The bolded has been the case for many years at this point. And now chrome books enter into the fray.
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The disturbing direction that Apple is headed...
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How can u have a steady incline of failing Apple products having more issues over the years reported as it fixes Bluetooth, hardware screen issues etc.. when all other companies doing exactly the same Q&A testing, don't have as near as many? Obviously something has declined at Apple..
You can blame (battery testing we'd rather focus on more) or any other testing to back it up, but there is a clear evidence, something's a miss.
I too like my Apple products. Microsoft however, is keeping me *at bay* due to their fierce push to Windows 10 cruft on users. it's shocking beyond belief... Microsoft has really turned nasty..
If Apple ever went the same way, i'd be out of here so fast, u would just see a blur.
You can blame (battery testing we'd rather focus on more) or any other testing to back it up, but there is a clear evidence, something's a miss.
I too like my Apple products. Microsoft however, is keeping me *at bay* due to their fierce push to Windows 10 cruft on users. it's shocking beyond belief... Microsoft has really turned nasty..
If Apple ever went the same way, i'd be out of here so fast, u would just see a blur.
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Apple is a reflection of the people in charge, but it has lost its magic balance.
Steve knew how to keep a healthy balance of great design (Jony), impressive 'magic' software (Scott), smart business decisions (Tim) as well as his own focused intuition. He had a good idea of how far to take these elements and how and when they were appropriate.
Without someone there to keep these guys in balance we've ended up with the inevitable Tim & Jony company: Taking both design and profit maximizing to their uncomfortable extremes.
Not because they necessarily think this is right and good, but because they don't know any better - they're just doing their thing.
I think if Apple wants to gets its edge back it needs a new CEO from outside who gets what its all about.
Steve knew how to keep a healthy balance of great design (Jony), impressive 'magic' software (Scott), smart business decisions (Tim) as well as his own focused intuition. He had a good idea of how far to take these elements and how and when they were appropriate.
Without someone there to keep these guys in balance we've ended up with the inevitable Tim & Jony company: Taking both design and profit maximizing to their uncomfortable extremes.
Not because they necessarily think this is right and good, but because they don't know any better - they're just doing their thing.
I think if Apple wants to gets its edge back it needs a new CEO from outside who gets what its all about.
I don't see Apple making a change at the top, when they're so profitable. I'm not disagreeing with you, but I do think from a business sense, Cook is viewed as successful.
Are you sure they don't?
Whenever an Apple iDevice catches fire or a buggy update bricks a few phones, its not unusual for it to be reported in the mainstream media (e.g. the front page of the BBC website). If its a Samsung or HTC - not so much. E.g. Samsung S3/S4/Note 2 phones had a nasty habit of destroying some brands of SD cards (mine munched its way through 2 32GB cards) - never fixed AFAIK - but that didn't make anything like the splash of (say) problems with a few 3rd Party iPhone touch ID sensors (patched within a few weeks).
Apple have done a great job of building their media profile - which is great when your new watch straps make front page news, not so great when a kitten dies in a tragic watch strap accident and you get the same attention.
Also - re. buggy updates - if you've got a 3rd party Android device then updates are as common as hen's teeth, and if they do appear they lag the relevant Android releases by many months.
I agree I don't think this will happen because it won't be viewed as wise from a numbers perspective.
I think back to how Steve handled antenna gate and his refusal to apologise to short term investors for giving away free bumpers. We need someone to put the customer first again - because it works for the shareholders in the long run.
Giving away free bumpers was putting the customer first? As opposed to some of the other recall programs under Tim Cook that didn't put the customer first?
I guess i'm just looking at the wrong sites. So, i figured Apple just takes a bigger dive than others.
What would a recall have done? Factory-fitted a plastic bumper?
It was a proportionate response (since lots of customers didn't have a problem until they saw a YouTube video showing them exactly how to "hold it wrong").
For me the magic started to fade with the intel transition. All of the hardware inside todays Mac's are not as good as the G5 and lower. What I absolutely can not stand is the lack of quality graphics cards. Intel's integrated cards are garbage. Sure Apple has done a good job getting things like Final Cut to run on the latest MacBook and Mini's.....but other vendors are not doing the same. VR is potentially the next big thing and Apple has dropped the ball there.
It is getting harder and harder to stay on the OS X platform due to pro grade software not being able to run on most machines. Even in the Quadra and Centris days it was rare to have a piece of software that couldn't run on the entire product line. It was usually something like FPU's being needed, but sometimes software based FPU's could be used.
The Mac has gone from a prosumer grade product aimed at the creative professional and education markets to a consumer product with a passing interest in pro stuff. Once Apples management realized they could make all their money on selling new phones every year, the Mac lost its focus. I have a unibody white MacBook from 2010 that can run software my latest generation Mac Mini can not run....that is messed up. All because the MacBook has a real graphics card and the Mini does not. This week I had to buy a Dell so I could run compositing software without spending $3000+ on outdated technology or buying an iMac with laptop parts in it. As someone that has been using Apple products since the Apple ][ and has worked for Apple.....I can tell you it is not the same company anymore and they a do not care about the professional market one bit. Its all about selling luxury items to China and India now.
Remember when all of the beige Mac's looked the same for years and years (Example: Macintosh Iivx, Performa 200, Quadra 650, Power Macintosh 7100)? Seems a lot like now with the products....no real design changes. Where has the design innovation gone? Where is the equivalent to the clamshell iBook? Where is the cutting edge? Its all metal form factor laptops, and has been for a looooooonnnnggg time. The Mac Pro was a great step...but at $3k....fail.
Unless you've been an Apple user since before the Mac...you probably just won't get what anyone is complaining about. If your first Mac was an Intel...you won't understand. And I am sure all the Apple apologists will have something to say...I know...I used to be one!
It is getting harder and harder to stay on the OS X platform due to pro grade software not being able to run on most machines. Even in the Quadra and Centris days it was rare to have a piece of software that couldn't run on the entire product line. It was usually something like FPU's being needed, but sometimes software based FPU's could be used.
The Mac has gone from a prosumer grade product aimed at the creative professional and education markets to a consumer product with a passing interest in pro stuff. Once Apples management realized they could make all their money on selling new phones every year, the Mac lost its focus. I have a unibody white MacBook from 2010 that can run software my latest generation Mac Mini can not run....that is messed up. All because the MacBook has a real graphics card and the Mini does not. This week I had to buy a Dell so I could run compositing software without spending $3000+ on outdated technology or buying an iMac with laptop parts in it. As someone that has been using Apple products since the Apple ][ and has worked for Apple.....I can tell you it is not the same company anymore and they a do not care about the professional market one bit. Its all about selling luxury items to China and India now.
Remember when all of the beige Mac's looked the same for years and years (Example: Macintosh Iivx, Performa 200, Quadra 650, Power Macintosh 7100)? Seems a lot like now with the products....no real design changes. Where has the design innovation gone? Where is the equivalent to the clamshell iBook? Where is the cutting edge? Its all metal form factor laptops, and has been for a looooooonnnnggg time. The Mac Pro was a great step...but at $3k....fail.
Unless you've been an Apple user since before the Mac...you probably just won't get what anyone is complaining about. If your first Mac was an Intel...you won't understand. And I am sure all the Apple apologists will have something to say...I know...I used to be one!
Not allowing customers to download software like past OSs and Apple 'i_' suites seems hostile and anti-consumer to me and I'm tired of Apple nanny-state'ing its users these days. It's already bad enough how little control over our iOS devices we have. Don't need that nonsense in the computer line.
The App Store situation for Mavericks puzzles me. Other versions of the OS for Mac hardware, I don't recall problems.
iOS: I can't comment.
Apple apologists? Maybe every apple customer does not have the same opinion as you.
There are clearly people around that will defend any Apple decision no matter how much it defys logic. There are plenty on this forum in fact. Such as the people that agreed with the whole "Your holding it wrong" fiasco.
Yup, and going with unnecessary ad hominems is certainly a good way of going about it all.
This might not seem to make sense, but companies can be in just as much trouble when making insane amounts of profit as they can be when profits are low. It depends on HOW they have increased profits. If they have increased them by producing an even better product and with great marketing, then profits will continue to be high. But, if they have increased them by taking advantage of their user base and reputation, lowered the standards to reduce costs, and are producing a lower quality product than they previously did, then they are in serious trouble. This is exactly how a company creates a boom/bust situation. Sooner or later their reputation becomes forever damaged, and the enter long term decline.
Apple has done exactly this, if they aren't careful and don't do something quickly to change the direction they are headed in, they will damage their reputation as a company forever. When that happens, sales will decline on a much larger scale than is currently being seen. Apple is an incredibly vulnerable company. Their strategy of low sales with high profits on each individual item means that even a slight lowering of sales has a significant effect, and their use of vertical integration means that people tend to own either a bunch of Apple products, or none at all. Apple products are not nearly as useful on their own, they are designed to work as an ecosystem which is both a huge strength, and a huge weakness. A good example of the effects of this is with the Apple Watch. If you sell your iPhone, the watch becomes useless. People don't tend to just abandon one product with Apple, but the whole ecosystem.
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