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Mazda is another carmaker that has been producing some good looking compact SUV's in recent years

The nicest one I saw recently was the Alfa Romeo Tonale - really great detailing. Nice headlights and grill, nice side profile.

Junior also looks pretty good but I haven’t seen it in person yet.
 
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Sold my M3P and bought a cybertruck 2 days ago. It’s fun
 
I'll wait to pass judgment on if the numbers are horrible until I see F150 Lightening, Rivian R1T, Chevy Silverado EV, and Hummer pickup EV sales numbers.
This is a charitable yet meaningless comparison. The truck market is full of heavy hitters. This doesn't even come close.

1 million preorders and their sales are going down.

The word is out. Cybertruck is a disaster.
 
This is a charitable yet meaningless comparison. The truck market is full of heavy hitters. This doesn't even come close.

1 million preorders and their sales are going down.

The word is out. Cybertruck is a disaster.
They have made a big mistake as well, where the Cybertruck can't even be registered as a road — legal car in many countries. I mean come on, it is 2024, that just shows the inexperience of Tesla in making cars. They started off well, I'd even credit them for making a market in general. But apart from FSD, again not legal in most of the world, there isn't much there any more but competing on price. There are so many much better options.
 
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They have made a big mistake as well, where the Cybertruck can't even be registered as a road — legal car in many countries. I mean come on, it is 2024, that just shows the inexperience of Tesla in making cars. They started off well, I'd even credit them for making a market in general. But apart from FSD, again not legal in most of the world, there isn't much there any more but competing on price. There are so many much better options.
You literally have to be delusional to think this thing is a success.
 
You literally have to be delusional to think this thing is a success.
It depends. I don't think it is. Despite my criticisms, I do think it is a success. Not as a car, as a car it is stupid, not smart, sales limiting, etc. However, as a halo for the company, it is marketing gold. It attracts attention, good or bad, doesn't matter. It gets people talking. Furthermore, it enables a bunch of 'influencers' to create more posts. Even in markets where it is illegal, it creates content by getting it onto the roads.

So no, I don't think people literally are delusional, I think they are smart and understand how to make money out of what is effectively a failure; thus it is a big success. ;)
 
It’s hard to imagine with Toyota and Honda still making lauded cars that GM can’t figure it out.
Eh. They could they just don’t have a compelling profit motive. Especially since the American brands don’t sell vehicles anywhere else (in any numbers).

I’m curious if the Japanese brands are still selling US specific cars or if they switched to the ROW versions.
 
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