generation 2023 Tacoma TRD Off Road. We prefer normally aspirated engines (no turbo).
Just got myself a 2017 Volvo V60. First Volvo I have owned. Small petrol engine but have to say it grows on me.
Sure, its not an Audi in terms of quality feel but well built (fairly heavy compared to similar sized cars) and I flippin love that I can turn on the heater via an app. When its -20 C outside its flippin nice to have.
Googled for fun what a new software for the engine can do, from 150HP > 230HP with a stage one kit.
Not sure I need it but still pretty cool what a bit of software can do.
Only letdown is the lack ox LED/Xenon lights and no Apple Carplay. The aftermarket options isn't really giving a quality vibe. So will prob have to stick with BT for the time being.
Sure, its not an Audi in terms of quality feel but well built (fairly heavy compared to similar sized cars) and I flippin love that I can turn on the heater via an app. When its -20 C outside its flippin nice to have.
Googled for fun what a new software for the engine can do, from 150HP > 230HP with a stage one kit.
Not sure I need it but still pretty cool what a bit of software can do.
Only letdown is the lack ox LED/Xenon lights and no Apple Carplay. The aftermarket options isn't really giving a quality vibe. So will prob have to stick with BT for the time being.
That is a huge increase with a stage one, I'd take it with a pinch of salt and perhaps go with Volvo's own Polestar tune. As you say you originally have 150Hp I'm assuming you have a manual FWD T3. I wouldn't expect much more than 180Hp to be honest.
You know your Volvos...thats obvious
Its a T3, Manual and as you say....the numbers are to be taken with a pinch of salt.
Saw a few other companies offer a more "sane" 190HP output.
Will deffo have a look at the polstar tune, thanks.
Oh....a feature I have always slagged people off opting for is a heated stearing wheel...
Now that I have one....a man, flippin love it, never thought I would like that feature that much.
From a 2011 Nissan Cube (stock image)
to a 2025 Kia K5 GT
I'll miss that Cube, tragic ending (basically hit 200K+ miles and everything decided to cataclysmically fail), lots of memories.
to a 2025 Kia K5 GT
I'll miss that Cube, tragic ending (basically hit 200K+ miles and everything decided to cataclysmically fail), lots of memories.