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The fling with iPhone is over
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He's mostly having problems with at&t, not the iPhone. It just so happens that at&t is the only service that currently supports it. You don't need to be so rude about it.
Clearly you have nothing constructive to say so why add noise to the thread.
Yes I am sad to see the iPhone go. I really liked it. It killed me to return it. But it was a horrible phone for me.
You can say what you want about the iPhone but in my experience I have never seen an item where people just came out of the woodworks to justify their lack of satisfaction with the product.
I can certainly understand some people not wanting one for several reasons. I'm constantly amazed by the reactions it brings out though.
Has anyone ever seen a product that produced this kind of a reaction?
I can certainly understand some people not wanting one for several reasons. I'm constantly amazed by the reactions it brings out though.
Has anyone ever seen a product that produced this kind of a reaction?
The problem with your post is that it is really about cell phone service in general. When you are dealing with discreet radio towers, topography, interference from buildings and distance to said towers not everyone is going to have the same experience. In the past 15 years I have had probably about 10 different mobile carriers. Some were good some were not so good but the constant was always that every place varied, sometimes quit a bit. I drove cross the US with my bro about 6 years back and had Verizon and he had T-mobile or something at the time. Hands down Verizon was better it worked in the middle of the dessert in Arizona and on the lip of the Grand Canyon while his phone got no service. Two years later I moved from one side of my town to another and my prior service excellence with Verizon went down hill. I stuck it out with them a while but in the end the phone was not good for my new place so I switched to Cingular which I saw from other family members' phones worked great where I was.
This is just one example of the trials and tribulations that go hand and hand with owning a device dependent on radio reception. Did I go on the internet and post how much Verizon sucks and how bad their service was, even though they turned out to be a PITA when I switched and kept billing me for service when I had none? No, I just moved on. Nextel was even worse but that's life. Right now I am continuing with AT&T and the iPhone and even my EDGE service has been pretty good. I could move tomorrow and have my service become a nightmare but what can you do.
This is just one example of the trials and tribulations that go hand and hand with owning a device dependent on radio reception. Did I go on the internet and post how much Verizon sucks and how bad their service was, even though they turned out to be a PITA when I switched and kept billing me for service when I had none? No, I just moved on. Nextel was even worse but that's life. Right now I am continuing with AT&T and the iPhone and even my EDGE service has been pretty good. I could move tomorrow and have my service become a nightmare but what can you do.
I just don't think this thread can go anywhere useful....but the problem seemed to be with AT&T, not the iPhone. And since AT&T legally gives you a trail period, it doesn't seem like a big deal. Try the iPhone out, see AT&T doesn't have the service, in your area, return it, and your set.
Personally AT&T has been a joy in my area....they are the only company to get service at my house. I'm very happy Apple went with the,
I can tell you that in Washington state, Verizon is the best and Cingular/AT&T is the worst. There are areas in town that AT&T phones can't reach, T-Mobile barely reaches, and Verizon works fine.
I'm on T-Mobile and satisfied with it (though in the basement at work, I can't get a signal but Verizon people can). The AT&T people have it the worst.
I'm not willing to switch since going to AT&T means leaving my family plan and paying WAY more money (as the parents are covering it now since we have a family plan), AND I'd be getting worse coverage than before. If they can hack the iPhone to work with T-Mobile, perhaps I will buy one.
I'm on T-Mobile and satisfied with it (though in the basement at work, I can't get a signal but Verizon people can). The AT&T people have it the worst.
I'm not willing to switch since going to AT&T means leaving my family plan and paying WAY more money (as the parents are covering it now since we have a family plan), AND I'd be getting worse coverage than before. If they can hack the iPhone to work with T-Mobile, perhaps I will buy one.
I spent a lot of time on it. I don't understand what folks problems are if some wants to voice their experience with it.
You must be wondering yourself if bothered to read this far.
I just don't think this thread can go anywhere useful....but the problem seemed to be with AT&T, not the iPhone. And since AT&T legally gives you a trail period, it doesn't seem like a big deal. Try the iPhone out, see AT&T doesn't have the service, in your area, return it, and your set.
Personally AT&T has been a joy in my area....they are the only company to get service at my house. I'm very happy Apple went with the,
Actually it cost you $60.00 for iPhone restock, Activation Fee and a Pro-rated Month. But I'm fine with that. And I did that and I tried a second phone in hope it was defective. Their is a well discussed design issue where the antenna is placed in the iPhone as well which only adds to the frustration.
Actually based on information from CubeHacker I'm seriously thinking of going and trying a Razor again and disable HR.
Unlike you he provided useful content unlike your useless your rambling.
I think the problem is an oversensitivity to people who had bad experiences due to people who just have an axe to grind with the iPhone in particular or Apple in general.
That's exactly what I'm thinking now. If they Hack it for T-Mobile it could be a winner in my area as well.
I don't. I absolutely loved the the device itself.
I think I added something to this thread....I'm here to make sure people know, that the iPhone does work well for some people, in some areas....if only the people who have problems talk about devices, they seems like the are all broken.
And that would be fair to a consumer looking for a good phone, now would it?
You're in luck. The v3xx is the exact same phone I have on AT&T, and is one of the few phones that can be hacked to enable extra options.
First, you'll know when you're on 3G or not when there is a "3G" icon next to the signal bar on the phone. If there is a "E", then you are on EDGE. If its these 2 blue square looking things, then you're on GPRS (slower than EDGE). Now, its true that 3G sucks battery life faster than 2G. However, that is only true when you're either accessing the internet off the phone, or making a call on it. Standby time between 2G and 3G are pretty much identical. Keep in mind though that signal quality affects battery life. If you're constantly in an area with poor or no signal, then the battery will die a lot faster than if you always had full bars. This is true for 3G, 2G, and even CDMA phones.
As for battery life, i've found the battery life on the V3xx to be exceptional. For example, I charged my phone on Sunday night. Its now the end of Thursday. I've spoken for a total of ~2 - 2.5 hours in that time period. The phone is at 2/3 bars, or about 50% battery left. I have not charged it since Sunday. To me, thats very good. I usually only charge my phone once a week.
As for hacking the V3xx, there are 2 options that I would suggest you look into. First is enabling the bands menu. This allows you to force the phone to 2G, 3G, or automatic (default). As there is no 3G in my area, i've forced my phone to 2G only. This prevents the phone from searching for a 3G signal that doesn't exist, and helps battery life, as well as dropped calls due to 3G -> 2G handoff transitions. I generally recommend you lock the phone to 2G only unless you *really* need the 3G signal, since strong 2G signals are far more prevalent, and it'll keep the phone off a weak 3G signal which it might prefer when set to automatic.
The other option available to you is to disable the AMR-HR codec, which forces the network to use full rate. This will generally increase the call quality, as well as give you ~30% better coverage. Note that it won't increase the bars on your phone, but you should find that you're able to get a better signal deep inside buildings, drop calls less, and overall just get better reception. This is due to the full rate codec allow for more bits of ECC compared to the limited half rate codec. As for seeing which codec you're currently using, there is no way to do that on the v3xx (yet). However, you can do it on the iPhone by going into the service menu.
As for actually doing all this stuff, you'll need a program call P2KCommander, and it'll allow you to edit the seems on the phone by simply checking or unchecking some boxes. Check the forums on howardforums.com and modmymoto.com to see how this stuff is done. As long as you have a usb cable for the phone, its very simple to do.
Just as a side note, the v3xx has some of the best RF of any phone out there, and is considered one of the best phones AT&T offers. If you're getting horrible reception with it, then the phone might be defective, or you might just be in an area that has very poor AT&T reception, and there isn't much you can do about that.
And saying "Boo Hoo" quit your crying is how you accomplish this?
It seems your the troller here.
Would you please just get out of the way so we can have a discussion please.
Does it?
It sounds like, you think I'm saying your trolling...I'm not. Although, being so defensive, raise some questions.
And in my experience on the internet, people with over 4500 post on a single site, rarely are trolls.
I'd suggest that one of you two stop replying to the other one. That'll end it. Otherwise a mod will close the thread. That'll stop it too.
This is mystifying to me, too. People go on and on about how much they hate it (not the OP in this thread) on forums all over the place. The HoFo forum on the iPhone was filled with so many haters that it became completely useless. Folks who don't even own one make dozens of posts about why they hate the iPhone. It is amazing, really.
i agree with 100% of everything you just said.
ive had the same experisnces. Who csres who your wiyh if it works. If not, its not for you
ive had the same experisnces. Who csres who your wiyh if it works. If not, its not for you
[G5]Hydra;3939617 said:
[G5]Hydra;3939617 said:
Valid point. I was under the impression these days being near a major city (west of Boston) that they should all perform good. Every major carrier says I should get full coverage (full data rates) in the areas a I travel. But I was wrong. I have friends that have AT&T and they think it's fine. But I don't think they ever have tried Sprint or Verizon.
CDMA doesn't cause some of the issues I listed for an Audio Device either. And as an Audio Device this should be taken into consideration. I'm not going to buy a new TV, Car or Stereo because my phone spews out junk.
My friend has the Bose iPod Dock (which sounds very nice) and she has to shut the phone off to use the iPhone iPod features. It's again AT&T GSM that forced that issue on the iPhone.
So it's not just coverage that's at issue here. It's other side effects it causes. Which Cube explained so nicely. So where ever you are you will run into some of the issues I described. If it was just a phone or even a PDA Phone it's less of an issue. But it's and iPod/PDA/Phone and I bought it partially for it's iPod features.
I doubt you will like there, mods there frequently lock/delete posts of legitimate complains.
Don't let the door hit your butt on the way out, bud.
See Ya!
hes a mac guy, i dont think hes going to leave just because of 1 badly designed product (the ATT plan is part of the product BTW)
I was wondering the same thing. Seems like a huge waste of time to post how you don't get good AT&T coverage.
I agree with 100% of your problems with the iPhone and at&t. I returned for the very same reasons. I am hoping by the time iPhone2 comes out, at&t has gotten a grip on things, and I will once again be able to carry my life in my pocket.