The Hackintosh Thread

[frankiee]

but your answer 2 would make developing IOS app very hard, since any major update would make the whole machine stop working. xcode should require most updated OS to work with.

It *can* make problems, but it also *can* work without a problem. It all depends on your hardware and especially how you configured clover (and of course on how much Apple changed in between). In general, SSDT / DSDT fixes are more stable, but harder to configure as they are very low level. And usually, as soon as the final version comes out, most of any problems are usually already fixed. I mean, it only took some hours until the first people got their 10.13 developer beta running.

And why does XCode require most updated OS? Mine works just fine, and I am still on 10.11 (I did not like Sierra)

 

[j2ee]

It *can* make problems, but it also *can* work without a problem. It all depends on your hardware and especially how you configured clover (and of course on how much Apple changed in between). In general, SSDT / DSDT fixes are more stable, but harder to configure as they are very low level. And usually, as soon as the final version comes out, most of any problems are usually already fixed. I mean, it only took some hours until the first people got their 10.13 developer beta running.

And why does XCode require most updated OS? Mine works just fine, and I am still on 10.11 (I did not like Sierra)

I just remember it required a lot of updates when I tried to update an app. Do you make app sometimes with Hackintosh? No problem with publishing the app to app store?

 

[frankiee]

I just remember it required a lot of updates when I tried to update an app. Do you make app sometimes with Hackintosh? No problem with publishing the app to app store?

Nope, only doing web development, so I cannot say much about this.

 

[j2ee]

Nope, only doing web development, so I cannot say much about this.

Why don't you use Ubuntu or other Linux distribution instead of hackintosh? Look like much less troublesome.

 

[frankiee]

Why don't you use Ubuntu or other Linux distribution instead of hackintosh? Look like much less troublesome.

I dont like Linux, it is ***censored*** (SCNR). Plus, I am also doing graphics design, and Linux is totally unusable when it comes down to design. And don't ask me about windows ... macOS is simply the best platform for frontend web development & design, hands down.

And actually, it is all Apples fault. Would they have offered a decent Mac Pro back in 2013, I wouldn't be forced to use a hackintosh. Screw you, Apple!

Having said that, I am just fine with my hack right now. It made me trouble now and then, but I learned to find my ways.

 

[j2ee]

I dont like Linux, it is ***censored*** (SCNR). Plus, I am also doing graphics design, and Linux is totally unusable when it comes down to design. And don't ask me about windows ... macOS is simply the best platform for frontend web development & design, hands down.

And actually, it is all Apples fault. Would they have offered a decent Mac Pro back in 2013, I wouldn't be forced to use a hackintosh. Screw you, Apple!

Having said that, I am just fine with my hack right now. It made me trouble now and then, but I learned to find my ways.

Sound cool, can you get your design softwares working without paying anything? Or you really buy the legal copies and install in Hackintosh

 

[frankiee]

Sound cool, can you get your design softwares working without paying anything? Or you really buy the legal copies and install in Hackintosh

Yes, I pay for everything! And I also use the App Store. No problem.

 

[j2ee]

Yes, I pay for everything! And I also use the App Store. No problem.

Would you get the imac pro? LOL

 

[frankiee]

Would you get the imac pro? LOL

Never ever! Frankly I do not get what Apple is thinking. Why are they doing this? And why is the "modular" MacPro taking so long? I mean if the iMacPro is meant as a stop gap measure, and is not available until december - it looks like the mMP won't get out until maybe end of 2018, or else this won't make any sense. (But yeah, the "nMP" in itself was totally pointless, so who knows).

The ONLY desktop mac I will ever buy in the future has to be a machine with regular PCI slots, FREE CHOICE of GPU and Monitor, upgradable storage & RAM, room for additional drives and maybe even with an upgradable CPU. So, in essence just something like the old cheesegrater. Is it sooo hard to build such a machine in a decent timeframe?

I am very critical of the mMP, and I fear people will still not get what they want after all that fiasco. At least I do not trust Apple anymore, not even a tiny bit. Actually it is only macOS which still keeps me on the platform, nothing else.

 

[pastrychef]

I updated my hackintosh from macOS 10.11 to 10.12 once the the Nvidia web drivers for Sierra were released (approx a day or two after Sierra itself was released). It just required updating Clover before doing the macOS update. Not difficult at all.

 

[frankiee]

I updated my hackintosh from macOS 10.11 to 10.12 once the the Nvidia web drivers for Sierra were released (approx a day or two after Sierra itself was released). It just required updating Clover before doing the macOS update. Not difficult at all.

Yeah, but for example, going from 10.10 to 10.11 made problems, as Apple changed the USB stack back then. So as I said, it depends.

 

[j2ee]

Never ever! Frankly I do not get what Apple is thinking. Why are they doing this? And why is the "modular" MacPro taking so long? I mean if the iMacPro is meant as a stop gap measure, and is not available until december - it looks like the mMP won't get out until maybe end of 2018, or else this won't make any sense. (But yeah, the "nMP" in itself was totally pointless, so who knows).

The ONLY desktop mac I will ever buy in the future has to be a machine with regular PCI slots, FREE CHOICE of GPU and Monitor, upgradable storage & RAM, room for additional drives and maybe even with an upgradable CPU. So, in essence just something like the old cheesegrater. Is it sooo hard to build such a machine in a decent timeframe?

I am very critical of the mMP, and I fear people will still not get what they want after all that fiasco. At least I do not trust Apple anymore, not even a tiny bit. Actually it is only macOS which still keeps me on the platform, nothing else.

I think apple design aim is:
-as slim, cool, unique, not pc desktop as possible
-apple makes profit by selling super overpriced hardware, so apple wants customer buys as expensive as possible. Want upgrade? Buy the most expensive to use for longer period or just the next gen apple computer when upgrade is needed.

Apple also tries to make it manual upgrade as hard as possible so people cannot easily do it manually.

I think imac pro would be more profitable than next mac pro since imac include the screen, they would push the launch of mac pro later to gain more from imac pro first.

 

[JamesPDX]

Would you get the imac pro? LOL

Only if it was thicker and could be opened for cleaning. Even a removable cleaning/vacuum port would be great. Maybe a "blowout mode" -every computer should have this.

IMHO: On the topic of Hackintosh, I'm calling it now: High Sierra will have "something deep in there" that will put an end to all Hackintosh activity. Build now.

 

[navaira]

On the topic of Hackintosh, I'm calling it now: High Sierra will have "something deep in there" that will put an end to all Hackintosh activity. Build now.

We thought rootless/SIP would do that. It didn't. It's actually easier to disable SIP in a Hackintosh than in a "real" Mac.

I have briefly updated to Sierra. I think this is fixed now but it wasn't then. It immediately started uploading my "old files" to iCloud and deleting them from the hard drive. I restored everything from a backup and will only update to Sierra when Stoned Sierra is out and I am 100% sure the "optimize storage" feature comes switched off by default.

 

[nxuan]

I knew that trying to hackintosh a laptop is considerably more complicated than what I'd done up to now, which was installing macOS on largely hardware compatible desktop computers. The difficult part comes from having to do DSDT patches to get everything working which can be avoided with desktops if your hardware choices are good.

Boredom, curiosity (I wanted very much to acquaint myself with DSDT patching), and the fact that my current laptop is nearly a decade old pushed me to give it a try. I found a great deal on a Dell Latitude 3450 with i3-5005U for under $200.

Specs:

• CPU: i3-5005u
• GPU: HD 5500
• RAM: 4GB
• Audio: Realtek ALC3234 (aka ALC255)
• Wifi: Qualcomm/Atheros AR9565
• Ethernet: Realtek RTL8111
• Storage: SATA 3 SSD

I tried to do it all on my own with what knowledge I'd already acquired from my experiences with desktops. I was able to get basic functionality with little difficulty.

What I got working:

• Keyboard
• Trackpad but no 3 finger gestures and no Pref Pane
• CPU power management
• Sleep/Wake (but does not sleep when lid closes)
• HD 5500 QE/CI acceleration
• HDMI (but no HDMI audio)
• Ethernet
• Wifi (did not even need to swap out wifi card)
• USB 3
• Battery indicator
• AirPlay Mirroring (but no audio)

What I couldn't get working:

• Audio
• Sleep when lid closes
• Screen Brightness Control
• HDMI Audio
• USB 2 port
• Bluetooth

I reached this point without having to mess with DSDT at all. It just goes to show how great the Clover boot loader is. But I knew that to get the rest of the features working, I'd have to use DSDT patches. Again, I tried my best to do it on my own using all the information and guides that are out on the internet. After A LOT of reading, I was unable to overcome syntax errors when trying to compile my own DSDT. Unfortunately, I was unable to find information on what to do when encountered with these syntax errors...

I was stuck and needed to ask for help... I tried asking on my usual stomping grounds and only got a half-hearted non-answer which consisted of a link to a bunch of other links (most of which I'd already read). Eventually, I found help at www.osxlatitude.com and Jake was able to help me sort out the few remaining features that were not working.

So, how is this Dell working out as a replacement for my very old 2008 MacBook? Quite well!

To be fair, I basically just use my laptop to surf in bed when I'm too lazy to walk over to my desktop, watch the occasional video, or check usenet. Nothing very demanding at all. But these same activities would sometimes choke my old laptop and cause it to heat up and the fan to get annoyingly loud. This laptop handles all of that easily and never breaks a sweat doing it. Under normal use, the fan never spins up and I've never seen temps exceed about 120F/49C. It wasn't until I tested Handbrake and when temps hit 163F/73C that the fan finally spun up. Amazing.

My old MacBook was limited to 8GB and I often saw a good deal of memory swapping which would bring usability to its knees. I upgraded this Dell to 16GB and no more swapping!

It's not all daffodils and puffy clouds, though... While the keyboard is fine, the trackpad is far inferior to those from Apple. I lose some of the trackpad features that I'd fallen in love with such as pinch to zoom, etc. I was able to mimic some of the 3-finger gestures, but the experience just isn't as nice as on Apple laptops. If you use your laptop for lots of delicate work in Photoshop, etc. forget it. You will just be left completely frustrated. For me, though, it's something I can live with since I don't do too much with my laptop.

Secondly, the materials used in this Dell can never come close to the all aluminum construction of Apple products. I can see how this Dell would probably begin to fall apart if someone were to travel with it frequently. I don't have any confidence that it can handle rough handling.

At the end of the day, it fits my needs fine. I couldn't justify the costs of a new MacBook for my very basic needs and I didn't want to buy a older, used Mac for fear that it could lose support for macOS updates. At a total cost of $275 after upgrading RAM to 16GB, this was a great bargain. I'm still disappointed I was unable to educate myself on DSDT patching but I will keep reading...

[doublepost=1497636761][/doublepost]I bought the exact DL 3450 for $73 and changed the battery for $36, so I have it for ~$110. I did try to install Sierra in and got lot of things work before I used Multibeast for boot loader, it crashed I had to reinstall Sierra. What options did you use mainly for wifi and audio?

Thank you.

 

[MacUser2525]

[doublepost=1497636761][/doublepost]I bought the exact DL 3450 for $73 and changed the battery for $36, so I have it for ~$110. I did try to install Sierra in and got lot of things work before I used Multibeast for boot loader, it crashed I had to reinstall Sierra. What options did you use mainly for wifi and audio?

Thank you.

Seems to be dozens of instructions to be found in google search for the wifi link below to page containing many of them in one go. Second link has audio instructions although you may want to give voodoohda version 2.8.9 a go first..

http://urini.net/page/video/ar9565

http://www.dognmonkey.com/techs/how-to-patch-applehda-for-hdmi-alc255-broadwell.html

 

[pastrychef]

[doublepost=1497636761][/doublepost]I bought the exact DL 3450 for $73 and changed the battery for $36, so I have it for ~$110. I did try to install Sierra in and got lot of things work before I used Multibeast for boot loader, it crashed I had to reinstall Sierra. What options did you use mainly for wifi and audio?

Thank you.

Hi.

Wow! $110 is a fantastic deal!

You can find all the info you need to get it up and running 100% here. My Latitude 3450 came with an AR9565 wifi/bluetooth card and it worked fine, but I later updated to 802.11ac by replacing it with a Dell DW1560 (BCM94352Z) card.

Good luck!!

 

[j2ee]

I just found out overclock.net doesn't allow any hackintosh discussion lol xd

 

[fat jez]

I just found out overclock.net doesn't allow any hackintosh discussion lol xd

Technically it's probably illegal, since it's against the terms of the license agreement to install OSX on a non-Apple branded computer. Whether that is enforceable is another matter

 

[lowendlinux]

I just found out overclock.net doesn't allow any hackintosh discussion lol xd

Yes hackintosh is verboten at OCN and has been for the many years I've been there. Some of us have helped with hackintosh builds over there but it's always been through group messages.

 

[JamesPDX]

Yes, I've also read that discussing or writing about the various sites and ways of the so-called Hackintosh (which originally arose from Apple's apparent neglect of the pro-audio, pro-vfx, pro-video customers) are indeed forbidden, so don't Google it, or whatever. If you read the fine print of the DMCA and the Patriot Act, it's quite likely that operating any computing device and using it on a network is probably illegal.

 

[0989383]

If I could run OSX on this ThinkPad I would. I love the hardware, but the software can only be described as.. Windows.

Apple's hardware appeals less to me now, particularly for more cash than before.

It's the integration and ecosystem that keep me.

Hackintosh's are great but don't they break everytime an update comes out? I hope that's wrong but it was always my understanding.

 

[dogslobber]

The biggest pain running a hackintosh I found is the noise from the fans on the box and finding a workable wifi card which doesn't disconnect every 10 minutes. Quiet fans are mandatory as none of my Macs make noise but no amount of looking found fans that were deathly silent. What I found with wifi USB solutions was that they had their own custom software for renewing IP lease in Mac OS X. I hate that and they are terrible. I think it's the little things like these which made me break up my sandy bridge hackintosh 5 years ago and sell the bits individually on ebay.

 

[pastrychef]

I don't know what it was like back in the Sandy Bridge days, I only delved in to hackintoshing when Skylake was the most current... But I used Wifi/Bluetooth cards pulled from real Macs and never experienced any disconnecting. As for fans, I use Noctuas and they have been extremely quiet in my build to the point I can't hear them.

 

[navaira]

The biggest pain running a hackintosh I found is the noise from the fans on the box and finding a workable wifi card which doesn't disconnect every 10 minutes. Quiet fans are mandatory as none of my Macs make noise but no amount of looking found fans that were deathly silent. What I found with wifi USB solutions was that they had their own custom software for renewing IP lease in Mac OS X. I hate that and they are terrible. I think it's the little things like these which made me break up my sandy bridge hackintosh 5 years ago and sell the bits individually on ebay.

My Big Hac is three years old and the only problem is that it crashes eventually when put to sleep multiple times. Which is also the case when used with Windows, because Gigabyte screwed up the BIOS, then decided this particular mobo was too old and they wouldn't bother updating it. (The same happened with a newer Gigabyte board and BIOS update resolved it.)
[doublepost=1498212409][/doublepost]Oh yes, I replaced the WiFi card on board with a Broadcom one recommended on Tony's site. No problems ever.