The Hackintosh Thread

[StellarVixen]

Yes. Actually, my first run at an Open Core install on my system too. Installed on a spare/separate SSD than my main Clover based Mojave install. I've never run Catalina on this machine to compare to, but so far seems to be as smooth/stable as Mojave/Clover. Maybe even a little better... I never realized how clean an Open Core install is compared to Clover.

i7-8700K 4.8GHz OC - Auros Gaming 7 Z370 - 32GB - MSI RX 580 - Samsung 970 Evo+

Everything working great including my FireWire 800 PCIe card and 1st Gen iPod

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Good job.

I am gonna do the same, looks like it's time to say goodbye to Clover. But I'll wait when final version comes out later.

 

[d5aqoëp]

I managed to get Big Sur Beta 4 installed on Gigabyte Z490 Vision G, i5 10600, BCM94360CD Wifi + Bluetooth, Radeon RX 580 and 4K 120 Hz Acer monitor. Everything works flawlessly. I will install Big Sur final build on my Real Mac mini when it releases officially in Sept/Oct. OpenCore 0.6.1 is the way to go.
To be frank, this hack runs far far better than the latest Mac Mini and it is somewhat amusing.

 

[Jglez]

Hi,
Has anyone in this thread started to make contingency plans?

In 4 years or so when Apple drops their Intel support, I can only imagine Hackintosh will stop being a thing.

 

[pshufd]

Hi,
Has anyone in this thread started to make contingency plans?

In 4 years or so when Apple drops their Intel support, I can only imagine Hackintosh will stop being a thing.

You can just convert your Hackintosh system to Windows and buy a Mac.

I'm moving more of my applications to Windows as I have to reformat and reinstall Mojave on both of my MacBook Pros. I was RIF'd two weeks ago and my last day as an employee is tomorrow. Both of these systems have corporate security software (spyware) on them as I used them on the Corporate Network and the only way to remove them is to reformat and reinstall. I plan to run Windows and Mac together though I find myself using Windows more and more. I am dependent on iCloud Apps for a lot of things though I'm currently running them in a browser on Windows.

I would be comfortable using macOS, for about two years after end-of-Intel support.

It's always a good idea to plan ahead.

 

[robbieduncan]

You can just convert your Hackintosh system to Windows and buy a Mac.

In 4 years my Hackintosh will be 7-8 years old and will be ready to be replaced. So I’m not worried about the end of available updates really. I only built a Hackintosh as Apple didn’t make the Mac I wanted (a small-ish machine with dedicated graphics to run 2x4k screens). I have to hope they expand the range with Apple Silicon or just accept an iMac with 1-2 external displays

 

[StellarVixen]

Hi,
Has anyone in this thread started to make contingency plans?

In 4 years or so when Apple drops their Intel support, I can only imagine Hackintosh will stop being a thing.

Simple, I will use this build as long as it’s possible. Then, who knows...I might buy an actual Mac or go to Linux...who knows what my thoughts will be in 4 years.

 

[sevoneone]

Hi,
Has anyone in this thread started to make contingency plans?

In 4 years or so when Apple drops their Intel support, I can only imagine Hackintosh will stop being a thing.

I don't think there are many in the community that would say they have not been prepared for Apple putting an end to Hackintosh. If they had wanted to, there are multiple ways they could have done it over the years. I've always owned and real Mac notebook that is my main workhorse in addition to a hobby Hackintosh desktop. Though I know some who have put most of their eggs in the Hackintosh basket.

For most, their current install would continue to be a good system for a time. Those that carefully chose their components will have a solid base to convert to Windows or Linux. Lot's of Linux distros out there are slowly getting momentum too. I suspect we'll see a surge in Linux in a couple of years. There will be a group of both Hackintosh and real Mac users looking for an alternate OS when Apple ends Intel support.

I tend to think Apple will support Intel Macs for longer than they did PPC. PPC machines lost support after one OS release. Which worked out for Apple because all their users at the time had computers that could only run OS X or PPC Linux ports that were obscure to the majority of people. This time, all their users have computers that would be easy to convert into solid Windows 10 machines, and Linux is less obscure, especially for the creatives...

 

[amgff84]

Yes. Actually, my first run at an Open Core install on my system too. Installed on a spare/separate SSD than my main Clover based Mojave install. I've never run Catalina on this machine to compare to, but so far seems to be as smooth/stable as Mojave/Clover. Maybe even a little better... I never realized how clean an Open Core install is compared to Clover.

i7-8700K 4.8GHz OC - Auros Gaming 7 Z370 - 32GB - MSI RX 580 - Samsung 970 Evo+

Everything working great including my FireWire 800 PCIe card and 1st Gen iPod

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I want to do this on my Haswell i7 machine spoofed as a Mac Pro, but I think I will wait for it to mature a bit before giving it a go.

 

[amgff84]

Simple, I will use this build as long as it’s possible. Then, who knows...I might buy an actual Mac or go to Linux...who knows what my thoughts will be in 4 years.

I thought about this, and then figured I would switch everything to windows and android and completely ditch apple, including all of my apple hardware. Well, here I am again. I figure it like this; we don't know what the future holds and it's possible that other manufacturers will develop their own version of arm based machines.

 

[nathansz]

Hi,
Has anyone in this thread started to make contingency plans?

In 4 years or so when Apple drops their Intel support, I can only imagine Hackintosh will stop being a thing.

i suppose once there are no more security updates for intel macOS i’ll keep a drive running whatever the last compatible version of logic is and start migrating whatever networked stuff i do over to windows or linux or bsd

unless of course i run in to a pile of money and there’s a real mac that interests me by then

 

[pshufd]

unless of course i run in to a pile of money and there’s a real mac that interests me by then

I'll vote for the former.

 

[nigelbb]

Hi,
Has anyone in this thread started to make contingency plans?

In 4 years or so when Apple drops their Intel support, I can only imagine Hackintosh will stop being a thing.

My 2008 Mac Pro is still a very usable albeit power hungry desktop computer for general email, web, word processing etc. It was bought for FCP & Photoshop which it probably isn't up to any more now we have 4K video & 45MP stills. My 2013 15" MBP is still going great guns. I will need to do a battery replacement soon as the current battery only lasts a couple of hours now but performance-wise it does all I need. I have an i7 4790 based Hackintosh HTPC running Plex in Linux VM that plays all I throw at it. I also have a couple of HP ProDesk 400 G1 MT i3-4130 running MacOS for general office computing.

All of the above are working well today & won't stop working in four years time. Hardware failures are more likely to be what causes them to be scrapped rather than any software failings.

 

[bmoraski]

For now ill keep using my Mac Pro for music and photos etc. My Hackintosh is purely for the fun of it. I may get another SSD to throw in it to run Ubuntu 20.04. Have it running on my laptop and I'm impressed. And as others have said, worst comes to worse ill have a solid Windows/ gaming system. Im still running Mojave on it so there is still a lot of fun to have getting latest OS on it but for now im going to enjoy what I have.

 

[StellarVixen]

In case some of you didn’t know, Clover works with Big Sur now.

 

[toke lahti]

I'm kind of "done" trying to fiddle with my mini to do all things Apple does not want me to do.
So it's time to build a real computer with ability to use multiple internal storages to install "normal" windows etc.

Is there somewhere a list of motherboards witch would have the same chips than lets say 2019-2020 imac?
Same usb (is there a separate chip in imac, same ethernet, same wifi, perhaps even tb, etc...?

 

[nathansz]

I'm kind of "done" trying to fiddle with my mini to do all things Apple does not want me to do.
So it's time to build a real computer with ability to use multiple internal storages to install "normal" windows etc.

Is there somewhere a list of motherboards witch would have the same chips than lets say 2019-2020 imac?
Same usb (is there a separate chip in imac, same ethernet, same wifi, perhaps even tb, etc...?

you can use virtually any “modern” motherboard

start here:

Getting Started

 

[toke lahti]

you can use virtually any “modern” motherboard

start here:

Getting Started

I know that I can, but that's not what I want.

Well, at least there's a list of mb's for not to buy. That's a start. Not a very good one though...

 

[nathansz]

I know that I can, but that's not what I want.

Well, at least there's a list of mb's for not to buy. That's a start. Not a very good one though...

i’m not sure what you are looking for

 

[StellarVixen]

For WiFi to work like it would on real Mac, you would have to get Broadcom WiFi card.

There are TB3 motherboards out there, just look them up.

And if you don’t want to fiddle with your Mac Mini, then Hackintosh is not for you. Because with Hackintosh, fiddling will be your life. One software update could break something, and then you would have to spend hours to make it work back again.

 

[toke lahti]

Oh well, "do not buy" a mb from MSI, AsRock, Gigabyte and Asus.
Just only the 4 biggest companies in the industry?
What's left now?
EDIT: Wow, there are recommendations! Yes!

 

[nathansz]

Oh well, "do not buy" a mb from MSI, AsRock, Gigabyte and Asus.
Just only the 4 biggest companies in the industry?
What's left now?
EDIT: Wow, there are recommendations! Yes!

it’s not so much “do not buy,” but rather, “be aware of these possible issues for each board”

i use a gigabyte z390 m gaming. it works fine

 

[toke lahti]

For iGPU to work, the only choice is Z370? Still, really?

 

[nathansz]

For iGPU to work, the only choice is Z370? Still, really?

no

 

[toke lahti]

Is there any other "faster than 1G" ethernet than RTL8125, that works?
Is it Atheros 10G in mini2018?

 

[toke lahti]

no

So this is outdated?

So fun part about Coffee Lake is that Intel changed a lot in how the iGPU display out work. Specifically that macOS has no clue how to properly address them. There is a fix but requires manual BusID patches through WhateverGreen (opens new window). Main victims of this:

• Z490
• H470
• B460
• Z390
• H370
• B360
• H310

Note that Z370 is not on the list, this is because the board is basically a Z270 so Apple's video map works fine with it

Or you mean that you only need to fix it with patches?